Big Guy Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 I decided last night that I believe that the Leafs will never win another championship. What is the chance of starting a new thread for the new season and deleting this one? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
overthere Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 I decided last night that I believe that the Leafs will never win another championship. It's The Curse Of The Harold. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Michael Hardner Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 What is the chance of starting a new thread for the new season and deleting this one? Deleting ? Why ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Big Guy Posted October 10, 2014 Report Posted October 10, 2014 Deleting ? Why ? Bad idea - please ignore. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted October 10, 2014 Report Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Leafs did not look that bad against Montreal. The youngsters showed promise. Leafs will do better than the Jays this year. Edited October 10, 2014 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
PrimeNumber Posted October 10, 2014 Report Posted October 10, 2014 Leafs did not look that bad against Montreal. The youngsters showed promise. Leafs will do better than the Jays this year. Leafs will miss the playoffs by a couple of games I think. I think the Panthers will settle into that fourth spot, eight seed and nudge them leafs out of the Northeast but it will come down to a couple of games. The Panthers will of course be out in the first round. Also Detroits playoff streak ends this year. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
overthere Posted October 10, 2014 Report Posted October 10, 2014 The Oilers looked like complete crap in their first game. Same stuff as last year. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
PrimeNumber Posted October 10, 2014 Report Posted October 10, 2014 The Oilers looked like complete crap in their first game. Same stuff as last year. They need to deal some of their young players away for some playoff experienced talent. Might give them a shot at making the playoffs. Instead their hoarding all these young players and trying to develop them in a stale environment. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
overthere Posted October 11, 2014 Report Posted October 11, 2014 It is becoming very apparent that some of those 'skilled young players' are not so skilled. Their trade value diminishes all the time. The first thing the Oilers need is a completely new management team. Well, more accurately, they need to fire Lowe, MacTavish, Eakins and their entire pro and amateur scouting teams. All have failed. I would not trust any of them to make competent trades, given their clear and long record of complete failure in trades and free agent signings. I know the season has just started, but this gong show has been running a very long time. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
PrimeNumber Posted October 11, 2014 Report Posted October 11, 2014 It is becoming very apparent that some of those 'skilled young players' are not so skilled. Their trade value diminishes all the time. The first thing the Oilers need is a completely new management team. Well, more accurately, they need to fire Lowe, MacTavish, Eakins and their entire pro and amateur scouting teams. All have failed. I would not trust any of them to make competent trades, given their clear and long record of complete failure in trades and free agent signings. I know the season has just started, but this gong show has been running a very long time. Far to long. Eberle, Hall, Yakupov and the Nuge could all still fetch something on the trade market especially earlier in the season. They should be wheeling and dealing with teams in rebuilding mode that want some young guys along with their draft picks this season. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
The_Squid Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 Leaves losing badly.... goaltending sucks.... Kessel too fat... Fans are insufferable.... another losing Leaf season on the way... Lol Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 Speaking of fans... I caught a scant few minutes of opening night in Toronto. It was ghastly, but the worst of all was the EMPTY ROWS of seats in the golds. I really think that makes the team look like the rich kid's hobby horse that they are. The team puts its focus on the wealthy customers, who don't care, and they alienate legions of middle class fans. Also, in Toronto the kids don't care about hockey. In the last 5 years I heard one conversation about the Leafs at work, and it was 30-somethings not 20-somethings talking about it. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
overthere Posted October 12, 2014 Report Posted October 12, 2014 (edited) Far to long. Eberle, Hall, Yakupov and the Nuge could all still fetch something on the trade market especially earlier in the season. They should be wheeling and dealing with teams in rebuilding mode that want some young guys along with their draft picks this season. I would not trade Hall, he is easily the best of the crew and IMO the only elite player on the team. I'm not sure what has happened to Eberle, he is completely infeffective on the ice for all of last season and looks disinterested again this year. Yakupov has no hockey sense, or not what you'd expect from a #1 overall pick. His value us very limited. Nuge has great heart and skills but is miscast as a a #1 center. I'd be reluctant to trade him but he would get something in a trade. Look at the poor kid fighting last night, he did OK but he should never have to do that. The last time the Oilers had a #1 center is Doug Weight from about 15 years ago. Pathetic. The game last night was really discouraging. After getting whipped by a very poor Calgary team on opening night, the Oilers came out hard against Vancouver. The Oilers worked hard all night and still lost. Vancouver is at best an average team, and the Oilers could not beat them. I fear another 4-14 start is going to happen. There will be blood. I agree they should trade early, before the losing sets in and their value drops even more. Symbolic of how utterly shitty their management has been is their new guy Nikitin. He was the number seven(at best) defenceman on Columbus, not a great team. MacTavish traded a fifth round draft choice for him(which is worth nothing). Then he paid him $9 million for two years, a jawdropping number when the guy is worth perhaps $3 million tops for two years. Their other big signing Mark Fayne has looked awful so far. Eakins is always pumping his teams tires, he has no choice but he and MacT must be worried already. They play next in LA, so an 0-3 start is a lock. Edited October 12, 2014 by overthere Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
PrimeNumber Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 I would not trade Hall, he is easily the best of the crew and IMO the only elite player on the team. I'm not sure what has happened to Eberle, he is completely infeffective on the ice for all of last season and looks disinterested again this year. Yakupov has no hockey sense, or not what you'd expect from a #1 overall pick. His value us very limited. Nuge has great heart and skills but is miscast as a a #1 center. I'd be reluctant to trade him but he would get something in a trade. Look at the poor kid fighting last night, he did OK but he should never have to do that. The last time the Oilers had a #1 center is Doug Weight from about 15 years ago. Pathetic. The game last night was really discouraging. After getting whipped by a very poor Calgary team on opening night, the Oilers came out hard against Vancouver. The Oilers worked hard all night and still lost. Vancouver is at best an average team, and the Oilers could not beat them. I fear another 4-14 start is going to happen. There will be blood. I agree they should trade early, before the losing sets in and their value drops even more. Symbolic of how utterly shitty their management has been is their new guy Nikitin. He was the number seven(at best) defenceman on Columbus, not a great team. MacTavish traded a fifth round draft choice for him(which is worth nothing). Then he paid him $9 million for two years, a jawdropping number when the guy is worth perhaps $3 million tops for two years. Their other big signing Mark Fayne has looked awful so far. Eakins is always pumping his teams tires, he has no choice but he and MacT must be worried already. They play next in LA, so an 0-3 start is a lock. Hall could easily be the type of player you build a franchise around, the trouble is it seems everyone in the oilers organization as well as the fans are unsure on how to go about that. Eberle would be a perfect trade option to find someone to compliment Hall, he still has a lot of potential and a high trade value in my opinion. Another player that, with the right team, could blossom into an all-star. Yakupov is your stereotypical Russian player, a goal scorer. Again with the right team he could easily become a 30 goal a year guy, but I think without the right tutelage in the Oilers system nor the type of players that can make a sniper he wont become one in Edmonton and any of the teams that could build around this type of player already have this type of player. He would fit well in somewhere like Buffalo or Calgary where star power is really lacking. The Nuge is also a great trade option, he's a playmaker and with the right players he can be formidable but the trouble is the Oilers lack depth so he is forced into the #1 spot right off the bat without any time to develop. If I were in charge of the Oilers i would be trading Eberle and Yakupov, Ebs obviously wants out and Yakupov is not a fit for the team. Throw in some draft picks and take some chances with each of them in separate deals. Fasth and Scrivens are great goalies provided the team can help them win. The problem with the Oilers signing players in the off season is the current state of the team, they have to over-pay anyone to join. They need to get back to the days of being a team players want to play on and the good contracts will come. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
overthere Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 Agree with much of that. Yakupov looks like he is working harder this year. I suspect the motivation is to get himself onto a better team by showing some effort. I feel sorry for Justin Schultz. He could have signed with any team and chose the Oilers. Oops. A core problem of course is their lack of team defence. Eakins has taken them backwards. Crappy teams like Calgary have done very well by playing defence first, and letting the offence come from pressuring the other team or trapping as necessary. New Jersey has done it forever. All successful teams can play solid team defence, and the Oilers of the 1980s played it well in the playoffs. When teams press/forecheck Edmonton, they just wilt and crumble. It was obvious in the latter half of both games so far, a carryover from last year. I predict a horrible start again and he'll be gone by Xmas. And we start over with one of MacTavish/Lowe pals. Fasth and Scrivens are unproven goalies at this level. Neither has any much of a resume of work in the NHL Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Boges Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Posted October 15, 2014 Leaves losing badly.... goaltending sucks.... Kessel too fat... Fans are insufferable.... another losing Leaf season on the way... Lol Really? What a difference 2 games makes. Kessel's OT goal last night was video game quality. The goaltending controversy is tasty. I'm sure more games like that from Reimer there'll be teams lining up for his services. DaFuq is up with Gardiner v Carlyle? These two must really hate each other. Gardiner got paid and now he's riding the pine. Quote
overthere Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Getting ugly already after getting humilliated by the Kings last night. The team obviously has no idea at all how to play any form of team defence, a big problem when you rarely have the puck. Eakins needs to get his house in Edmonton on the market before it snows and buyers evaporate. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Boges Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Posted October 15, 2014 Getting ugly already after getting humilliated by the Kings last night. The team obviously has no idea at all how to play any form of team defence, a big problem when you rarely have the puck. Eakins needs to get his house in Edmonton on the market before it snows and buyers evaporate. Poor Scrivens. Quote
overthere Posted October 15, 2014 Report Posted October 15, 2014 Fasth started the game and played poorly. Scrivens was not better. He has not played well so far this year. I don't feel sorry for him, Fasth or the Oilers. The goalies both need to demonstrate they are NHL starters, and neither has done it yet. The OIlers-MacTavish- need to demonstrate they have sufficent wits to recognize and obtain quality players. Haven't done that yet, in spades. They started last year at 4-14 and were effectively eliminated by November. That may happen earlier this year, they have shown less than nothing so far. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Shady Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 Really? What a difference 2 games makes. Kessel's OT goal last night was video game quality. The goaltending controversy is tasty. I'm sure more games like that from Reimer there'll be teams lining up for his services. DaFuq is up with Gardiner v Carlyle? These two must really hate each other. Gardiner got paid and now he's riding the pine. Yep. Nothing like proclaiming a losing season 2 games in. I expect that kind of idiocy from sports talk radio. Quote
overthere Posted October 16, 2014 Report Posted October 16, 2014 Yep. Nothing like proclaiming a losing season 2 games in. I expect that kind of idiocy from sports talk radio. For the Leafs( and Oilers) proclaiming or forecasting a losing season is the default prediction. Now stating a winning season after 2 games- that takes real courage or more likely an unmedicated mental problem. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Boges Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Posted November 13, 2014 6-1 win over Boston. Plan the Parade. It'll be a dual parade with the Raptors. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 13, 2014 Report Posted November 13, 2014 I'm now having that weird feeling that I no longer have that weird feeling that hockey's back. I enjoy ruminating over these seasonal emotions... sure beats watching the games. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
BubberMiley Posted November 13, 2014 Report Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Nothing like proclaiming a losing season 2 games in. I expect that kind of idiocy from sports talk radio. How about proclaiming a winning season before it even starts? The Leafs will be making the playoffs again this year for sure. How did that turn out for you? Edited November 13, 2014 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Boges Posted November 13, 2014 Author Report Posted November 13, 2014 The way the Leafs played last year, I can't really feel confident about the Leafs chances of making the playoffs until April. At least they aren't winning by being embarrassingly outshot and getting shootout wins like last year. Quote
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