PIK Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Today ispo has harper 4 pts ahead, on the cusp of another majority.... if held today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Harper's going to be majority territory with Trudeau supporting that Anti-Terror Bill. Just watch as the Liberals bleed support to the NDP. Trudeau's proving, the saying, "meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." The Liberals yet again prove that they stand for nothing and are more interested in just telling people what they want to hear. He says the legislation is bad, but he's going to vote in favour and amend it when elected. That's nice, Justin. What happens when you don't get elected? You've now supported bad legislation. What a boneheaded move. Edited February 6, 2015 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I'm curious as to what you view as the most credible news organization in Canada? Im betting on Fox in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Harper's going to be majority territory with Trudeau supporting that Anti-Terror Bill. Just watch as the Liberals bleed support to the NDP. Trudeau's proving, the saying, "meet the new boss. Same as the old boss." The Liberals yet again prove that they stand for nothing and are more interested in just telling people what they want to hear. He says the legislation is bad, but he's going to vote in favour and amend it when elected. That's nice, Justin. What happens when you don't get elected? You've now supported bad legislation. What a boneheaded move. I agree. Though in my opinion the NDP’s stance (and the Greens) on national security is wrong, one can’t confuse it with not being both a principled and historic approach to such maters…...Trudeau has claimed his support of the anti-terror legislation was due to his belief that “maters of national security should be beyond partisanship”……… The question to be asked of Trudeau next will surely revolve around him not supporting military action against ISIS in Iraq (despite many prominent members of his party calling for such action) and where he will stand once the mission comes up for review/renewal (and quite possibly expansion in size and scope) in the next several months……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I agree. Though in my opinion the NDP’s stance (and the Greens) on national security is wrong, one can’t confuse it with not being both a principled and historic approach to such maters…...Trudeau has claimed his support of the anti-terror legislation was due to his belief that “maters of national security should be beyond partisanship”……… The question to be asked of Trudeau next will surely revolve around him not supporting military action against ISIS in Iraq (despite many prominent members of his party calling for such action) and where he will stand once the mission comes up for review/renewal (and quite possibly expansion in size and scope) in the next several months……. He'll want to send more blankets. Oh, and talk to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) From threehundredeight. Believe it or not, while pollsters were furiously surveying Albertans throughout the month of April, they also managed to conduct some 10 national and two regional federal polls, surveying over 23,000 Canadians in all. The results mark a continuation of a trend we saw last month, namely the Conservatives holding the lead as the Liberals falter. The Conservatives averaged 32.4% support in the month of April, up a bare 0.1 points since March. Removing rounding errors, this was their first outright lead since March 2013 - the month before Justin Trudeau became Liberal leader. 43% in Alberta. Was anyone saying this NDP win was trouble for Harper Edited May 11, 2015 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Conservatives leading in donations is 215 riding out of the 338. Means nothing but if the vote went that way a bigger majority. Harper and mulcair have proven to be the only ones that could lead, except toms policies is what screws him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Conservatives have always led in donations. That doesn't indicate anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Interesting - the Conservatives are leading in every region except the Atlantic and Quebec - but Quebec is really interesting because the Tories have been trending upwards and are now at 21% - not that far off the 28% Liberals and 26% NDP - and close enough to induce a few more opportunities to come up the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 If the election were tomorrow perhaps Or the numbers didn't change for the next 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Amazing CROP federal numbers for Quebec released today: NDP: 42% Libs: 25 Cons: 15 Bloc: 13 In a desperate effort to retain his Quebec city rump, Harper stumps these ridings today handing out federal funds as he goes. The prospect of a solid NDP Quebec along with the socialists new-found respectability via the Alberta election has the Conservatives running scared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 That's an 11 point gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 NDP already have most of Quebec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Amazing CROP federal numbers for Quebec released today: NDP: 42% Libs: 25 Cons: 15 Bloc: 13 In a desperate effort to retain his Quebec city rump, Harper stumps these ridings today handing out federal funds as he goes. The prospect of a solid NDP Quebec along with the socialists new-found respectability via the Alberta election has the Conservatives running scared. Wow. Liberals are taking a further beating. The NDP are fast becoming a genuine challenge to the Conservatives.....but they'll need to bleed off more Liberal voters or they will once again just end up splitting the vote on the Left. The Liberal bleeding might not stop - Trudeau's handlers know that they can't turn him loose and in doing so, he's just a punching bag for Mulcair. It'll be a really interesting election no matter who you might be cheering for.......anything could happen. Let the fun continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) I think the Liberal's decision to pick Trudeau was just what the country needed to help marginalize the mushy middle but especially the Liberal Party. My personal beef with them is the path they steered our west coast fisheries down. I'll never forgive them for it. The apparent turn of events has my interest up in a way I didn't expect it would be. I think it relates to my sense the way to demonstrate why proportional multi-party and or regional representation is better than FPTP is for the system to go at it more ideologically head on - so the swing of the political pendulum better resembles a wrecking ball that convinces Canadians there has to be a better way. Even a different way would be nice for a change. Edited May 23, 2015 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I think the Liberal's decision to pick Trudeau was just what the country needed to help marginalize the mushy middle but especially the Liberal Party. My personal beef with them is the path they steered our west coast fisheries down. I'll never forgive them for it. They did better for NL's fisheries? Just sayin'. The apparent turn of events has my interest up in a way I didn't expect it would be. I think it relates to my sense the way to demonstrate why proportional multi-party and or regional representation is better than FPTP is for the system to go at it more ideologically head on - so the swing of the political pendulum better resembles a wrecking ball that convinces Canadians there has to be a better way. Even a different way would be nice for a change. Proportional has some surface appeal, until you wind up splitting into around 10-20 parties. Then you get an "Israeli" result where a right-wing (or that matter left-wing) lead party can cobble together a coalition with some truly marginal or even dangerous types to govern. Imagine say the CPC using a lone "Rhinoceros Party" MP to round out a coalition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 We have three right-wing parties, each of them parading as middle of the road. This election is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 They did better for NL's fisheries? Just sayin'. No, and despite all that's said the point is that Canadians didn't listen too or learn from either case. Proportional has some surface appeal, until you wind up splitting into around 10-20 parties. Then you get an "Israeli" result where a right-wing (or that matter left-wing) lead party can cobble together a coalition with some truly marginal or even dangerous types to govern. Imagine say the CPC using a lone "Rhinoceros Party" MP to round out a coalition? The remedy is more autonomous regions - that are largely defined by natural bio-geophysical characteristics i.e. Vancouver Island. Watersheds and basins or water districts make the most sense around land locked areas. AFAIC our federal government should largely exist to provide the regulatory and constitutional framework that facilitates local regional governance and represent us to the rest of the planet's regions and peoples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Trudeau made far too many missteps. A lot of minor ones which mean nothing on their own, but show the kind of leader he would be. For instance, taking on Adams and Blair; outing the MPs who had sexual harassment alleged against them, despite being asked by the complainants for discretion; not committing to all of the debates. On top of this the major problem with his strategy so far is that he has far too many policies that are very similar to the CPC. With that he started to lose the progressives' trust. Then he voted to support C-51 and that will be the turning point for him. He destroyed his chances at becoming Prime Minister before the writ was even dropped. As soon as the Liberal Party voted for C-51, they cemented their fate. Trudeau, Jr. will be a footnote in political history, just like Stephane Dion. All because he demonstrated that he's both arrogant and unprincipled when he voted to support C-51. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 On top of this the major problem with his strategy so far is that he has far too many policies that are very similar to the CPC. With that he started to lose the progressives' trust. Conservatives can be counted on to put the pedal to the same metal Liberals do when they assume power. Again, fisheries policies and disasters on both coasts are the most graphic local and national example I can come up with. Then he voted to support C-51 and that will be the turning point for him. Well we're talking about expanding a dictators tool-kit here. I'm pretty sure support for this would have flowed down through any leader the Liberals put forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 They did better for NL's fisheries? Just sayin'.No, and despite all that's said the point is that Canadians didn't listen too or learn from either case.I think Chretien was playing to being a compassionate internationalist rather than pushing the best interests of Canadians with regard to fisheries' policy. Proportional has some surface appeal, until you wind up splitting into around 10-20 parties. Then you get an "Israeli" result where a right-wing (or that matter left-wing) lead party can cobble together a coalition with some truly marginal or even dangerous types to govern. Imagine say the CPC using a lone "Rhinoceros Party" MP to round out a coalition?The remedy is more autonomous regions - that are largely defined by natural bio-geophysical characteristics i.e. Vancouver Island. Watersheds and basins or water districts make the most sense around land locked areas.I'm not sure what devolution to local areas has to do with how you elect a national government, i.e. FPTP v. rep-by-prop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 From threehundredeight. 43% in Alberta. Was anyone saying this NDP win was trouble for Harper Looking at the trend ... Yes. Since February: The federal Conservatives still hold the lead in the province with 44 per cent support, according to ThreeHundredEight.com's poll aggregation methodology. The New Democrats follow in second with 24 per cent support, with the Liberals in third at 22 per cent and the Greens bringing up the rear at 6 per cent. But that represents a significant shift in fortunes over the last three months. Since the beginning of February, the Conservatives have dropped 11 points and the Liberals three, while the NDP have doubled their support from 12 per cent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 This is actually one of the most dramatic shifts there's been in the polls for a long time. Whether it's sustainable or not is yet to be seen. One thing is for certain, if you look at past polling, the campaign actually determines the winner. You can see voter intentions changing over the writ periods just about every time. So people generally pay attention to the campaigns, as opposed to the microcosm of voters we have on this forum who have picked sides and dug their heels in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 308 aggregate polling: June 29th projection... inclusive of polling to June 23rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Wow that's crazy. I wonder if the NDP can hold that lead through a campaign. Is this it for JT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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