Topaz Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The Tories are spending 4 million of taxpayers money on advertising the upcoming budget. Why? Because the Feds and opposition parties can't spend more than 20 million in total during an election but there's no limit outside of an official election campaign. The Fed's aren't allowed advertising during an election, there's no limit as how much govt can spend outside of a campaign. Last year, the Tories spend 85 million in advertising like the action plan. At the end of thefollowing article there are 535 comments from Canadians and most do not like this spending. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/opposition-questions-tories-4-million-ad-blitz-to-promote-budget/article1936067/ Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The Liberals stole $500 million from the taxpayer of Canada to advertise. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The Liberals stole $500 million from the taxpayer of Canada to advertise. $500 Million. Quote
Moonbox Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 While I can't say I'm excited that they've spent so much money, I can say this is pretty small potatoes and it's not something people really care about. Topaz you really need to choose your battles better. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
William Ashley Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) The Liberals stole $500 million from the taxpayer of Canada to advertise. ok how does that eliminate what The consevative party of Canada has done - to ADVERTISE a budget that hasn't even been approved. This isn't governmental... it is political. They are trying to sway a vote in the commons through government funding - of THEIR party's policy.. it is partisan party advertising. The budget has not been approved and they are already paying to advertise it with government funds NOT party funds. It is clearly corrupt. The government of Canada isn't even being advertised as such anymore, it is being advertised as THE HARPER GOVERNMENT. So in government of canada advertising now you have PAID FOR BY THE HARPER GOVERNMENT IT IS CORRUPT! and the ads are for the party... NOT THE GOVERNMENT but being paid for with government funds. IT IS CORRUPT! Understand this isn't advertising for a parliamentary approved program.. it is funds to sway public opinion to a plan a specific party has and the other parties don't support. IT IS CORRUPTION. I'm pretty sure using government funds to influence members of parliament to vote a particular way is ILLEGAL! The Conservative Party is using public funds to influence a vote in parliament... CORRUPT AND ILLEGAL! THIS IS ABOUT RIGHT NOW what is happening RIGHT NOW, what corruption is happening RIGHT NOW. WHAT CRIMINALS ARE SQUANDERING TAX DOLLARS FOR ILLEGAL PURPOSES. coonservatives. Whether crooked liberals or theiving coons GET RID OF THE CROOKS. HARPER IS THE RING MASTER and a real clown a squirley sort of clown. NO MORE COONSERVATIVES! out the coons http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/56632/56632,1220638388,2/stock-vector-a-vector-illustration-of-a-cartoony-raccoon-dressed-as-a-clown-16995442.jpg WHY PAY TO ADVERTISE SOMETHING THAT 1. DOESN'T EXIST, AND ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN? SOUNDS LIKE A WASTE OF MONEY TO ME. Also why advertise a budget? Why pay to tell people how you are spending their money when you have something called the internet and the ability to have a page SPENT.GC.CA with a line for line expenditure and link of the reason for each expenditue right in one easy place rather than spending millions to say howthe millions were spent.. it is a bit of an abyss. If the coons were allowed to use governmetn funds to advertise their policies and program wish list.. it isn't right.. it is stealing money for yourself. It is like using department funds to pay for your vacations ... IT AIN'T RIGHT.. it is illegal. The conservative party is breaking the law by using government funds for party advertising The way they are doing things... it makes sense that a tough on crime strategy would be to make the party membership perpetual contestants in UFC tourney's and have them banned from politics. at this rate look out for HG.GC.CA and CPC.GC.CA (The Canadian Police College (CPC) is housed here but I'm sure they wouldn't be against chainging the name. or canada's petitioning iana for a new domain .hg (for people in line with the harper government in canada) hg.ca Edited March 10, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
Moonlight Graham Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Every major political party in this country is steaming pile of crap. It sure would be nice if time in the House could be spent debating issues to improve Canadian lives, rather than being spent holding the government to account with scandal after scandal. The CPC, like the Liberals before them, are a bunch of corrupt & greedy scum. Why do we have to keep making laws plugging up loop-holes so that politicians/parties don't take advantage of them even when they should know that abusing them is clearly wrong? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
eyeball Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) Every major political party in this country is steaming pile of crap. Why do we have to keep making laws plugging up loop-holes so that politicians/parties don't take advantage of them even when they should know that abusing them is clearly wrong? What plugs, and who's this we you're talking about? It seems the Speaker of the House is the only Canadian in any kind of position to do anything about the state of affairs in Parliament. That seems like an awfully thin line of defence. Edited March 10, 2011 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Shakeyhands Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The Liberals stole $500 million from the taxpayer of Canada to advertise. The Liberals did not, a couple ex-members of the Quebec Liberal wing did. Please stop your lies. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
M.Dancer Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The Liberals did not, a couple ex-members of the Quebec Liberal wing did. Please stop your lies. The weren't ex members at the time.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Saipan Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The Fed's aren't allowed advertising during an election While Liberals used taxpayer supported CBC to invite AMERICANS, just before federal elections, to tell us who vote for. Which should be clearly illegal. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 The weren't ex members at the time.... Fine. The Liberals did not, a couplemembers of the Quebec Liberal wing did and they have since been kicked out of the Quebec Wing... Better? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
M.Dancer Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Fine. The Liberals did not, a couplemembers of the Quebec Liberal wing did and they have since been kicked out of the Quebec Wing... Better? Oh much..but certainly it involved more than a couple... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shady Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 I agree that tax dollars shouldn't go into political advertising. That's why I agreed with the Tories attempt to end the tax payer funding for the parties. Unfortunately, the other parties didn't agree, and sought to bring down the government over it. So we're still stuck with the same system. It seems to me, that the very people complaining about these expenditures, are the very people supporting political parties that seek to continue these tax dollar handouts. You can't have it both ways. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) I agree that tax dollars shouldn't go into political advertising. That's why I agreed with the Tories attempt to end the tax payer funding for the parties. Apples and oranges. I have no problem with $2 of my tax dollars going to the party that I vote for. Makes for a strong democratic system. Edited March 10, 2011 by Shakeyhands Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Black Dog Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 I agree that tax dollars shouldn't go into political advertising. That's why I agreed with the Tories attempt to end the tax payer funding for the parties. Unfortunately, the other parties didn't agree, and sought to bring down the government over it. So we're still stuck with the same system. It seems to me, that the very people complaining about these expenditures, are the very people supporting political parties that seek to continue these tax dollar handouts. You can't have it both ways. Complete Nonsense . The money for the parties does not necessarily go into communications (indeed, the taxpayer spend for the subsidy program wouldn't even cover the cost of the Tories latest ad blitz). If you want to ban taxpayer-funded ads, ban taxpayer funded ads. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Apples and oranges. I have no problem with $2 of my tax dollars going to the party that I vote for. Makes for a strong democratic system. Well I have a problem with $2 of my tax money going to the party I vote for. I want my refund Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shady Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 If you want to ban taxpayer-funded ads, ban taxpayer funded ads. That's fine with me. Quote
Battletoads Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Well I have a problem with $2 of my tax money going to the party I vote for. I want my refund Theres a simple way to avoid funding any party, don't vote for them. Quote "You can lead a Conservative to knowledge, but you can't make him think."
Mr.Canada Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 It's hard to believe that the Liberal Party of Canada is s till having a sense of entitlement. Even after stealing $500 million and giving to their Qc friends their sense of entitlement is still strong as is their arrogance. The Ignatieff Liberals still look at themselves as Canada's Natural Governing Party. The arrogance doesn't get much worse then that. The Ignatieff Liberals don't think any other party should lead Canada and that any other party is just a caretaker government. The air of arrogance is continued in the former Harvard Professor they call Ignatieff. A former Harvard Professor, who lives in a Chalet in France, in Ignatieff and A Rhodes Scholar in Bob Rae and these Liberals still cannot get it together. Don't worry they are Canada's Natural Governing Party. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Molly Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 Refusing to vote for them, though, doesn't put all those tax credits for political donations back into general revenues. I don't have a problem with the $2/vote, but it bugs the heck out of me that I, as a taxpayer, am forced to cough up cash to refund other folks' political donations. Bad enough we do it for individual candidates at election time! Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Saipan Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 I want all my money that went to CBC refunded. I never voted for them. Quote
Moonbox Posted March 10, 2011 Report Posted March 10, 2011 I want all my money that went to CBC refunded. I never voted for them. ditto to that. I'd also like all my money back for 'arts' funding. I'd like my money back for transfer payments too. alas, our system wasn't designed to be fair. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Smallc Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) It's hard to believe that the Liberal Party of Canada is s till having a sense of entitlement. Even after stealing $500 million Where do you keep pulling that number from? Edited March 11, 2011 by Smallc Quote
Wilber Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Unfortunately, it's what governments do. That is one of the perks of being in power, you get to spend public funds to campaign under the guise of "informing the public" It's bullshit, they all criticize it when they are not in power yet they all do it if they gain power. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Topaz Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 What I got from this was the Tories can't do an "in and out" scheme this time around, so they are jumping the gun and using our taxpayers to advertise what they have done for the country. They cheated the other parties in 2006 by overspending 1.3 million in adveristing and that money was carried over to 2008 election. Quote
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