British Petroleum....had better cough up the cash!

[punked]

They ARE drilling a relief well. But it takes time to dig that far, that deep. Unfortunately you can't just snap your fingers and have it done.

That isn't what you and Sara were saying a year ago. You kept yelling "drill here drill now it is safe noting will ever happen!"

[Shady]

That isn't what you and Sara were saying a year ago. You kept yelling "drill here drill now it is safe noting will ever happen!"

Yes, Sarah and I, during our joint campaign appearances both specifically stated that nothing bad will ever happen, ever!

[punked]

Yes, Sarah and I, during our joint campaign appearances both specifically stated that nothing bad will ever happen, ever!

So you were wrong with Drill here Drill now, fast track off shore drilling, and regulate less. Wow Shady you get more left wing by the day now.

[Shady]

So you were wrong with Drill here Drill now, fast track off shore drilling, and regulate less. Wow Shady you get more left wing by the day now.

Nope. We still need to be drilling. Unfortunately though, the environmentalist wackos have made it very difficult to drill on land, and even close to shore. So they push people out very far, to very deep water, where it's much more difficult to extract resources. And then they have the nerve to complain when there's an accident.

[punked]

Nope. We still need to be drilling. Unfortunately though, the environmentalist wackos have made it very difficult to drill on land, and even close to shore. So they push people out very far, to very deep water, where it's much more difficult to extract resources. And then they have the nerve to complain when there's an accident.

Yah it is hard to drill on land. Give me a break Shady I like how you make it up as you go along. Infact it was so hard that the US drilled 25000 wells on land alone. Seriously Shady.

[waldo]

... so we're waiting to see if BP's top kill shot works later today - pumping heavy drilling mud down the ruptured well at high pressure so that the mud will overcome the flow of oil and gas coming up the well, and ultimately "kill" it... something that's never been attempted at this 5000 feet below the surface depth. When BP itself offers up only a 60% probability of success likelihood...

so, what then? Why then it seems the best solution being offered up is to spend the next 3 months drilling relief wells to divert the flow, hoping the pressure drops to allow the leak to be sealed. Of course, during that period, tens of millions more barrels of crude continue to stream into the Gulf.

and... we're into the heart of hurricane season! Beauty. Hurricane Could Spread Gulf Spill Far and Wide

What will happen to the oil if a powerful cyclone enters the Gulf?

Experts say it could accelerate the spread of oil far and wide.

"It will be everywhere in the Gulf and East Coast of the U.S.," said oceanographer Peter Niiler of the University of California at San Diego.

Niiler is not speculating. He has studied the way ocean currents and winds moved hundreds of "drifter" buoys around the Gulf. In the drifters' 90-day lifespan, he has seen them scatter to all parts of the Gulf with the help of a tropical storm with 40-knot winds.

Some drifters were found as far west as Texas and others were caught in the Loop Current that carries Gulf water out and around to the East Coast of North America.

What's more, said Niiler, there's no evidence that oil will be diluted by the time it reaches the East Coast.

"We see Mississippi water in the Loop Current all the way to Cape Cod," said Niiler. "It's not mixed up."

And neither will any oil slicks that are sucked into the Loop, he said, unless there is something causing the water to mix, like a hurricane. A powerful hurricane can cause the ocean waters to mix down to 150 meters.

As for what an oil slick will do in a hurricane, it will surely cease to exist as a discreet layer on top of the water, said Kevin Trenberth, climate scientist for the National Center for Atmospheric Research.

That's because during the worst of a hurricane the ocean surface itself ceases to exist and becomes a continuum with the sky.

Rather that staying on the surface, the oil would be mixed with waters as deep as 150 meters down, said Trenberth. What happens after that is anyone's guess.

[BubberMiley]

So they push people out very far, to very deep water, where it's much more difficult to extract resources. And then they have the nerve to complain when there's an accident.

Deepwater drilling only exists because they've depleted resources closer to shore.

I can provide a source that explains this in remedial terms for you. http://www.cfr.org/publication/22204/us_deepwater_drillings_future.html

Now, provide your "making it up as you go along" source that says environmentalists forced them into deep water.

But I do find it curious that someone who lives next to the former cesspool of Lake Erie would be opposed to environmentalism. You should be thanking your lucky stars that environmentalists saved your home from its former status of toxic waste dump.

But I guess if I lived in London, I wouldn't feel I have much to be thankful for either.

Edited May 26, 2010 by BubberMiley

[Oleg Bach]

Head office for most relevant Anglo corporate entities is London England. You will notice that the American congress seems devided. The insiders are about to clash with the outsiders - Obama the lacky henchmen for corporate socialism is out doing a fund rasier...and if you have not noticed, he is pretty docile when it comes to insulting his corporate bosses and the boys in merry old England.

Some of you here describe me as some sort of lunitic that does not fully understand internationalist corporate culture or political power structures in general - well it seems this old "rube" is not far of the mark when he dares to say...The Queen and the royal corporation still rule America - and when I said that organized crime rules the world I was not far off either. Also that "evil is stupidity" - seems to fit quite nicely at this point.

The American anglo insiders understand that money and control of energy rule - even if you are an idiot. The way things work is simple - you have the oldest corporations on earth - one - Islam - and it's oil wealth - and the other _ The old Church of England - where the hording of wealth over the last 600 years has generated a corporate structure bathed in secrecy and tacit agreements.

You will not see much resistance from the American government when it comes to British Petroleum - they are the real government along with the multitude of other connecting companies that number in the thousands - as I watched a Canadian company absorb about 30 companies a month..over a period of 30 years - well that has become Canada Inc . Much like AMERICA - is not AMERICA INCORPORATED - AND if people like our Bush Cheney actually think that the AMERICAN REVOLUTION really took place in full they are wrong - the buisness ties between Britian - and the American National Family of corporates continued to this day....

AS for the ROYAL CORPORATION - That now has embarrassed itself - and become tainted like white trash..well - between one of the kids dressing up like a Nazi - and a former wife doing a reverse extoration while chain smoking and drinking wine - it does not look good. The poor old QUEEN who I am thankful to for granting my parents santuary - I am truely thankful to this day and loyal to her Majesty - But power does not last for ever and genetics can play cruel jokes on the decendants...It is not carved in stone and gold that true nobilty can or will be passed down..so in the short of it - Corporations run the world and jokes like Obama and Harper - will just to a theatrical dance to please the masses as the fish basket of north AMERICA is destroyed.

This mess if of biblical proportion - if the core of North AMERICA is the bread basket - well - the gulf is the fish basket.. IF the church of England had kept the contract...and remembered that when CHRIST fed the masses...the fish and the bread - it was a miracle - that all those with food under their cloaks broke open their personal wealth and shared..because - real corporate socialism was Christianity - for all to contribute to the common purse and for all contributors to come and take as needed - apparently someone breached the contract that formed the western world and brought us all common wealth - MAN CAN NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE - protein that comes from the gulf keeps people bright and smart - a loss of protein - will bring us all into a state of stupidity and make us a third world nation...God save the Queen - the rest of the bastards can perish in their contempt for nature. WHEN one forgets nature and injures her..she will slap your face and cause a nose bleed that is the blackest of blood..

BP underestimated nature and human nature.

[dre]

Nope. We still need to be drilling. Unfortunately though, the environmentalist wackos have made it very difficult to drill on land, and even close to shore. So they push people out very far, to very deep water, where it's much more difficult to extract resources. And then they have the nerve to complain when there's an accident.

This is bogus on quite a few different levels.

First of all... you dont really need to be drilling. Domestic US production is tiny in a global oil market and has almost no effect on prices. All it contributes is money for oil companies. There no oil shortage with or without US production.

Secondly your claim that environmentalists pushed oil companies offshore is utterly hilarious. Environmentalists are oppose to offshore drilling because of this exact kind of risk, and they were demanding that oil companies develope the sixty million acres worth of land based oil leases they ALREADY HAVE before they were given any offshore permits.

[bush_cheney2004]

First of all... you dont really need to be drilling. Domestic US production is tiny in a global oil market and has almost no effect on prices. All it contributes is money for oil companies. There no oil shortage with or without US production.

Oh yes there is...the USA is a major producer of crude and refined distillates. Canada can't even refine all of its own oil.

1 Saudi Arabia 10,782 kbpd

2 Russia 9,790

3 United States 8,514

4 Iran 4,174

5 China 3,973

6 Canada 3,350

7 Mexico 3,186

Edited May 27, 2010 by bush_cheney2004

[dre]

Oh yes there is...the USA is a major producer of crude and refined distillates. Canada can't even refine all of its own oil.

1 Saudi Arabia 10,782 kbpd

2 Russia 9,790

3 United States 8,514

4 Iran 4,174

5 China 3,973

6 Canada 3,350

7 Mexico 3,186

The US accounts for less than 10% of oil production and has less than 2.2% of proven oil reserves. US domestic production has little impact on global prices.

[Smallc]

dre, that's completely false. US production is more important than that of most other nations. The problem with US production is that it's unsustainable.

[bush_cheney2004]

The US accounts for less than 10% of oil production and has less than 2.2% of proven oil reserves. US domestic production has little impact on global prices.

10% of world production is huge for a market that demands over 80 million bpd. US domestic production does impact global prices, as does US consumption. After hurricane Katrina, Canadians and Americans were crying the blues about sky high gasoline prices when production and refineries were impacted.

[GostHacked]

Well it's official, it's now worse than the Exxon Valdez spill.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/27/gulf.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=T1

Worst spill in US history. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

The burst well is spewing oil at a rate of at least 12,000 to 19,000 barrels a day, U.S. Geological Survey Director Marcia McNutt told reporters Thursday.

So much for the long standing 5000 barrels a day spilling out.

[bush_cheney2004]

Worst spill in US history. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

It is getting worse...for Obama!

So much for the long standing 5000 barrels a day spilling out.

This is good news...lots more oil where that came from. Drill Baby Drill!!!!!

[GostHacked]

It is getting worse...for Obama!

As long as Obama's image is tarnished, it does not matter how many lives are affected by the disaster. Won't bring back the 11 people who died when the rig blew up. I still think it's all Bush's fault anyways.

This is good news...lots more oil where that came from. Drill Baby Drill!!!!!

Can't drill anymore, that has apparently been stopped.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7769918/Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-US-suspends-drilling-in-Arctic-Ocean.html

I suspect that's not the only project that will be suspended.

[Oleg Bach]

As long as Obama's image is tarnished, it does not matter how many lives are affected by the disaster. Won't bring back the 11 people who died when the rig blew up. I still think it's all Bush's fault anyways.

Can't drill anymore, that has apparently been stopped.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7769918/Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-US-suspends-drilling-in-Arctic-Ocean.html

I suspect that's not the only project that will be suspended.

There are thousands of wells in the Gulf of Mexico - and ALL will spring leaks in time..It might be ten years - 50 years or 500 years but all of them will spill upwards into the sea. Oil was never meant to become a religion nor was it ever meant to be some sort way of life perminently. It is like a house designed for ten people that has ten people all burning their own private camp fire in the hut - we are in a closed inviron..AND lets get this straight - there is no nature movement or understanding of preservation of nature - The average person thinks that environmentalism is picking up the plastic lid off of some hot city pavement - we are totally out of touch with the natural world.

And the average puppy dog loving liberal is overly stimulated by visions of talking Disney animals and really does not understand what animals or vegitation is.. A CNN female reporter looked at a Dolphin in distress - and said "Is that dolphin going to die?" - what an idiot! It's the baby seal big puppy eyed emotional nut bars that devert the truth - It is not going to be the Disney character that is going to perish - but ten trillion shrimp..billions upon billions of fish..microscopic life that is immeasurable - and so on - Life it self is being destroyed on a scale that has never been seen before - as the senators smile - and OBAMA...takes glee in the destruction of America - we sit and think that all is well - Hell is coming.

[Oleg Bach]

Gee, I wonder if the gas prices will go up again because of the oil spill, we all know it doesn`t take much for a reason for them to do it!!

The vice and viciousness that is big oil is thriving..and blossoming - to make big money you have to be ready to harm the masses - the oil disater will harm millions of people - and powerful people including minor share holders love to hurt - money is power and with that power comes a type of sadism - which we see now - stock prices are up - people are hurting and the corporates are full of rapturous glee.

[Oleg Bach]

Let me give you a word of advice on how the power mind works - the more you weep and suffer - the stronger they get> Show them nothing - do not shed a tear of distress nor seek sympathy..Like vampires..the feed on sadness - emotion and fear - GIVE THE FU*KERS NOTHING!

[Oleg Bach]

As the traditional fisherman and woman cry out "How will we surive" - the creeps watch and like a torturing lunitic - the more you weep the harder they strike.

[BubberMiley]

Nope. We still need to be drilling. Unfortunately though, the environmentalist wackos have made it very difficult to drill on land, and even close to shore. So they push people out very far, to very deep water, where it's much more difficult to extract resources. And then they have the nerve to complain when there's an accident.

Still haven't found a shred of evidence to back up this claim?

Sorry, I just love rubbing your nose in your lies. I don't have a dog that pees on the carpet anymore, so I have to compensate somehow.

[GostHacked]

SPILL BABY SPILL !!!!

[Oleg Bach]

SPILL BABY SPILL !!!!

You are funny, It's like the super powerful who wage war...it does not matter who gets killed as long as it is somebody.Makes them feel powerful - and relevant..when my oldest daughter used to go to raves, it was not an important event unless some one over dozed and died on the dance floor.

Lets get down to "dispersants"- you make the oil sink in little blobs..great! It does not go away- it is just swept under the carpet.. BP do not love us- Obama is a weasil and puppet- who does not love us...and the poor QUEEN never thought that it would end this way. Like a bad spell cast out of the book of Revelations.

We have an international leadership that are idiots and lunitics - not to mention the head of bp looking like even a more inbred version of Prince Charley. The invironists are stupid- they know nothing of nature- an environ can also be any thing that envelopes a living creature- it could be shit or cement.

Growning up with mud between my toes I knew God with out a church..I knew nature. As for the mud being pumped down--they only brought one ship load--trying to save a buck I suppose- so the pump down shut down because some executive crunched some numbers and found out that he might lose a million bucks- heaven forbid------------one thing I know for sure is that the rich are impoverished in spirit--" blessed are the poor in spirit" they need the blessing..now for another sip of gin and walk those useless dogs...but- nature needs our stewardship- PB and Obama know nothing of stewardship or nature------------THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

[Oleg Bach]

Me drinking is a bad idea..munching down on a chunk of un-popped pop corn caused me to break a tooth...so pissed off at myself for seeking peace in booze. Perhaps power and wealth bring on horrible judgement through the intoxication effects of greed - Oil merchants have displaced noble thought - imagine- the merchant class drunk on money now rule the world..merchants - not thinkers - not spiritual people not natural environmentalists..and certainly not anyone who is in a firm state of reality, knowing that if you do not take care of nature (by the way people are also nature) - nature will destroy you..This nightmare in the gulf has demonstrated that our elected and un-elected officals...do not serve the people...SO why are they there?

[Oleg Bach]

As per usual..I will answer my own question - These in authorship of our present and future..simply use us like a herd of cattle to be milked till we are weak in the knees and collapse - then they will justify our demise through some sort of social and economical Darwinism. Might be time to stop feeding the little monsters? Contracts are supposed to run both ways and generate common wealth and mutual co-operation - I believe that PB and others have breached their contract with the common person and most of it's share holders..from here on in..it will be up to them to make the moral repairs. As mentioned to a friend of mine _ Our sytem has become so complex that it is totally unmanageable..we need some black and white here - right and wrong must be re-established as a base principle.