Machjo Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 With all the discussion now about changing the words to the national anthem, why not just de-officialize it and let the people decide which anthem to sing. besides, God save the Queen is not official in the UK, nor is Du Gamla Du Frieden, the unofficial but universally accepted Swedish official anthem, etc. Why should politicians waste time on issues that the general public could settle on its own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 This seems like a stupid make-work project to me but I'm rather indifferent either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 This seems like a stupid make-work project to me but I'm rather indifferent either way. How would this be a make-work project? It would take five minutes and it's done unlike spending months of debate over whether we should change it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 What discussions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 How would this be a make-work project? It would take five minutes and it's done unlike spending months of debate over whether we should change it or not. Nothing takes five minutes in parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Why should politicians waste time on issues that the general public could settle on its own? Why look into an issue that's already been settled? O Canada is our anthem, and even if they change the words slightly, it will still be our anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) Why look into an issue that's already been settled? O Canada is our anthem, and even if they change the words slightly, it will still be our anthem. If we are so interested historical symbols and returning to earlier versions why not change the flag back to the Canadian Red Ensign? My My things are getting silly. Edited March 4, 2010 by Alta4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Why? The Canadian flag is better. There is talk about changing Manitoba's flag. I might support that. The Flag isn't an old symbol, and the anthem is even younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Why? The Canadian flag is better. There is talk about changing Manitoba's flag. I might support that. The Flag isn't an old symbol, and the anthem is even younger. I was being facetious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 With all the discussion now about changing the words to the national anthem, why not just de-officialize it and let the people decide which anthem to sing. besides, God save the Queen is not official in the UK, nor is Du Gamla Du Frieden, the unofficial but universally accepted Swedish official anthem, etc. Why should politicians waste time on issues that the general public could settle on its own? EXACTLY! This issue is settled in my mind and yours and everybody elses..so to de-settle it is causing trouble that does not exist- what's next...some silly notion of marrying the dog..or maybe another man? Oh- they did that one already- that was settled before it started..and nothing changed- people are going to do what they wish and sing what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Also- by de-officializing the anthem-- it takes it out of governmental hands and puts it into the real governments hands THE PEOPLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I was being facetious. gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Nothing takes five minutes in parliament. I say giving themselves a raise comes close! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Are there anthem police that go about fining people for singing unofficial words? It seems to me that people can continue to sing what they like. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 With all the discussion now about changing the words to the national anthem, why not just de-officialize it and let the people decide which anthem to sing. besides, God save the Queen is not official in the UK, nor is Du Gamla Du Frieden, the unofficial but universally accepted Swedish official anthem, etc. Why should politicians waste time on issues that the general public could settle on its own? To distract us, and for purposes of higher political strategy, obviously. Of course, it could be that Harper has been concerned about the non-gender-neutral lyrics of the national anthem since he attended Richview Collegiate high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 this most telling attempt to deflect from questions related to the budget... to the detainee documents, is a dead failed Harper initiative: National anthem won't change: PMO We offered to hear from Canadians on this issue and they have already spoken loud and clear. They overwhelmingly do not want to open the issue," said Dimitri Soudas, a spokesman for the Prime Minister's Office. "The government will not proceed any further to change our national anthem apparently, all is not well with Conservative Senator, Nancy Ruth - described as having prompted Harper for the proposed changes to the anthem wording... If there's been such backlash, then this is another example, for me, of hatred against women Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Nancy Ruth - Conservative Senator said:If there's been such backlash, then this is another example, for me, of hatred against women On the other hand Ms Ruth, perhaps folks just don't want politicians continually dicking around with their anthem. Could be nothing more ominous than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted March 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 And look how all those PC Brits ruined god Save the Queen/King by tampering with and removing such wonderful verses as: Lord, grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush, and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God save the King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xul Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 this most telling attempt to deflect from questions related to the budget... The conservative boss's ability on election is far better than Wilber thinks....even better than his ability on economy IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 And look how all those PC Brits ruined god Save the Queen/King by tampering with and removing such wonderful verses as: Lord, grant that Marshal Wade, May by thy mighty aid, Victory bring. May he sedition hush, and like a torrent rush, Rebellious Scots to crush, God save the King. That verse was just and add on during the Jacobite rebellion and became redundant after the Scots were crushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted March 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 That verse was just and add on during the Jacobite rebellion and became redundant after the Scots were crushed. Adding to the national anthem? Oh my, how sacrilegious. Just look at those traitors. Muir wasn't satisfied enough with God Save the Queen. Oh no, he had to go out of his way and compose the Mapleleaf forever, 'cause God save the Queen just wasn't good enough for him. ANd then Weir had to come along and compose Oh Canada 'cause he thought the Mapleleaf Forever just wasn't good enough for him either. Innovation and creation, what terrible things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Adding to the national anthem? Oh my, how sacrilegious. Just look at those traitors. Muir wasn't satisfied enough with God Save the Queen. Oh no, he had to go out of his way and compose the Mapleleaf forever, 'cause God save the Queen just wasn't good enough for him. ANd then Weir had to come along and compose Oh Canada 'cause he thought the Mapleleaf Forever just wasn't good enough for him either. Innovation and creation, what terrible things. I guess anyone could compose an add on verse to Oh Canada that was based on some current event that caught the publics attention but that wouldn't make it part of the anthem. You could write a proroguing verse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Too bad all the problems the government creates can disappear as fast as this one. A journalist from B.C. says it best in his editorial. http://www.westislandchronicle.com/article-437994-Harper-Flipped-And-then-he-Flopped.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 The nasty public response was overwhelming. Worse still. Those most angry were people the polls tell us usually support the Harper Conservative Party - old white men, traditionalists, people who don’t like change. Oh I'm pretty sure there's at least a few angry old white broads amongst Harper's Conservative Party who fear and loath change too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupeii Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 (edited) With all the discussion now about changing the words to the national anthem, why not just de-officialize it and let the people decide which anthem to sing. besides, God save the Queen is not official in the UK, nor is Du Gamla Du Frieden, the unofficial but universally accepted Swedish official anthem, etc. Why should politicians waste time on issues that the general public could settle on its own? Why not deofficialize the flag and let people decide what to fly. NEWS FLASH YOU DON'T NEED TO SING THE ANTHEM, its a free world. Only cultists are obliged to follow cult behaviour. It is that type of behaviour that ruins the free world. Cultists, we don't need more cultists. You don't like it, don't sing it. You favour Eric Clapton, or Celine Dione instead? Who cares. The song sucks.Who in their right mind would make lyrics that sound like "we stand on god for thee" in a Christian nation? It is so slow and way to long. The only good use of the thing was station turn offs which helped you go to sleep. You want a free nation - start by ending the cult. Atleast take in perspective, maybe you don't want to hear people sign something if they can't sing. Don't feel obligated. The only reprive is that it ain't the star spangled banner. No offence to americans, but what key is that thing written in? Personally I find worshiping flags and songs just a little weird, and if it wern't backed by people with guns, I think most of you would agree. You don't have to be part of the cult - you have a choice in freedom. Edited March 7, 2010 by groupeii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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