August1991 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) Funky! But Greg, simplicity with style will always win. After all, Maple Leaf Forum amounts to a bunch of people chatting, before the general public, with easy access/links to previous comments and to basic facts. IMV, Internet forum software is a work in progress. I suspect that funky/glitz will fall by the wayside. ---- My first reaction is a thumb's down. Why? To pick an old example, an Internet forum should be like a local pub. I stop in and have a chat. To modernize my example, it helps if the chat is easy to join again, regardless of when I left. And there's something else: It's not clear that this pub conversation is recorded, and available to anyone on the planet. As I say, IMV, this upgrade is merely funky/glitz and Internet Forum software is a work in progress. I'm curious to see where this leads. PS. Internet "newspaper" comments may kill Internet forums such as Maple Leaf Forum. Why post here when I can post on the G&M comment sections? Edited November 6, 2009 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 PS. Internet "newspaper" comments may kill Internet forums such as Maple Leaf Forum. Why post here when I can post on the G&M comment sections? Well, to quote a wise man... My first reaction is a thumb's down. Why? To pick an old example, an Internet forum should be like a local pub. I stop in and have a chat. People who drop by their local pub to chat with the regulars aren't the sort of people who'd find the comments section at the bottom of a G&M story to their liking. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 On the previous version, we had a menu selection with assistant and such. Will that come back or is it just me and I can'd locate it? Also, I can't seem to get to my personal messages section. Ok, it popped up this time, must have been a glitch with the personal messages, however, my inquiry about the assistant remains. I don't have that menu thing, with personal assistant, and can't send PMs. If I click on the PM box the whole screen goes gray and nothing happens thereafter until i refresh. And btw, what does adding someone as a friend mean or do? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I miss the personal assistant too, especially the 'view my last posts' function. Clicking on the multi-quote function gives me the same window as the quote button. Perhaps I'm missing something. Everything else is a-okay and looks fine to me. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I'd prefer it if "colors" and not "colours" were being moved and changed. I would prefer you lose that hideously lower class accent and learn to spell like a civilized gentleman Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nat Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 (edited) I prefer proper English spelling and "colours" is not proper. That would be pronounced "co-lau-ers". I think you need to speak to the English about that because that is how they spell it "colours"! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences Edited November 6, 2009 by Nat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 We working on a complete redesign of the forums, and a lot of colours/etc are going to be moved and changed. I am taking in everyone's suggestions into consideration, Like this suggestion to replace the "IP Board" logo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Like this suggestion to replace the "IP Board" logo? Maybe if this was "NAFTAboard" or "Can-Am Forum" instead of Mapleleaf Web"... -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Maybe if this was "NAFTAboard" or "Can-Am Forum" instead of Mapleleaf Web"... Where's the love? It's would show that Maple Leaf Web is a Canadian site that embraces it's neighbor to the South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_ Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Greg, I'm curious about the voting buttons on each post. It seems like a good alternative to replies that basically say "I agree", or just have some smiley faces in response to someone. I tried it out, but I got a pop up box that said I had used up my quota of positive responses for the day, even though it was my first one. Is this a glitch, or is this functionality turned off? Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I prefer proper English spelling and "colours" is not proper. That would be pronounced "co-lau-ers". The Americans have always had a shortage of "U"s so they've been spelling words without for generations. Someone ought to fix that but America is more about "Me" than "U" so no one has ever really bothered. Doesn't make the spelling correct, though. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 PS. Internet "newspaper" comments may kill Internet forums such as Maple Leaf Forum. Why post here when I can post on the G&M comment sections? Not really. The comments are pre-moderated and not freewheeling enough. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 The Americans have always had a shortage of "U"s so they've been spelling words without for generations. Someone ought to fix that but America is more about "Me" than "U" so no one has ever really bothered. Doesn't make the spelling correct, though. Actually when I was in Second Grade in academic 1964-5 we were taught that "both spellings" were OK. I have since learned that the spelling with the "U's" was not proper English. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I have since learned that the spelling with the "U's" was not proper English. I suppose you were misinformed then. Get with the programme..haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 New board ok, I'm not a "blue " person but that me although Maple leafs are not blue and if changing the name to connect it to Canada and the US... hey... the north american union forums, which would probably be blue anyway and you may get some mexicans too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 (edited) People who drop by their local pub to chat with the regulars aren't the sort of people who'd find the comments section at the bottom of a G&M story to their liking. -k I dunno.I had a friend who owned a cafe/pub in Quebec City and every so often, he thought about renovating the place. After endless discussions of what to do/change, he invariably decided to leave it the way it was. As he said, "The regulars feel comfortable here and the tourists think that it's authentic. The young poor kids aren't afraid to come here." I know that engineers have an urge to "fix things" but if I were Greg, I'd leave it alone. If it ain't broke, why fix it? ----- As to the G&M comments section, it's the same as this forum but on a much larger scale. This place is a local pub; the G&M comment sections are like a Manhattan bar. The G&M comments section has the added benefits of an intelligent OP and closer policing. There are perhaps a few other technical differences: in Maple Leaf Forum, it is easier to post quotes and links. We can search previous posts here. The G&M comments don't offer these features now but they will likely be added. Newspapers, discussion forums and the Internet are, as I say, a work in progress. I think smart newspaper owners/publishers (at least in Anglo-Saxon countries) are starting to understand why the "Letters to the Editor" page and the classified ads were so important. Edited November 8, 2009 by August1991 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Admin Greg Posted November 8, 2009 Author Forum Admin Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I don't have that menu thing, with personal assistant, and can't send PMs. If I click on the PM box the whole screen goes gray and nothing happens thereafter until i refresh. Are you still experiencing this issue? And btw, what does adding someone as a friend mean or do? It just means you respect or like their opinion. If you add someone as a friend, their name will appear (under your Friends) in your profile. Quote Have any issues, problems using the forum? Post a message in the Support and Questions section of the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Admin Greg Posted November 8, 2009 Author Forum Admin Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Greg, I'm curious about the voting buttons on each post. It seems like a good alternative to replies that basically say "I agree", or just have some smiley faces in response to someone. I tried it out, but I got a pop up box that said I had used up my quota of positive responses for the day, even though it was my first one. Is this a glitch, or is this functionality turned off? The error you were receiving before has been fixed. Voting a post positively, or negatively, affects a members overall reputation. You can read a detailed technical explanation here, otherwise, it works very similar to the ignore feature, but on the post level (rather than on the member level). If enough users vote down a post - giving it a lower reputation, you can set a filter up to not show any postings with that poor of a reputation. Look at the bottom of each thread, you'll see "Currently viewing all posts. Change threshold?" - you can select that and modify the thread to only show postings of a specific reputation level. Actually when I was in Second Grade in academic 1964-5 we were taught that "both spellings" were OK. I have since learned that the spelling with the "U's" was not proper English. Well, you were taught wrong. I know that engineers have an urge to "fix things" but if I were Greg, I'd leave it alone. If it ain't broke, why fix it? Security wise, I didn't have a choice. The forums needs to be regularly updated to keep hackers at bay. As to the G&M comments section, it's the same as this forum but on a much larger scale. This place is a local pub; the G&M comment sections are like a Manhattan bar. The G&M comments section has the added benefits of an intelligent OP and closer policing. Can you create a new thread at the G&M "forums"? Nope. Can you easily communicate with the moderators and or any of the other forum members? Nope. Can you search past entries? Nope. Can you ignore annoying members? Nope Can you carry on a in-depth discuss without the fear of the moderators suddenly closing comments? Can you view the postings in multiple different views (threaded, linear, etc)? Nope. I could go on and on how the G&M "forums" are not really forums. However, the biggest difference is that they're not a community. They're mostly drive-by smears made by rabid partisans only interested in shouting at each other. While things around here are not always prefect, our civility and respect for each other separates us from opinion clearinghouses like the comments section provided by the various online newspaper websites. And are you serious, you think the G&M moderation is better? I find that laughable. Quote Have any issues, problems using the forum? Post a message in the Support and Questions section of the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Great job. A few minor quibbles: Personal assistant is gone; Forum clock is still off Those are quibbles. Otherwise great work. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Great job Greg. I really like the new layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Admin Greg Posted November 8, 2009 Author Forum Admin Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 [*]Personal assistant is gone; Remind me again, what exactly did the assistant do that isn't provided in the upgraded forum feature set? Quote Have any issues, problems using the forum? Post a message in the Support and Questions section of the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Looks pretty good. What exactly is the typeset? The same as the rest of Mapleleaf was? Still playing around with it but it seems to be a nice clean lay-out. Good work. How long in the end did it take to roll it all out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Where is the "New Content" link? I often use that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Remind me again, what exactly did the assistant do that isn't provided in the upgraded forum feature set? Gave your own last ten (10) posts, 20 most active posters, etc. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Default fonts seem a little big, but thank you for the forum. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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