Oleg Bach Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 Yes. Language is able to structure our dwelling place outside the animal kingdom because it is not only a series of onomatopoeias.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomatopoeia Nope _ not going to take the link - don't wanna spoil my amature self educated status..thanks chump for the free education but no thanks ----------Played a club last night - I was great - time to go back to my roots - you be the hero - and I will provide the sound track -----------had to decide what I was going to be when I grew up - have no choice but to be the bird that sings - and brings joy - my last and most important talent..besides -----the power in the sky is pissed off at me for cutting it so late and so close - off to save the world benny - you do your bit - I will do mine - adoration and love to you and yours - can you tell the wine kicked in ---thank you - talk to Bush Cheney once in a while - the american connection is very important - plus he's a lover also ---took a while to get him out of his tank...but love does conquer all. Quote
benny Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 Nope _ not going to take the link important Someone else will take it. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 Language creates our humanity.Humanity creates language. Quote
benny Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 Humanity creates language. You have to grasp the word "always-already". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always_already Quote
DogOnPorch Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 You have to grasp the word "always-already".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always_already Here we go w/ the Kant. Maybe he carved his initials into Heidegger. Can I shoot you with that arrow? It'll never get to its target. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
benny Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 Here we go w/ the Kant. Maybe he carved his initials into Heidegger. Can I shoot you with that arrow? It'll never get to its target. Recall your interests as indicated in your profile: History, Space Flight, Aircraft, Philosophy, Anthropology, Paleontology, Geology. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 You have to grasp the word "always-already".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always_already It is not hard to imagine the pre-linguistic human when you consider how humanity attaches symbolic meaning to language. The meaning, and therefore the language itself is created by humanity. Quote
benny Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 how humanity attaches symbolic meaning to language You have now to grasp one more word: http://nosubject.com/Point_de_capiton Quote
cybercoma Posted June 11, 2009 Report Posted June 11, 2009 You have now to grasp one more word:http://nosubject.com/Point_de_capiton The point de capiton is nothing more than the lowest common denominator of human linguistic creation. Quote
benny Posted June 12, 2009 Report Posted June 12, 2009 The point de capiton is nothing more than the lowest common denominator of human linguistic creation. You are confusing semiotics and semantics. Semiotics (signs) is this kind of lowest common denominator but the quilting point is related to semantics that is to meaning (the signified). Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 I believe in both creationism and evolution .. so I guess I am in the middle between religious people and non religious people ..which isn't a fun place to be because both sides believe they are the only right group Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) It's hard to believe that there is a supreme power who was always there and made the universe It's hard to believe that this was all made by chance How were animals made by accident? How was the sun positioned just so, so that we wouldn't burn up or so that the planet would be unlivable..the solar system, the universe, photosynthesis How are people so sure one way or the other? I believe humans evolved from apes but they evolved with help from the higher power But that's what I believe and I am not even 50 % certain of that How can anyone be so sure of any of this? We shouldn't be teaching Creationism OR Evolution in schools since nobody knows if either are real I struggle with it everyday Edited February 14, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I believe humans evolved from apes but they evolved with help from the higher power You mean like the Monolith from Arthur C Clarke's Space Odyssey series? Any aliens who may have assisted our evolution were themselves the product of evolution. Clarke's stories may be fiction but the possibility of aliens is certainly rooted in reality. Edited February 14, 2012 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 We shouldn't be teaching Creationism OR Evolution in schools since nobody knows if either are real I definitely wouldn't want to see creationism being taught in schools but teaching evolution in church would be a really good idea. By the way, why are you capitalizing evolution, it's not like it's divine or anything, it just is what it is. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
The_Squid Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 Read some science books.... you will no longer struggle with whether evolution is real or not. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 Read some science books.... you will no longer struggle with whether evolution is real or not. I know all about the science of evoloution, I've studied it in school and out of school I'm still not convinced one way or the other I don't see why it can't be as a result of both Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 What's your hypothesis in regards to your gathered data and observations? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
olpfan1 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Posted February 14, 2012 Scientists are no better than Creationists... both think they are right, both think they can prove it, when in fact there are some things that man will just never know neither will accept that because of their egos Quote
The_Squid Posted February 15, 2012 Report Posted February 15, 2012 Scientists are no better than Creationists... both think they are right, both think they can prove it Then you don't understand even the very basic tenets of science. Quote
WLDB Posted March 16, 2012 Report Posted March 16, 2012 Scientists are no better than Creationists... both think they are right, both think they can prove it Science is based on proof. Religion is not. When the proof points to another possibility, the scientists will go that way. It doesnt matter what their personal beliefs may be, they work with what they have. I'm fairly convinced that evolution is the way things happened. I certainly do not believe in creationism/intelligent design. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
dre Posted March 16, 2012 Report Posted March 16, 2012 Scientists are no better than Creationists... both think they are right, both think they can prove it, when in fact there are some things that man will just never know neither will accept that because of their egos Silliness. The difference between scientists and creationists is HARD WORK. Both of them can be wrong, but scientists are actually willing to put some effort and elbow grease into figuring things out. Creationism is based entirely on a doctrine, so its basically static. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
cybercoma Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 I know all about the science of evoloution, I've studied it in school and out of school I'm still not convinced one way or the other I don't see why it can't be as a result of both Evolution is an observable fact. There's no denying that organisms and species evolve. Natural selection, on the other hand, is arguable. Quote
kimmy Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 Evolution is an observable fact. There's no denying that organisms and species evolve. Natural selection, on the other hand, is arguable. I don't think natural selection is arguable. It's an unavoidable consequence of heredity. The best known direct observations of evolution-- the peppered moth and drug-resistant bacteria-- are examples of natural selection in action. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
cybercoma Posted March 17, 2012 Report Posted March 17, 2012 I don't think natural selection is arguable. It's an unavoidable consequence of heredity. The best known direct observations of evolution-- the peppered moth and drug-resistant bacteria-- are examples of natural selection in action. -k Natural selection is the best explanation that we have for the evolution of species, absolutely. It's not the only explanation for evolution though and that's why I say it's arguable. For instance, plants and animals can evolve through domestication.. Quote
WLDB Posted March 21, 2012 Report Posted March 21, 2012 For instance, plants and animals can evolve through domestication.. That can be argued to be a case of intelligent design as it is humans interfering and changing the course of evolution. Quote "History doesn't repeat itself-at best it sometimes rhymes"-Mark Twain
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