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In Canada we call them humans not monkeys. You remind me of a traveling penicillin salesman who spreads vd to increase his sales.

It may have made things worse for many of us economically but it may result in some positive things too...uh yah I sound like Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz and Dr. Oz or shit Oprah but you know what I mean... hey maybe people come out of this and elect Jesse Ventura President and Don Cherry becomes Governor General and Bobby Orr Prime Minister.

Lol, PC drinks own brand of koolaid. He rides his moods like a surfer on a wave thus some extreme positions. Don't worry about him. He is a very respectful genuine person. Just don't expect him come in off the waves ever ..even during a hurricane. Hey PC aint no point telling Liberty what medicine to take when you spit all yours out. Liberty is from my planet. We have densef molecules. We don't walk through walls we smash through them.

Defer to your comments AG.

Yah fair is fair. He is fixed right now in a dark space. Some people get bitter as they age. Drinking a lot will do it to you as well. I suspect both in this case. I do not mean to judge. I am a grouchy old fart. I just sense that darkness too and speculate.

He was expressing a subjective opinion in a respectful way as many of us do on this topic. You as usual have nothing to contribute to the subject ...just the need to show up and take a personal shot at someone whose opinion you disagree with. You have no opinion to share just a snide aside. That is why whatever name is used on this forum the trolling remains identical.

A person's genuine intent or motives such as compassion for the poor and/or envy of the rich can be hard to differentiate. I myself look at what people do not what they say to try discern such things. When I was younger I was much more judgemental unforgiving of myself and others. Its hard sometimes not to be judgemental. It often is a reflex response to being fearful or anxious of something...its an attempt to put something threatening in a less threatening place, i.e., somewhere if dan be loathed with good reason. Your point is WELL taken. Some of us who complain are simply envious.

Distinction noted, good point on the distinction. Got it. We were told the indiscriminate quarantine which you are right was new came about because of the lack of symptoms of the virus plus no active early testing and tracking system to identify the carriers forcing the shut down to err on the side of caution. Of course we should ask could early testing and tracking mitigated the need for collective shut down? Experiences in Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore seem to suggest so if that is ccx shat you mean by unnecessary Oftenwrong I must defer to that point. As well had China been up front and transparent about the virus that might have helped. In hindsight we have many questions to ask an DC whether they get answered remains to be seen. Let us hope Chin's example of cover up and lying to its people and the world will not be emulated. In any event conspiracies will be advanced, governments will continue to lie for what they call security reasons and you and I will operate in a world of rampant disinformation making accuracy of anything we are told suspect.

For further clarification, bats in image 1, cats in photo 2, dogs and rats in photo 3, and then more bats in photo 4 being touched by hand just to make it clear. Bats in North America eat mosquitoes. Do not harm them. Just do not touch them. Like any wild mammal they have fleas, ticks, parasites and carry viruses. They are ugly but harmless. China and other nations eat bat, rat, cat, horse, mice, any thing that has flesh and blood. They export their fruit and vegetables grown with human excrement fertilizer and they urinate on their produce thinking it's a disinfectant. It is a basic rule of nature not to eat anything that has a digestive system that can digest meat or lives in unsanitary conditions in it's natural habitat. Technically rats in say rural Cambodia that only eat vegetation are full of protein. What you see in the picture are city sewer rats being sold as food. It's not racist to challenge such practices. I will. Blaming Trump for it is nutz. By the way, rat is served in Russia in Moscow as acdelicacy. Moscow eats its river rats. They also see sturgeon which are bottom feeding garbage fish as a delicacy, especially their eggs. Hygiene conditions associated with the handling of food have created numerous virus outbreaks in China its governments ignore regulating wet markets..why? Are they afraid their food inspectors would accept bribes? Do they think the ceating practices are so engrained in culture they can not be changed? Is the real issue China won't admit isctyat it does if have sufficient food to eat so its people will eat anything they can find out of necessity? China has a collective fear of not having food to eat. This has repeated in its history for thousands of years. During WW2 therecwas extreme food shortage. During the great revolution of Mao Tse Tung up to 20 million starved to death. Its people are hungry. If it moves they eat it. Where is XUL to discuss such issues candidly and frankly and address his government's failures? The Chinese ambassador to Israel died today of natural causes says the media. Excuse me if these days anything to do with China draws questions.

Thank you for the polite answer and willingness to respond candidly..much appreciated. One question I have is, given the failure of the UN model what makes you think you can run a one world government free of political compromise that prevents meaningful government?

Pelosi? Lol. Any President orc elected leader is a bobble head doll. Who actually controls them you and I will never know. I wou also suggest its more probable that the last thing a truly powerful person would want is a public profile or be noticed and so instead create bobble head dolls to distract from detecting their true intent.

Wonderful photos. Me I climb trees or get under my canoe or head to the lake..not as brave. Got in the way of a female and her Cubs. I was lucky I had a tree. Was with people shoot a renegade elderly male. Probably had some neurological disease or maybe distemper. Black bears become a danger because of garbage dumps and people feeding them. Also Grizzlies do whatever and whenever. They are like wolverines. You stay the phack away. I say the same about badgers, skunks, cougars, wolves. Just stay away. Personally I am most afraid of skunks and leeches. Then black flies, deer flies, ticks, any blood sucker insect. I like frogs. I feel guilty eating their legs and using them as bait. I eat snails. In Quebec we call them escargots. I blame French cuisine. Anything with butter and garlic works. I like nature but have a homo sapiens tendency to eat it. People who eat bear meat are crazy. Anything that can or does digest meat that you eat will eventually make you sick. It's why I do not eat humans.

Well then...rather than have them stress out, shoot them then. You save money and needless suffering. Actually bulletsxare expensive. Give them cyanide mixed with a sedative.

Take responsibility. You and Trump I personally blame. Shame on you 2. I also blame Ryan Seacrest. What an annoying homo sapiens.

We have been one step from a nuclear war since the bomb was created. Today's war woukd be fought with germs that would leave the infrastructure in place without contamination drift from radioactive fall out. Even better is a high altitude explosive paralyzing the computer info systems and causing chaos. Next, people who fret about things they have no control cover are either depressive or silly. The former can be treated...the latter can not...unless you turn it into a career such as stand up comedy or creative arts or maybe cult leading or politics but we have enough cults and politicians.

With due respect isolation or quarantine is standard protocol with any contaminant or contagious pathogen. No statistic has ruled that out. In regards to social distancing it's designed to reduce passing on a pathogen by sneezing. It was never meant as a cure. Human contact is the real issue. If someone does not know they have covid they can contaminate physical objects or person by touch or sneeze or exchange of blood or other bodily fluids directly or indirectly. I think with due respect saying the government should have done nothing is unrealistic and would have abandon its ethical responsibility to protect the public from a pandemic. I agree that power must be used in moderation and I agree with TSS a one size fits all approach may not be the most effective. I would say to TSS regulations or laws usually are one size fits all in approach because the more you make a law flexible and discretionary the harder it is to enforce. Flexibility based on each situation is ideal but pretty much impossible to write in a regulation which explains why some laws are so singular in approach. It makes them easier to enforce. This is why with food and health regulation enforcement depends on inspectors to determine that grey area. Inspector cost money and require time and the more inspections the slower the immediate enforcement to assure fairness. In a country the size of China inspection systems facethe challenge of keep up with the volujebof wet markets and engrained behaviour not to mention compromise from bribery. I think in Canada like Finland they try to inspect as best they can. Not easy balancing individual and collective rights.

To start the entire premise for your thread is that what you read in the New Testament was written in a verified manuscript you can rely on as written. I would question that and state you do not know the original script and the Bible you read is not the originally recorded words but has been repeated after repeat editing which is precisely states why it says "according to.....". Next, what "poor reputation" of God claim do you assign to " all the Jews" and what repeated attempts to kill Jesus do you assign to "all the Jews"? What evidence do you have for attributing to "all the Jews" culpability for slandering God let alone repeatedly trying to kill Jesus? Is that your Christian belief that you have been taught to blame "all the Jews" for repeatedly trying to kill Jesus, bad-mouthing God, and anything else? Next if you believe the New Testament is a literal work of writing then why ask people for their opinion of it? Your questions not only stereotype in a negative way all Jews but presume the words you question have specific meaning which leads you then to make conclusions you did about your confusion as to them. So are you preaching or making a sermon posed as questions Are you seeking to discuss or is this an attempt to proselytize? Finally let me make this clear, if you use the New Testament as justification to assign group blame to Jews I have been there done that. Next, don't ask questions if your true intent is to proselytize, its dishonest. If your true agenda is to preach don't pose as wanting discussion and if you preach group smears against Jews I will challenge you.

You are a troll and your racism and anti semitism are there for all to see. Your act is worn out.

Let us succinctly summarize now that XUL seems to have gone back to the embassy. + + = filthy wet markets serving as incubators for contagious viruses This has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with Chinese wet markets and their sanitation practices.

Your greeting is a large run on sentence with a plethora of vague references and complaints. In fact I notice many "new" posters who come on this board with such pronouncements then quickly vanish. I also notice the opening statement does not ask for or invite comment but makes a unilateral pronouncement. I also note a reference to one world government that appears to me to be written in a way to incite argumentative responses. What is your agenda on this forum? What do you intend to promulgate> Because if that is what you want to do, explain your positions clearly and ask for feedback. If you simply want to use the forum to yell at people with one way declarations then your intent is trolling and that will soon become evident and I suppose you will vanish as quick as you came with no responses or of course lead in to another troll continuing a pattern on the board many are aware of us well. Thank you.

That is a big subjective assumption that people after 9-11 suddenly stopped talking about their individual rights. I am not sure how you arrived at the conclusion people stopped talking about their individual rights after 9-11 given the fact many people were fueled by 9-11 to not trust their own government over what happened and still don't. The fact people do not discuss 9-11, the murders of JFK, RFK, MLK, the events of the Nixon era, the Vietnam, Gulf and Afghan wars as they used to, doesn't mean they stopped caring about their individual rights and do not question government policies in regards to those important incidents of their history. With due respect are you projecting your own complacency for the topic on others? Americans openly identify with Trump each time he repeats he is fighting government in what he does and in the name of individual rights. How can you miss that? How do you miss the constant questioning of anything initiated by governments in the US? Seriously I don't get that. The sheer volume of people questioning government powers in the US was fueled by the very thing you mentioned and still is fueled by it and many other incidents. If you are talking about Canadians I would think there are more people who may reflect your passive acceptance of government authority than there would be in the US per ratio to our total population, I also think you under-estimate the concern many of us have over the erosion of individual rights. The fact we do not shoot you with an assault rifle does not mean we do not care about such issues.

With respect, I would contend that just because you might believe the motives of a government restricting our movement is justified because of Covid 19 does not make the edict to order us home apolitical. Anything a government implements or imposes on us by the inherent nature of that implementation or imposition makes it political not its intent. Further I would argue we are all at a certain level political prisoners of Covid 19 in that we were told to stay home and not work. The quarantine is house arrest and restricts our freedoms and livelihood. I would argue imprisonment can be any government decree which forces us to stay in a specific place and prohibits us from working and living an open and free life. The intent or motives of the government does not make us less imprisoned the physical restrictions do.

I do believe Dialamah you refer to this: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-begins-working-on-reopening-plan-as-modelling-data-suggests-cases-have-peaked-1.4904027 I do also believe a good reason for delay will be to start with the wide range of legal issues that have to be dealt with which will make return not so easy: https://www.mccarthy.ca/en/insights/blogs/canadian-employer-advisor/covid-19-update-moving-forward-considerations-re-opening-physical-workplaces https://www.osler.com/en/resources/regulations/2020/the-employer-s-covid-19-return-to-the-workplace-playbook Here is another summary of why the return will be slow: https://www.nationalobserver.com/2020/04/27/news/ontario-has-covid-19-reopening-plan-it-comes-big-caveats

..and I am saying nothing would surprise me but we could say the same thing about virtually every President after JFK. Why stop only at Biden.. As for Canada our leaders used to be hockey players never politicins. Now they are no longer because their having emotions and fighting was considered politically unacceptable and they were forced to turn into blobs of plain low fat yogurt.

Hey that is kind of true..malles means bad. Kamala was also the name of the Ugandan Head Hunter wrestler in the World Wrestling Federation and had to be one of the worst characters ever written...as bad as Anthony White aka Tony Atlas aka Saba Simba or James Ware aka Koko B. Ware. Most American politicians base their personnas on World Wrestling Federation wrestlers. Donald Trump follows the script of Ric Flair.