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It's a federation not a sovereign government. Go find out the difference. Next, I am not upset. I just find you annoying so the fact I do not want a conversation with you does not make make me uncivil or upset. Bottom line is for me you are a virgin posing as an expert on sexology. Get real. You need to get laid not read a book and I aint giving you a donation for the escort. Have a nice day.

First off Star Trek is fiction and your assumption I advocate its vision as practical truth to others as you do your movement is ridiculous. You mistake your thought processes and agenda and project them on to me. No I do not promote Star Trek modelled federations on anyone. Next the federation in Star Trek is in fact anti-thetical to what you propose. In fact Star Trek's vision suggests there is no actual unified global government butthere will continue to be fractured alliances at war with one another. In fact the closest thing in Star Trek to what you propose is the Borg meant to satirize the Chinese government and totalitarian but its fiction man, it's not reality. Get a grip on your channel changer. Next you now state your proposal is one based on ancient Greek model of democracy but you do not explain the actual democratic model you refer to let alone any working model of how you will implement it. So please stop with the prattle. Enough with your deflections, avoidance, references to unexplained definitions and lack of working examples.The fluff and puff does not substitute for substance. You remain unable to provide specifics on the most basic of principles you propose. Thanks but please move on to others. I now think you are in a cult group trying to recruit and use the name soverrigntist as a cover to your other group name and agenda. Like any preacher its just a matter of time until you ask for a donation. The fact your organization uses the same colours as the Nazis and blatantly copies a Masonic symbol speaks for itself. I respect your right to have your beliefs but respond to someone else. Buh bye now. Have a good day.

The fact criminals exist does not justify a police state just that criminals need to be regulated in a way that does not facilitate imprisoning innocent people simply because we do not like their opinions. I am repeating the same position I took as to apps, surveillance and any exercise giving government power to control private businesses and individuals. When I say free market I should have been more specific and stated free enterprise market or to be even more specific, privately owned markets. Is anything free? That's an issue I leave to Hari Krishna to deal with.

Regulation is not the issue, how far you go with it could be.

Delisting companies from the stock exchange by the state for political reasons sets a potentially angerous precedent that could unintentionally limit free trade markets not to mention a violation of constitutional rights guaranteed in the US constitution and Canadian Charter of Rights. Such exercises must be done with very good reason and as a last resort in protecting the public not as an everyday political tool... not unless you want to go the same way as China and let the government have absolute control of your market place. I argue question the identity and motives of people and political spambots quick to exploit any issue with alarmist headlines advocating control for more more government powers.

I have in Toronto. Lots of them but not since Covid. They can be found wherever they think young men frequent...then again for the same reasons you find dragon flies and deer flies... so you gotta be careful. Young women tell me the same thing about boars, mosquitoes and rats. At my age the drinking holes I frequent attract leeches.

I would contend the life of animals is as valuable as a human's life because by learning to respecting the sanctity of their lives we learn to do the same with human life. I also contend the life of an animal given up to test medicine to save humans of feed a human is by that sense as valuable as the human life or lives it enables to continue living. I am defending Cougar's respect for wildlife. I do not necessarily share his views on all hunters or gun control but yes on the sanctity of life.

Lol friends of Eyeball? Are you calling Celine Dion a commie? On a more serious note it was only a matter of time the syrupy condescending patronizing platitudes from that platypus Trudeau would be seen for what they were. That studdering fountain of feel good froth the flamboyantly flatulent fluff of a flake, Lord Justin of the house of Castro-Sinclair hoisted himself on his rhetorical petard.

You owe me and Justin an apology for above insensitive comment.

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Probably NWO...but do indulge me ...and let me play devil's advocate for the sake of discussion. Revolutions start like this. Crushing Hong Kong with either a slow choke hold or a sledge hammer will cause an adverse reaction. That reaction has a ripple effect that starts off as a tiny drop in a dam wall but escalates into a larger leak not necessarily visible and then eventually the wall collapses. China is trying to plug a hole using a drill that may be making the hole bigger. Time will tell but Hong Kong mayb create a a domino effect. With that in mind I suggest, If China can not regulate it's wet markets, don't be so sure it can regulate its people as strong as you think it can. Chinese history illustrates examples of many invincible empires think they could live on forever but collapsed.

Actually it does not if you continue reading. You and your book present no administrative structure to implement your election process or any explanation of how you will gather the votes and the method to allot them to seats and what chamber of seats those elected will be for and what the role of those elected will be and what will be the structure and level of the civil service they work with. You and your book do not explain how all countries agree to subordinate their existing laws to new superior supersceding sovereign laws and explain howyou will resolve the constitutional legal conflicts that will be triggered to prevent being able to impose those sovereign laws domestically in thousands of legal jurisdictions. You and your book do not explain your judiciary system and how it will enforce these laws through police, military and courts and your prison system. You and your book do not address how you will use the same laws across the entire world anr address how civil , judiciary and legislative branches will all be consistent and equal in approach and what tax system you will implement to finance all this. Again you engage in platitudes and refer to platitudes in the book with no working examples. Your blind parroting or reference to the book every time you are asked a question you can not answer is there for all to see, and so is the complete absence in the book of how these platitudes you present will be implemented. You and your book have not even one working model of any idea you propose or your book proposes. On that note I am done on this thread. When it comes to fiction I prefer Star Trek, my own hormonal flashbacks brought on by the aging process or chemicals I took as a teenager or fantasies involving Aubrey Plaza, Jane Fonda in her Barbella outfit, Mrs. Emma Peel from the Avengers, Wonder Woman, Foxy Brown Cleopatra Jones, Jaqueline Bisset, Morticia from the Adam's family and Trish Stratus former WWE champion. With due respect your lack of substance has turned your dialogue into a conversation with Kelly Ripa (you) and Ryan Seacrest ( your book). I think you need to spend time in this material world. You clearly think gravity won't apply to you in this dimension. Regards, Captain America, Captain Pike, Captain Kirk, Captain Picard, Captain Janeway, the Beatles, Cream, Fleetwood Mac, BB King, Ry Cooder, The Batman, The Spectre, The Phantom Stranger, Elastic Man, The Hulk, The Swamp Thing, The Thing, Godzilla, Fats Domino, Divine, and Johny Depp

Thank you. You are polite and respectful. I very much thank you for that. The comments I make are to your words and concepts. So whoever is behind the words your right to your views is respected as is your politeness. However and again with due respect your book provides no specifics and neither do you. Either way there seems to be no understanding of organizational behaviour, public administration management, curriculum design, or acknowledgement of differences in culture, language, religion, regional economic and geographical differences and you have no working models to deal with them. Same comments as to corruption. With due respect your book you quote does not have the answers neither do you. Coming up with a utopian idea is a quaint starting point. Now you have to complete your thoughts by showing not just what they are but how you intend to put them into practice. You have not given much thought to the latter and your book has not either. So with respect I now defer back to the comments of Infidel Dog. I mean no insult but I do mean to be right to the point and say, your ideals are privileged elitist concepts created in a bubble where you take many things as a given and therefore have never had to understood how they were k obtained and put into practice. Because of that you have given them no consideration in your theories, specifically how they would have to be changed and what the consequences of changing them might trigger . Its great to say all people shall have water. The problem is you have not given any thought to the pipelines you might need and other practical challenges. Again you live in a world where you take water for granted.

Your comment you simplified your answer to make it easier to understand is condescending . No one asked you too. On the contrary they need you to do more than spit out non explained assumptions of value. What It is clear you can't explain any thing asked of you and that is why you keep referring people to your good book. You deflect from your inability to explain anything asked. Here let me illustrate in specific terms what I mean You: Hello I am hear to teach you about sex. Us: Have you actually engaged in sex. You: Not yet. I plan to though. Us: So on what do you base your knowledge? You: A book. Us: What does this book say? You: People have sex. US: How? You: By having sex. Us: How do you have sex? You: Well to make it easy for you to understand it's when you have sex. Us: What happens to have sex happen? You: Sex. Me: Let me be specific you need to get phacked. I didn't need a book to make that clear did I? Have a great day.

Why thanks. The referring to yourself as we is a tactic many use on the forum. It's supposed to make you sound more credible since more than 1 person is supposed to agree with you. It's called pack puffery. You try make your positions appear widespread, the reference to we and book. Its as variation of the tactic some of our trolls vfc use with multiple names. The point is on a forum you hide behind anonymity. You could be anyone. You clearly are recruiting but if you are legit you would use your real name now wouldn't you? My questions were not broad and not very difficult and all you did yet again is say read the book and provided meaningless answers, deliberately obtusive because you can not answer simple specific basic questions. You provided no explanation of how you will replace the electoral system let one what you mean by responsible person. You state you will replace existing government and civil service that will prepare people go the best extent possible for civil service but do not explain this process.ou then throw in two measures so broad in possible meaning they can not be understood and then you do not explain them or the process to teach them and to guarantee they will be followed. In short you avoid answering my questions other than to parrot back a passage as to the symbol then deliberately engage in deliberately vague platitudes that provide no specifics and while hidingbehind your vague general sophistry claim my questions were too general. How hard is it to explain your structure of civil service? How hard is to explain what you are replacing elected officials with? You engage in platitudes, vague theoretical references that have no contextual references and so no meaning. If that is your recruiting plan sorry but it's void in substance. You are blowing bubbles.

I have seen them both naked in the shower..neither has testes.

I agree with much of what you said but I do not describe Christianity as usurping the Jewish religion by creating a human God other than God. To me God is a borrowed word from Greek used to refer to the concept of a singular intelligent entity that created everything. It is a human construct. I do not define God as having human qualities but as an abstract concept of the origin of energy. The first Christians never defined God in a human form. THE story of son of God sent to save humanity from itself in fact came from King Constantine demanding a group of men to put into writing a set of stories to explain a value system that mixed together pagan and Christian beliefs to avoid a civil war and if fact the son of God story is a common pagan story repeated in over 80 pagan belief systems. The New Testament was drafted by a committee of Constantine's choosing who picked and chose from many stories yhose values they felt could be best used to meet Constantine's political agenda to avoid a war between pagans and Chridtians and enable a way to keep the masses under constant surveillance. Given the erosion of organized religion today it does not surprise me governments look to new stories to justify controlling us and nos use apps, the cell phone and internet to track us rather than confessional booths. The creation of physical church created a confessional process that could track the thought processes of the masses and providedan early warning system to identify political opponents and their plots. It also institutionalized a hierarchy of leaders to control beliefs of their followers and be used as a control agent of the state. This control agent then went rogue and created it's own state to control other states. Religions are based on organized structures of groups who wish to create a pack or collective a basic primal behaviour common to homo sapiens and other mammal species. Some would argue our religions were also influenced by insectoid behaviour and their hive mentality and reptile behaviour and their swarming mentality. I do not understand quite frankly many of your lead ins and responses. They appear at times for me to serve as platform to use the lead ins to preach an evangelical form of Christianity. I use the same critical approach to any institution with a hierarchy and has an ability to impose itself on others to usurp free choice if we use the word usurp. Your use of labels like Jew or gnostic I find quaint. My Jewish identity is on a collective concept of shared persecution and continuing anti-semitism. It is an existential exercise and it has no one easy to stereotype definition. As for holy books Jread them all as I do Aesop's fables, Isaac Bolshevik Singer's stories and passages from Taoism, Kao Tzu, Confucious, the Buddha, WWE wrestlers, not literally but as parables with as many possible interpretations as humans wish to project on and then from gh ed CD EA words they read from these parables. I do not literally believe Moses parted a sea or Jesus walked on water any more than I believe my favourite wrestlers are in fact the characters they play. If that were the case I would believe Rowdy Roddy Piper was my Messiah. So I find some of your comments in reference to what you think I believe inaccurate. I may not interpret the Koran or Bible literally but I am capable of seeing and understanding how others do. I do not think them wrong or right..I only get concerned ifvtheybuse their beliefs go engage in orvjustify violence or imposition of it on others. I do not answer questions unless asked and I have no truths to share. I have atbtimes subjective opinions and at other times opinions I believe are based on objectively prove methodology but I do not claim to know truth and never have. For me truth is a concept that differs in each human. In my concept it's an illusion brought on by neurological or psychiatric phenomena, chemicals in the brain, hormones and chromosomes as well as environmental, political, socio-economic stimuli, medical conditions, lifestyle and dietary habits.

You deflected and did not explain what the symbol means...please explain what it means. Let us be clear. I read a lot of negative stories about Masons butbif as anything that makes me careful not to judge them. I use the same approach to all organized institutions... respectful skepticism over the structure of their hierarchies. Your symbol and recruiting messages bar a strong resemblance to the Madon symbols and values. If you are not a Mason with due respect, you border line on appearing to plagiarise their beliefs. As for stating the Masons are secretive and you are not, and again said respectfully, it is that kind of pat response that do not exactly inspire confidence in your statement because it is easy to throw out a pat comment about an organization without backing it up. You may as well have said all Masons are fat. You threw out an alleged characteristic with no reference to base it. That seems to be that you are doing...making pat remarks with no basis to show how you arrive at them. You are like someone who claims to channel an alien's beliefs. You offer unbiased statements. Now back to my question you deflected from.. what does your symbol stand for and what is the structure of your government and how would it not have layers of authority that are open and transparent? Please answer...what does your symbol stand for and explain the levels of government and administration you will use to administer your government including your tax, civil and criminal legal systems, your military, your elected assemblies, your civil service departments, your budgets your methods of controlling health and economic transactions and your method of assuring uniform approaches to laws across the planet. Thank you. p.s. I was a cub scout once

It's two fat guys calling each other fat. They both need bras.

Phack me. I have eaten human meat. They call it Big Macs in Toronto. Every now and then you find a toe nail.

Well stated comeback. I myself am trying to avoid blaming except fofvth ed Chinese government. No benefit of the doubt for them. They killed people to cover up, profited from medical supply sales and have turned a blind eydcto filthy wet markets so they can fish my kosher buttoxian region.

Deflection. The drug you talk of was never stated by Trump to be a cure and you know it. He never guaranteed it as a cure or told anyone to take it.. and your very clip shows you to have lied. Yet you again smeer Trump with zero proof of his actual words you claim told someone to kill themselves with a cure he prescribed..you do not just misrepresent with false inneuendo..you do so repeatedly.. so I call your thread out and the words you produce as false.

Anyone can go to the internet and type in Chinese wet markets and find the images. Xul you want to deny wet markets in China are incubators for viruses..go ahead. Your own government said they were. You want to deflect this to wet markets only outside China? Bullshit. All wet markets are incubators of viruses but it doesn't absolve Chinese wet markets Your attempt to defect blame to Indonesia is idiotic. Your attempt to argue anybody but your countryshould be blamed as you do with Trump and now Indonesia is bullshit. It shows the kind of denial your country's government will engage in rather than take direct responsibility. It shows ehybyour government exposed its citizens to needless death and killed off it's own doctors and citizens from exposing the virus. I argue this denial isxan act of cowardice and deceit and completely transparent.

Bullshit and an out and out lie. Those are pictures from tourists in China. Prove them false show your proof. The attempt to deflect by blaming people in Hong Kong or Indonesian wet markets is a joke. You are full of accusations without a shred of proof. Where are the words from Trump? Where are they? Go on, Prove the virus came from Indonesian wet markets. Explain what the phack Covid 19 has to do with Hong Kong. The pictures you show are not the trade markets in the pictures I showed. You deliberately misrepresent photos from Chinese wet markers I showed as being from Indonesia using a citation from an article that has nothing to do with Chinese wet market photos.