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You think this is just a Canadian issue? The Americans do it to manipulate prices. If dumping is a real problem for you, maybe we need to manage supply even more. https://www.wisfarmer.com/story/news/2016/10/17/us-dairy-farmers-dump-43-million-gallons-year/92313444/ https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/the-dairy-industry-dumps-128-million-tons/ https://www.milkmoovement.com/blog-holder/rethinking-waste-in-dairy-tackling-dump-milk-for-better-margins The Americans have never met their existing quotas, not one penny of tariff has ever been collected. You really do hate your country. No doubt you would support Americans dumping theirs across the border.

What is fair? There is one big problem with our quota system for western dairy farmers. Since the dairy board was taken over by the feds, milk prices are set nationally instead of regionally. Fraser Valley farmers are really suffering because the price they get isn't covering the higher costs of farming here. I know one multigenerational dairy farmer who looked at the fact he was slowly borrowing to stay in business until he went broke, so he sold his cows, quota and dairy equipment, paid off his debts and went into growing high quality hay for horse people. Business is booming and he is having to make sure he doesn't sell so much that he won't have enough to see his regular customers through the winter. Tariffs can be necessary if your competition is being subsidized by governments. When the US drops all its farm subsidies, then we can talk about tariffs.

Lose what? You want an entire industry taken over by subsidized US dairy. Yes, that is "unCanadian".

So you would also like your tax money going to match US dairy subsidies. Small price to pay I guess. Some conservative you are.

Canada imported $877 million in dairy from the US last year while exporting $524 million to the US so the US has a substantial trade surplus in dairy. Most of the US demand is for premium cheeses, particularly goat and sheep's milk cheeses which are rare in the US. https://www.producer.com/news/u-s-dairy-exports-to-canada-up-67-per-cent/ https://agrimoon.com/canadian-dairy-exports-to-the-u-s-flourish-amid-specialized-demand/

We only dropped tariffs on things that were CUSMA compliant. The US doesn't tariff those either.

There is an American equivalent, the same quotas apply to Canadian dairy going to the US. Except going over the quota is simply not allowed. So you are correct, there are no US tariffs, they just don't allow us to exceed them, period. If you want billions of your tax dollars spent on matching US dairy subsidies so our farms can remain competitive, just say so.

They were put on by Trudeau, not Carney. They did in fact violate CUSMA so it isn't really surprising that keeping them on would make negotiations more difficult.

Which was negotiated in previous NAFTA agreements. The present tariffs were negotiated under Trump and Canada did give up more access to the Canadian market than the previous agreement. Try doing at least a little fact checking before you put your foot in it.

No wonder you are such a patsy. You might as well say property taxes aren't a real tax because it doesn't fund the military or any of the other services provided by federal or provincial taxes. Consumers and businesses pay tariffs and the money goes to government. It's a tax.

So what do you base this on other than your own fantasies?

All taxes are collected to serve some purpose. Tariffs are just another way of transferring money from individuals and business to government. There is no difference.

That's part of CUSMA which Trump negotiated in his first term. I would say that Americans pay artificially lower prices because their industry is subsidized and ours is user pay.

All of them are taking money out of consumer and business pockets and sending it to government.

So what did any of that have to do with Biden? I'm not worried about Canada in the long term.

Lke what? The US doesn't have the large amounts of cheap electricity required to make aluminum economically, the US Canada auto pact goes back to 1965 and NAFTA was Reagan/Bush.

We dropped tariffs on CUSMA compliant goods, the tariffs on steel, aluminum and autos remain so basically we are tariffing the same things as the US.

A lot of words just to say you can’t.

So how is he lining his pockets? Be specific.

I guarantee one thing. Even if NATO countries to hit 5% GDP on defence, the US will not spend less. It may even spend more because the US has to be #1. A huge part of US GDP comes from the military industrial complex and a big reason Trump is pushing higher defence spending from allies is to provide customers for that industry. Between the defence industry and huge tech companies, he is very much in their pockets. https://www.aia-aerospace.org/news/2024-facts-figures-american-aerospace-and-defense-remains-an-economic-powerhouse/

CdnFox thinks Carney hitting Canadians with more tariffs would somehow make it easier for those businesses. That said, Carney needs to present a blueprint on making good on his promises when parliament returns. Businesses themselves will also need to pivot away from the US, government can help but it can't do that for them.

They can certainly estimate forest fire emissions. Fires are a temporary double whammy in that not only do they put a bunch of carbon into the air, you lose the carbon sink until the forest grows back. However, as long as the forest grows back they are part of a natural cycle. Deniers still don't seem to understand the difference between a natural carbon cycle where things grow and die vs digging up carbon that has been stored in the earths crust for millions of years and injecting it into the atmosphere

The way I read it the main the problem is our counter tariffs which are driving up business costs by making their production costs more expensive. American businesses that rely on imported materials or components to make their products will be having the same issue.