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And yet by your own admission in this instance that partisan rag is telling the truth about the potential use of this substance as a weapon. The dosage needed to use it recreationally is very very small. These people had 42 kg, enough to overdose millions of people. I think it makes sense to assume they were planning on using it for something other than selling it as drugs.

Everyone is speculating. So is Dia. She just likes to think that her specculating is morally superior.

Americans are already swamped each year by Canadian refugees trying to escape climate change.....they really like Florida I am told.

Call me crazy....some do...but I feel there is a weeeee bit of a connection between ALL THESE ACTORS turning-up. From Khadr to this latest terrorist/murderer. The PM listens to this Muslim Brotherhood scum bag...for one. Too many folks seem to know each other...not to mention getting bags of money or other considerations from the government. Dig, dig, dig...rats will come out.

The idea that it can be used as a chemical weapon was already shown earlier in this thread, from multiple sources. I can't find my post though, for some reason it is no longer here. Probably because I didn't write anything else, just gave the information. Anyway here is the link I provided that shows this substance is recognized as a potential weapon, and raises concern that it might be used by terrorists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carfentanil#Potential_as_a_chemical_weapon From the link- The toxicity of carfentanil has been compared to that of nerve gas, according to the Associated Press' article "Chemical weapon for sale: China's unregulated narcotic". The article quoted Andrew C. Weber, Assistant US Secretary of Defense for Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Defense Programs from 2009 to 2014, as saying "It's a weapon. Companies shouldn't be just sending it to anybody." Weber added "Countries that we are concerned about were interested in using it for offensive purposes... We are also concerned that groups like ISIS could order it commercially." Weber described various ways carfentanil could be used as a weapon, such as knocking troops out and taking them hostage or killing civilians in closed spaces such as train stations.[3] Underlined part is my emphasis, to give it credibility.

The more I read about that amount of carfentanyl, the more I see why it's incredibly important for certain ones to downplay it's importance and label the journalist who pointed out the facts about it as uncredible and fake news.

Ya. And guess what, sweetie? You're not the only one who knows the difference between speculation and information. If you don't like people speculating, then get off of discussion forums. Or at least let people discuss things without you screeching from your moral high horse. Sheesh. It's pretty revealing that you so desperately want the "mentally ill" narrative to be true that you are willing to allow that to be just "pretty much" established. But Islamic terrorism? No, that has to be "firmly" established for you to believe that........ But ya, you're the only one here who's completely unbiased.......

No problem, he's jetted off back to his vacation Just because a person doesn't like the source cos it's not left wing enough doesn't make it safe, the info was the same. Most media offer speculation and so on.

Given that the public is being told little or nothing about the Danforth shooting investigation by authorities, I guess we have to revert to a form of what might best be termed 'Trudeauology' just as during the Soviet era commentators on that regime's intentions and motives looked for secondary clues in a fashion referred to as 'Kremlinology'. As I said in a post yesterday evening, Trudeau didn't seem himself on the TV news coverage of his visit to the Danforth. Today's Toronto Star was a little bit more precise about his commentary, where it indicated that he did roll out his boilerplate "compassion" speech although it's not entirely clear what he was asking those present to be compassionate about. I don't think he needed to lecture the crowd on public compassion for the actual victims as this has been more demonstrably apparent than it has in the government's response to date. Interestingly, in the Star's GTA Section coverage of Trudeau's Danforth appearance, a staff reporter notes that "Without offering any details, [Trudeau] said it was important for governments to look at the best ways they (sic) to keep citizens safe." (The apparent editing error in the print version is the Star's.) Hmmm.... But isn't this the same government that's assured us we are safe? Again, you have to wonder what they're not telling us, and why? And why did Trudeau seem so preoccupied? Surely after a little vacation time he should have been well-rested.

Seeing just one kilo of the stuff could kill us all if applied "correctly"... The theater hostage situation in Russia some time back was apparently 'solved' using this stuff.

Trump is not a real conservative, but he is a real prick. That's why many Americans love him and his antics...drives liberals nuts !

In addition, how long before he has a total meltdown?

What? Me worry??

Trudeau is just trying to "appeal to his political base". Now where have I heard that before ?

Contrast this heinous act with a far less serious act - quickly proven to be a hoax. Where is Justin Trudeau's outrage - not to mention everyone else - who in the hijab hoax case immediately (within a few hours) jumped to conclusions with absolutely no police verification that in fact, a crime had occurred. How quickly and conveniently they all "forget". And - oh yes - the same spin doctor for Faisal Hussain chirped in with his two cents (thanks to that Dog on the Porch). Why is this the case? Link: https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2018/01/12/man-cuts-hijab-off-girl-in-scarborough-police-say.html

Quantity of a substance can show the intention of the person possessing it. The quantity of a drug found in someone's possession is used to differentiate between simple possession, and trafficking. Same goes for the amount of money they might have on them when arrested in possession of a prohibited substance. Large amounts of money is used as evidence of trafficking. It's possible the case is bigger than we know, might include other people stlll at large and if that's true, authorities will not tip their hand. In fact, the silence from the authorities is unusual if it were due to mental illness and case closed. But who knows... we must wait and see.

But if you ignore the 42 kilos of carfentanyl, the 33 guns, the visits to ISIS websites and the similarity to other Islamic terrorist attacks, then it's definitely mental illness, right? Right?? Pretty please.

This is exactly the point. Authorities don't appear to be divulging everything they know and the public wants and is entitled to know. That's why there is so much conjecture on social media. As for friends and family, do you really think they would come out and say "Oh yeah, Faisal was plotting a major terrorism strike...." Give your head a shake.

F-35s of course...only Canada still hates this thing...out of principle.

Folks from Trudeau to dialamah have a vested interest in Islam becoming dominant in Canada so Islam will never be the cause of anything except good things. Mmmmmmm...sure love that cooking.

It is improbable due to Islam being a major factor, here. As we know, Islam is the Religion of Peace and Muslims the perfect people incapable of violence.

One unit of carfentanyl can bring down a 10,000 pound elephant. You think he was planning on selling 42 kilos of it on the street?

Would you be willing to find out first hand?

Trudeau or any other Canadian politician in Canada would never dare to utter the words --Muslim terrorist-- when it comes to a Muslim going on a murder spree and killing plenty of innocent Canadian citizen's for Allah. Hell will freeze over first. We should pretty much know by now as to where and what side our politically correct puppet on a string politician are on and it ain't Canada or Canadians, pardner. In my travels I have heard many Canadians say that they are sure glad that they live in Canada and are Canadian. Why this poor excuse for a PM would say that refugees appreciate Canada more than Canadians do is beyond me. But what else can one expect from a loser drama teacher like him. In reality though why wouldn't new legal and illegal refugees and new immigrants say that they appreciate Canada more? Probably because where most of them came from were nothing more than shit hole countries. And also because Canada offers plenty of freebies to them when they get here and all of course at the Canadian taxpayer's expense. I am pretty sure the one thing that Canadians do not appreciate is watching their tax dollars being blown and wasted by the hundreds of millions of their tax dollars being blown and wasted every day on criminal illegals that this prime mistake allows in by the hundreds every day.

I am an "earthling" conservative and not an "earthling" liberal and therefore I cannot be stupid but only very smart. You still refuse to acknowledge as to whether Canadians or foreigners come first with you. It is very sad indeed when the rest of the world is more important to you than Canada or Canadians. Deplorable.

I'm not sure how germane details relating to Hussain's brother are to the Danforth investigation. There were apparent leaks from the investigation that were reported in the days following the shooting although these leaks recently appear to have been plugged. There was an interesting AP report last week, which I referenced via a link in a previous post on this topic, that appears to have received little if any attention in Canadian mainstream media coverage. It seems to me that the coverage has been throttled, but it's not clear whether this might be due to a request on the part of the government for media deference, which if so would suggest an abdication by our mainstream media of their crucial role in our democracy. It might, however, be justified in the event of a security emergency, in which case I believe the public should at least be permitted to know this is the case. Trudeau's bizarrely vague comment yesterday about finding ways to keep citizens safe seems troubling in the absence of actual information. In a vacuum, is it any wonder that independent and perhaps more biased outlets may be reaching wider audiences? If this is the case, it appears to be the government's fault. It's up to the government to set the record straight.

So anything that suggests this was Islamic terrorism is completely dismissed by you, then, right? Not even a possibility worth considering. He was just a poor, mentally ill man, deserving of our sympathies. Gotcha. Edit, and I'm not saying it WAS terrorism, but I at least am going to consider the possibility and not dismiss information out of hand just because it doesn't fit what I want to believe. Frankly, from what I see, there is just as much evidence that this is terrorism as there is that he was merely an innocent person with a few mental issues.

Canada can't even figure out free trade barriers between provinces, let alone the U.S. and Mexico. Make Trudeau/Canada sweat it out....

Indeed.....Trump is telling Canada to go away for now...."don't call us, we'll call you". Mexico could still throw Canada under the bus.

Look at what those Trudeau antics got for Canada...a time out by big bro, putting Canada in an even worse negotiation position...when will snowflake Trudeau resign? "The Canadian negotiating team, led by Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland, has been told that Lighthizer is focusing on negotiations with Mexico and isn’t interested in engaging with Canada at the moment, according to the people, who asked not to be named discussing private conversations. The situation was first reported by the National Post newspaper." “The Trump administration has clear frustrations with the Canadian government’s approach to the Nafta modernization, and we’re now seeing it play out in front of our faces,” Adam Taylor, principal and co-founder at trade advisory firm Export Action Global, said by phone from Ottawa. “We’ve seen virtually overnight Mexico and the U.S. are moving forward and Canada looks left behind and then forced into a position where it has to make a significant set of concessions just to be readmitted to the talks, it seems.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-31/canada-is-said-to-be-frozen-out-of-nafta-amid-u-s-mexico-talks-jk9vz83u

The only difference I see between the 2 articles is that the link Scribblet posted informs of what exactly 42 kilos of carfentanyl can do. The vast majority of Canadians would have no clue what the significance of 42 kilos of carfentanyl would be and why that amount should be troubling.

Actually, America spends far more on health care for all of its citizens (and illegals) per capita than does Canada, where it takes months just to get an MRI and patients rot in hospital hallways. You wanna fight Russia ? Then pony up the treasure to do it. Americans already have for generations.

U.S. meeting with Mexico again on NAFTA...without Canada.

That set the tone for what was to come following his 2015 election.

Just another indicator that Liberals and leftists are getting more and more shrill as time goes on.

Details like how they all share a mere few degrees of separation from each other...the shooter...Trudeau...Khadr...Boyle...the Muslim Brother dude writing apologies...the whole stinking lot. It stinks...it stinks...it stinks. ...and some like the smell.

From CBC...the state broadcaster. "Court records show Hussain's older brother had a troubled past including criminal charges and a connection to a home in Pickering, east of the city, where police seized 33 firearms and a large stash of the powerful illegal drug carfentanil." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/danforth-background-brother-records-1.4764742

Yes scribblet, I agree. Without this info we would have no idea what the Hussain's were up to. Thank you for having the courage to post it. As if there were not enough bullshit being flung around these by days. Even the "trusted" government seems to want to lie, and fool us.

Exactly, Obviously any source correct or not is horse sh.t if u don't agree with it, and yes, the Info. About the chemicals is fact. We dodged a bullet. https://globalnews.ca/news/2873243/rcmp-say-theyve-seized-unique-substance-more-lethal-than-fentanyl/amp/? And.. Chris Doucette of the TheTorontoSun reports 2 wks before the mass shooting a security guard saw FaisalHussain with a gun & called TorontoPolice who were apparently too busy to check it out. https://t.co/TV0OTIPApQ

Canada Free Press ... Happy to publish misleading information and deny science to support right wing and Christian agendas. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/canada-free-press/

That is a stunning link. Carfentanil in that quantity, 42 kg, could only be intended for use as a chemical weapon.

My guess is political interference is behind lack of information. .. Did we just dodge a 9.11. 2.0. https://canadafreepress.com/article/did-we-just-dodge-9-11-2.0

I expect Canadians will get a good tongue-lashing from him for causing this person to open fire on the public. Sort of like his "Canadians have no appreciation for Canada, only refugees appreciate Canada" speech for Canada's 150th Birthday - that was nice. Or maybe like his indignant speech to chastise Canadians immediately after the hijab-cutting hoax.

Immigration has for the most part, been handled well over the years - if only because immigrants plan their lives around coming here, are self-supporting, follow the process and are prepared to join our Canadian family. Asylum claimants on the other hand - for the most part - show up in Canada and require the full support of government to acquire the skills they need to live, work and even to survive in Canada. It's a tremendous responsibility for both the refugee and Canada. That is where Trudeau has been such a dismal failure. It takes a lot of planning to develop what should be a 5 year plan for refugees. The Federal government's current responsibility ends after one year - then they become the Provinces' responsibility. Trudeau's reckless open-border policy has been devoid of any such responsible plan - no consultation with the Provinces prior to his "irregular crossing" ignorance. Putting aside those many thousands that are simply economic migrants who should be immediately shooed back to the US - those that genuinely require our help are getting none from Trudeau - no plan - no funding - no support. Meanwhile, real refugees who are trying to escape persecution are left to linger even longer in squalid camps. There is no virtue in Trudeau's actions. He's hurting the people Canada should be helping. He and his backroom idealogues care only about votes. Their grasping of this issue is an attempt to paint Conservatives as heartless and uncaring. If handled properly, it will be the Liberals will be proven heartless. Trouble is, the CBC and The Star will be on the Trudeau bandwagon. Maybe hang some garlic to ward them off?

Perhaps you didn't fully read my post, which by implication suggests that Trudeau's credibility will probably be best served at this point by saying nothing. He has little or no right to pontificate on the Danforth fiasco by employing his usual preachy bromides. As Heather Mallick noted in her column in today's Toronto Star, the left has in the absence of a credible official explanation for the shooter's motives transformed the perpetrator into a victim while the right has essentially cast him as a terrorist. But, of the two extremes, which one is more defensible? Mallick casts the two views as equally problematic but I doubt that general public opinion does. Trudeau's government has thus far sided with the obscurantists, so he and his colleagues are part of the problem. That's a common sense conclusion. Obviously you've made you mind up on this topic, which presumably is why you don't appear to want to engage contributors who offer credible opinions on the other side. Your 'ad hominem' critique isn't credible.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/danforth-killer-twisted-trail-that-led-to-deadly-rampage No wonder we are skeptical of our politicians and security authorities.

No. We start with the observation, and then ask why this is such typical behavior throughout the Muslim world. In every Muslim nation. It is extremely atypical elsewhere, but entirely typical in Muslim nations. And then we suggest there is a link between such behavior and Islam (not far fetched). Then we examine the religious texts of Islam and we find much justification for the things people are doing, ie beheading and otherwise murdering those they consider to be insulting Islam or violating the tenets of Islamic law. We examine what Islam says about how to treat unbelievers, and find a great deal of support for violence against those who refuse to submit (Islam literally means submission). Again, it is hardly a leap to suggest the behavior is linked to the teachings of Islam. Hey, I might think the Amish are screwy, but they're not dangerous screwy, and they're not growing by leaps and bounds. I think "our" Muslims would eventually be influenced by Canada's more tolerant beliefs if given the chance to assimilate. But they're not getting that chance. A steady stream of tens of thousands of Muslims is immigrating here every year and bringing those hostile and backwards attitudes and beliefs with them. Saudi Arabia continues to 'generously' fund mosques and Islamic schools and community centres in Canada and even provide them with mullahs trained in Saudi Arabia and religious texts from Saudi Arabia. I think this has the potential to be extremely destabilizing as their numbers grow, and I think we need to greaterly lessen the number of Muslims coming from certain parts of the world, and review their social views before admitting them as immigrants. I also think we need to bar all Saudi money and require that prevent their mullahs from coming to work in Canada.

As a Canadian we spend Jack shit on defense. Seriously, we under fund the Forces at an almost criminal level. Pretty hard to spend less than almost nothing. As for the rest of your comment, well it's so juvenile it isn't even worth answering.