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Looking over that list of credits, I see many films where I didn't remember it was Bill Paxton. I didn't remember he was in Edge of Tomorrow, I forgot that he was in Aliens, Twister, Tombstone... Some actors, from the moment they appear on screen your brain goes "oh hey, it's Robert deNiro" (for example) and refuses to accept them as the character they're trying to portray. Bill Paxton was kind of the opposite. "Oh... the dumb-ass army-guy was Bill Paxton? I didn't even notice!" ... -k

Every time I click on thread page, the screen freezes while loading. What I do, I either had to click to the thread title or section to get out of it, and everything is fine. Why does it freezes like that?

http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/26/bill-paxton-dead-dies/ I'm saddened by the death of Bill Paxton. First noticed him on True Lies. Filmography: Movie Role(s) Year Term Life Detective Keenan / Detective Keenan 2016 Nightcrawler Joe Loder 2014 Edge of Tomorrow Master Sergeant Farell 2014 Million Dollar Arm Tom House 2014 Parkland Producer 2013 Red Wing Jim Verret 2013 The Colony Mason 2013 2 Guns Earl 2013 Shanghai Calling Donald 2013 Haywire Mr. Kane 2012 Haven Carl Ridley 2006 The Greatest Game Ever Played Director 2005 Magnificent Desolation: Walking on the Moon 3D 2005 Thunderbirds Jeff Tracy 2004 Club Dread Coconut Pete 2004 Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over Dinky Winks 2003 Spy Kids 2: The Island of Lost Dreams Theme Park Owner / Theme Park Owner 2002 Frailty Dad / Director 2002 Vertical Limit Elliot Vaughn 2000 U-571 Lt. Commander Mike Dahlgren 2000 Mighty Joe Young Gregg O'Hara 1998 A Simple Plan Hank 1998 Titanic Brock Lovett 1997 The Evening Star Jerry 1996 Twister Bill Harding 1996 The Last Supper Zack / Zack 1996 Apollo 13 Fred Haise 1995 True Lies Simon 1994 Tombstone Morgan Earp 1994 Indian Summer Jack Belston 1993 Boxing Helena Ray O'Malley 1993 Trespass Vince 1992 The Vagrant Graham Krakowski 1992 Predator 2 Jerry Lambert 1991 One False Move Dale "Hurricane" Dixon 1991 Navy SEALs Dane 1990 The Last of the Finest Howard "Hojo" Jones 1990 Brain Dead Jim Reston 1990 Back to Back Bo Brand / Bo Brand 1990 Next of Kin Gerald Gates 1989 Pass the Ammo Jesse Wilkes 1988 Near Dark Severen 1987 Aliens Pvt. Hudson 1986 Commando Intercept Officer / Intercept Officer 1985 The Terminator Punk Leader / Punk Leader 1985 Streets of Fire Clyde 1984 Stripes Soldier / Soldier 1981 Night Warning 1981 Weird Science Chet Donnelly Big Bad Mama Set Dresser Monolith Tucker Future Shock The Roommate / The Roommate The Dark Backward Gus The Groove Tube The Lords of Discipline Gilbreath / Gilbreath Crazy Mama John / John Mortuary Paul Andrews Impulse Eddie http://www.movies.com/actors/bill-paxton/bill-paxton-movies/p280952

It has always been the government controlling all of this, whatever "all of this" even means. There is nobody else. The funding part is very easy. It costs nothing if we get out of the places where we do not belong, where we never belonged.

You're the one with the answers. Can't believe I got sucked in another one of these discussions. The trouble with you truthers is you grab onto one thing like a dog with a bone and ignore everything else.

The Immigration Minister stated today he sees no discernable trend in a movement of illegals coming by land from the US. As the weather changes and the rates sky rocket as they will this summer, just like they do in the warm months in Europe, the Minister will be forced to acknowledge the problem he currently denies. The fact is we do not have sufficient Border or RCMP personnel. The fact is we do not have the facilities nor did our government anticipate this event. Our government was caught flat-foot. Trump has told Trudeau on Monday, its his problem if he doesn't block illegals from entering Canada. The stage is set and hey its no problem because Impact will be joined by Peter F, Trudeau and no doubt Eye in welcoming and settling the illegals in their homes. La La Land did not win the Oscar last night. But clearly Peter F wanted it to.

They didn't "retract". I appreciate if you pay attention to what you're responding to. The police officers have said that the filmmaker has lied in how he has edited the film: "The interview was about something completely different to what Fox News and Horowitz were talking about” Not only that, but the two cameraemn that worked with Ami Horowitz are also saying the same thing. Yet, you are not willing to accept that you're spreading fake news..

The point and example presented by the Windsor Tower steel beam construction fire and collapse are well known to any 911 conspiracy debate here and elsewhere. Passing dismissal of the WT fire reveals another agenda, as expected and experienced many times in yet another 911 topic.

But how is this conservative? How is that a conservative principle? The idea is pretty non-ideological and more so a populist proposal.

They accept him now because he has POWER. He couldn't even show his face in CPAC when he was running for office, they claimed he wasn't conservative enough and only Ted Cruz was. Are you forgetting that Trump is a globalist? Since when is Soros the only Globalist? Trump is a guy who turns a blind eye to Saudi terrorism because they let him build a few hotels and shoddy golf courses. Trump accepts money from foreign heads of states, this guy is globalist #1. The last thing we need is an unqualified fake billionaire 8 time bankrupt who doesn't know what he is doing running our country. Trump doesn't believe in America first, he believes in Donald first. If Trump believed in America first, he wouldn't declare bankruptcy against all those loans who owed to American banks, he'd try to pay his debt to society, he wouldn't have ducked the war in vietnam and the draft. He could have taken a desk job or a non-combat role like truck driver. Trump has only ever been trump first. You think Trump isn't giving away billions to foreigners? All you got to do is donate money to Trump to get anything. Trump is a fake and a phony, he ran as a life long liberal from nyc, and teflon don even said he'd run as a republican because republican voters are the stupidest and lowest iq and so easy to trick, sad part is he is right and the joke is on America. I am glad Canadians are not dumb enough to be fooled by a charlatan like that.

I have been having the same problem too. I have to turn off my computer, and start it up again. Why this is happening is beyond me. I wonder if anyone else is having the same problem?

Odd that so many major newspapers endorsed the Conservatives over the years when they thought Harper was so evil.

That's too bad, from what I understand something went wrong during a surgery. Always an actor that I enjoyed. The wife and I watched the first episode of his new TV reboot Training Day and thought it to be kinda bland......To be honest, Paxton was the only reason we bothered with a network drama.

One question that I want you to answer. Why do muslims come to Canada and force us to their way of thinking? I think the way muslim women are treated in their own country is appalling. Now they have the chance to change and they still live in their own primitive world. Why is that?

Watch the whole video, steel frame buildings totally engulfed in flames, for long hours; never before or since 9-11 has there been a collapse but three happened in NYC on one day. Absolutely preposterous! Watch specifically from 2:40 on where Scott Grainger, a Fire Protection engineer, will explain to you why your repeat of a myth from Popular Mechanics or some other non-expert is false. Fires Consume WTC 7-Size Skyscrapers, Buildings Do Not Collapse - 9/11/01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu6nADydep4

You have already been told the steel did not have to melt, that it would have weakened sufficiently to collapse under the weight at a much lower temperature.

I haven't heard one Conservative candidate talk about being anti-free trade. Has one of them?

How?

Ya, war was a very profitable experience for McCain. Unlike your draft avoiding hero, McCain was seriously wounded and spent six years in a North Vietnamese prison camp. If anyone does, he deserves a honourable retirement.

"Yup", your response above deliberately infers that all illegal migrants that come into Canada are refugees which is incorrect. "yup" your response that any detention of illegals means a concentration camp is illogical, without basis, hyperbolic and juvenile. I have not suggested nor do I condone ceoncentration camps and your attempt to suggest I or anyone else who thinks illegal migrants should be properly screened out of the system is a Nazi or Russian communist is an attempt to slur and name call rather than debate the issue. Next you again show your ignorance of immigration laws as they exist now in all your responses. To start with: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/reform-safe.asp We already stream and vet certain kinds of refugee claimants because of their high rate of rejection as the above shows. As the above states, our government came to the awareness that tgere are places in the world where it is less likely for a person to be persecuted compared to other areas. bu many people from these places were/are trying claim asylum in Canada, and are later found not to need protection. As the above Ministry comments state, too much time and too many resources were being spent on these unfounded claims. So the concept of Designated countries of origin (DCO) was created as a specific category and now includes countries that do not normally produce refugees, but do respect human rights and offer state protection. Go on educate yourself. Our country has had to address a flooding and abuse of our refugee process by streamlining out applicants from a designated list of countries and in the future it m ay add more. So the notion of creating a specific stream of treatment to differentiate applicants to help prevent an abuse and flooding of the system that can crash it, is done. Next you need to educate yourself how the safe third party rule works. You assume because Canada entered a specific one with the US and has not with other cuntryes none others exist. Wrong. How about you start with: rhttp://www.unhcr.org/3b39a2403.pdf The following countries honour this rule and say if a refugee applicant gets to their country first, they must apply in their state for refugee status and will not be permitted to state shop and skip through their country: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, UK, Norway, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Krugyzstan, Russia, Ukraine, Botswana. As well you can add Mexico, Argentina, New Zealand, Australia, Cyprus, Israel, Iceland, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, to that list because they won't allow so called refugees to country shop once they come to their countries. They so do voluntarily at this time without any formal agreement. Now since 2002, Canada has had 2 methods for taking in refugees. The first is the resettlement program for refugees determined outside Canada through government or private sponsorship. Since 95% of refugees are not capable of travelling too far because they have no money and have fled with nothing, they end up in camps. If we were genuinely concerned about taking in ONLY genuine refugees, we would simply use the above route. Stephen Harper encouraged private sponsorship of refugees from outside Canada. He did so because in this manner the genuine status of refugees could be determined outside Canada avoiding cost and wasted facilities and create proper priority to get to them based on urgency. By being doing it through private sponsors, i.e., churches, there was a guarantee such refugees would not become a burden on the state. .In fact the dishonest Justin Trudeau posed with the private sponsored refugees Stephen Harper arranged, and took credit for bringing them into Canada along with his Immigration Minister and Kathleen Wynne who used these Syrian refugees as props, trained monkeys posing as grateful unwashed savages being patted on the head and given winter coats and told, when they saw all the food spread out for them on tables, and were given more food then they were used to eating, not to wory they were in Canada now and they could just throw what they didn't want in the garbage. Talk about ignorant, patronizing, condescending behaviour. Oh look let's give the monkeys some food, pose them and then waste the food in front of their eyes. What did it ever occur to Justin that someone who had not seen such amounts of food would be shocked to see them being told food would be wasted and thrown out and to take more than they needed and just leave the rest for garbage. Would Justin the privileged rich boy understand the psychological consequence of such a message. Right. cont. next post

Soft as butter... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

That doesn't explain how WTC7 fell at free fall speed for 8 floors, 105 feet, for 2.5 seconds. Free fall speed is impossible without a controlled demolition. A controlled demolition on one tower means a controlled demolition on all three towers. Vaporized steel, requiring 5,000+F means that the hujackers didn't cause the collapse of the three towers. Who could have? Who had access to superthermite/nanothermite?

Cool story. I was told by an Arab that all Israelis are thieves and not to be trusted. I was also told by a First Nation aborginial that all white men steal land and rape women. Any relevance? None. Except when it comes to prejudice itself.

The media has their own agenda. You've not figured that out by now?

Just don't go expand the topic beyond the strict confines of the OP and you'll be all right.

Such information only supports the fact that the alleged hijackers have been falsely accused, Betsy. You do understand the significance of the molten steel, molybdenum, ..., don't you?

An engineer investigating the remains of the World Trade Center sees melted girders and other evidence that the towers experienced extreme temperatures on 9/11. Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl is a professor of civil and environmental engineering at the University of California, Berkeley. He later recalls, “I saw melting of girders in [the] World Trade Center.” [PBS, 5/10/2007] He notes that steel has bent at several connection points that had joined the floors of the WTC to the vertical columns. He describes the connections as being smoothly warped, saying, “If you remember the Salvador Dali paintings with the clocks that are kind of melted—it’s kind of like that.” He adds, “That could only happen if you get steel yellow hot or white hot—perhaps around 2,000 degrees.” [CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION, 12/7/2001] Astaneh-Asl says that steel flanges have been reduced “from an inch thick to paper thin.” [BERKELEYAN, 10/3/2001] He finds a foot-long twisted shard of steel that is “like a piece of bread, but it was high-strength steel.” He comments, “I haven’t seen anything like this [before].” [BERKELEY DAILY PLANET, 10/20/2001] He finds “severely scorched [steel] members from 40 or so floors below the points of impact [by the planes].” He believes this is the result of the planes having destroyed the elevator walls, thereby allowing burning jet fuel to pour down into the building, igniting fires hundreds of feet below the impact floors. [CBS NEWS, 3/12/2002] Astaneh-Asl sees a charred I-beam from WTC Building 7, which collapsed late in the afternoon of 9/11. “The beam, so named because its cross-section looks like a capital I, had clearly endured searing temperatures. Parts of the flat top of the I, once five-eighths of an inch thick, had vaporized.” [NEW YORK TIMES, 10/2/2001] Other individuals will report seeing molten metal in the remains of the World Trade Center in the weeks and months after 9/11 (see September 12, 2001-February 2002), and data collected by NASA reveals dozens of “hot spots” (some over 1,300 degrees Fahrenheit) at Ground Zero (see September 16-23, 2001). But Thomas Eagar—an engineering professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology—later comments that the “temperature of the fire at the WTC [on 9/11] was not unusual, and it was most definitely not capable of melting steel.” [EAGAR AND MUSSO, 12/2001] Yet Astaneh-Asl will later put forward the “tentative” conclusion, “The collapse of the [Twin Towers] was most likely due to the intense fire initiated by the jet fuel of the planes and continued due to burning of the building contents.” [ASTANEH-ASL, 11/30/2003 ] Astaneh-Asl is a member of the team assembled by the American Society of Civil Engineers to investigate the World Trade Center site after 9/11 (see September 12, 2001), though he will resign from this because he disagrees with its decision to keep findings secret until the initial inquiry has been completed. [NEW YORK TIMES, 10/2/2001; ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/6/2002] http://www.historycommons.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=molten+metal+Abolhassan+Astaneh&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go

Yes. They are muslims.

What blacksmiths do is of no consequence to the issue at hand. According to the official US government account, the only possibility was of fuels that can attain a maximum of 1,800F. Supporters of the official story actually describe much lower maximum fire temperatures. [1,382 - 1,472F] "However, it is highly unlikely that the steel at the WTC experienced temperatures above the 750–800°C range." http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html These molten metals of the variety found at WTC should not have been there, ie. there was no legitimate/legal reason for them to be there. That in and of itself, makes the official story false.

Forum guidelines suggest: "If you are not bringing anything new to the argument, then do not say anything at all."

I think we should address the science and the actual issues raised. The implications are daunting, I know.

So many that were arrested were from North Africa. Does this mean that not all Muslims are alike?

Why should we believe the police and the cameramen? Why shouldn't we? Who is pressuring them? You want these anti-Muslim fake stories to be true so much that you're willing to go as far as to say that the policemen are lying and the people who shot the films are lying. You have no credibility.

This turned out to be another fake story. Just like the "Bowling Green Massacre" story. I hope the following information will stop you from spreading more fake stories, Betsy: The policemen who were interviewed say this: Two Swedish police officers were interviewed in the film. Anders Göranzon and Jacob Ekström answered questions about how weapons are becoming more accessible. Horowitz also asked the officers about how crime has spread through cities. But the police officers now say that their answers were taken out of context, and are very critical of how their comments were portrayed on Fox News ”Tucker Carlson Tonight”. ”I don’t understand why we are a part of the segment. The interview was about something completely different to what Fox News and Horowitz were talking about”, says Anders Göranzon. The cameramen who filmed Ami Horowitz shoot the films also say that he has created a false narrative: Swedish freelance cameramen Emil Marczak and Jakob Bjelfvenstam both helped Ami Horowitz make his short documentary ”Stockholm syndrome”. Speaking to newspaper Dagens Nyheter, the cameramen said Horowitz's questioning in his interviews and his editing of the footage showed a clear bias toward linking immigrants to Sweden to crime. Marczak helped Horowitz interview two police officers about crime in Stockholm. Since the film's release, both officers have distance them from the piece and Marczak said the raw footage supports their concerns. "I would never have participated if I had known how unethically and frivolously the material would be edited. To double check that my memory is correct I have gone through the raw material and it confirms the policemen’s view of the course of events”, Marczak told the newspaper.

Do you think Hitler might have been a convert to Islam?

It's got everything to do with it. Considering the so called journalism that got the US into Iraq back in 2006. Even back then the main stream media was engaging in fake news.

Shame is something you feel about your own actions, embarrassment is is something you feel about how others view your actions.

I ask because it's rumoured to be added. Your seeming unawareness of this proves you don't follow what's going on very closely But yeah, I know. Obama made a list of countries he said were a threat. Apparently Trump is adding to it. What's your point? Are you saying nations are exempt if Trump does sufficient business there?

Stupid is as stupid does - as I said actions speak loudest.

Why listen to real facts, when you have complete idiots like Steve Emerson with alternative facts to listen to.

Don't worry you come thru loud and clear and there's no ambiguity whatsoever.

No. It's biases based on understanding and principles. Your.s OTOH appear to be based on pure crap.

I did. I say screw Argus' concerns if that's what it takes for Canada to show a backbone in the face of a grotesque bully.

/facepalm I'm saying /facepalm. Why did you always need to have things repeated to you?

Well, judging by the state of affairs abroad you were obviously no good at so why not him? Resisting tyranny is always worth it. I do think we used to get a bigger bang for our buck back in our grandparents day though.

Until it stops, the denial of western complicity is really the most germane point at the core of most of the bandwidth this forum has used. I see no end in sight to that.

It is understandable however that's not what I was saying.

Argus doesn't know what he's talking about. Muslim violence followed the descent of the Anglo-American Empire into savage interference in the Muslim world. The anti-Islamic rhetoric is simply a part and parcel of western denial of any complicity and wrong doing on our part.

How can Ontario continue on this path? Yes, the Ontario Liberals have promised to balance the budget in 2018 but I think we all can agree that this will be done with voodoo economics combined with this new cap and trade gouging that will do little if nothing towards lowering emissions but will continue to hurt all classes of people in this province. Even in the evil days of Ernie Eves, he knew enough to back off the selling of hydro one. Wynne raised the bar on corruption in Ontario politics and I am praying to whatever God that might maybe listening to completely wipe these individuals out.

Stop making it sound like this wasn't all pointed out to you folks 15 years or more ago - back when right-wing conservatives were complicit in cheering for the policies that would create the world we're in.