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But I don't see how much of what Eisenhower advocated for(be cautious of the mentality, use it or lose it, to financially support industry) has anything to do with your lack of support for your own military, as some vets on this forum pointed out, you're putting their lives in jeopardy because of some misguided belief that you shouldn't spend money on the MIC. Eisenhower would turn over in his grave had he seen how his word would be interpreted to the detriment of fellow service members.

Then stop whining about it and stay on topic. Go start a thread on Syria so the world can ignore that too.

Canadians are pretty much American. The problem is that they just won't admit it. They like to pretend that they are different from Americans but in what way are they different? No one seems to be able to explain this? Even being a white Canadian nationalist like myself(sometimes I have to wonder about that)knows and will admit to this that everything I do is pretty much American. What i would really would like to see is our Canadian dollar go bye-byes and we start using the American dollar. It's getting to expensive to visit America these days thanks to our dam Canadian peso.

Yeah I reported and moved on. Nothing good with come from this poster. And we simply have enough of this asshatery on this forum.

DOP would sure be proud of our new member wouldn't be?

President Trump just rolled into Brussels on his big honking 747....he surely will take some time to criticize NATO deadbeats like Canada and Germany. Meeting Putin will be a lot more fun !

Today, the story of Sweden is rapidly changing , from a neutral country to one that is pressing to become a NATO member, a country that is already allowing NATO forces to exercise with in Sweden's own borders, and it has also taken part in NATO lead missions such as Afghanistan, Bosnia, etc...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_neutrality Canada has played an important role in most British lead expeditions, Boar war, WWI, WWII, along with the occupation forces of Europe assisting in the rebuilding of Germany, but also as a low tier contributor to NATO including NAVAL, AIR, and Ground forces up until the 1990's....lets not forget about our contributions to a full Brigade group to NORWAY, still ongoing although on a smaller scale. I'd say it is a little unfair to say Canada our role was confined to WWII. Canada does have forces in Latvia, still part of Europe I think....although it is a small role we are still there, Canada could have a much larger role if it had the forces to man it. Lets remember we disbanded an entire brigade group once we left Germany in the 90's . Canada has made up it's own mind on all it's mission it has undertaken, IE we did not take part in the Iraq invasion, although we do have combat forces there now. for the most part our interests foreign and domestic are linked...yes Canadians have made it part of our Canadian identity to be anything but American, but we are more alike than what separates us....and that pisses Canadians off. The last thing we need is big brother telling us what to do....right, or maybe we have reached that point were we need someone telling us ….get you shit together.... Canada has more than one enemy or threat to our nation , I spent 34 years in the military listening to thousands of intel briefs, not one of them listed the USA as a enemy...most if not all listed the US as being an allied, it also listed close allies as being the UK, Australia, New Zealand, all one has to do is look at the defensive treaties we have signed on to and these names will come up over and over....as will our nations threats.... What does a Civil defense force look like, how is it equipped, and what job does it have, how is it funded....Lots of questions...neutrality and a defense force to ensure it stays neutral is not cheap ask the SWISS.

If England wins the tournament we'll hear about it for next 52 years. However, seems that there is no fear of that happening as the French seem to be above everyone else. Rather France than Brazil for me anyday. When Brazil gets knocked out any tournament is saved.

It's not really a valid comparison because if you have a fire your insurance will likely cover the cost of most or all your damages after you cover the deductible. With defense, on the other hand, there's a substantial difference in scale to consider. The scale of the military forces we might confront, including the U.S. or Russia, are so vastly greater than anything this country can afford as to render military spending tokenism. If we were really to face an attack from another country, which is a very remote possibility in any case, we'd likely be defenseless even if we were to double or triple our current military spending. If you want to continue with the insurance analogy, maintaining a large military defensive capability would in Canada's case be like having an insurance policy were you could only pay to cover 10 or 15 percent of potential damages. In the modern era, there is really only one strategy that permits smaller nations to gain any military leverage, which is acquiring and maintaining nuclear weapons. Canada certainly has the technological capability to do this, but are we willing to do it?

Sorry if I jumped on you.... Like I said before, so many stupidity getting posted. Who would've thought that reacting to this nail-biter would draw posters like Marcus and Hudson - attacking those who'd responded with concern - therefore, your intended sarcasm was lost in "translation" - especially after my jubilant hooyah. My fault.

A declining population is a good thing. With the technological revolution taking place, we need fewer people in the work force. A lower population means you can buy a house in Vancouver, not have great swaths of wilderness destroyed by logging and maybe even have more clean powder for a longer period in winter.

From hypocrisy to unintentional comedy.

That cave is now known around the world. I won't be surprised if some idiots enter the cave out of curiosity and get stuck. Blast the whole thing to smithereens.

When you attack a person wrongly - it's nobody's fault but your own.

You totally didn't get the Sapper dude's irony.

WHOOOOOOOOOOSH! Right over your head.

Agreed...lots of fun to watch them squirm. They will fight back by boycotting Heinz ketchup...again.

The Trump populist movement already started to seep it's way into Canada and Europe, looking at the political upheaval is making me weep with tears of freedom. America is kicking the commie liberals out of power.

Doesn't matter...Ike was yet another American president with the power to dominate the Canadian psyche...just like all the rest. Right now it is Trump, and he is driving Canada nuts !

When Ike had the power to curtail defense spending, he did the exact opposite. Ike was no snowflake....hated commies like a good American should.

Actually, Eisenhower presided over the largest post-WW2 increases in U.S. defense spending, mostly for the Cold War...talk is cheap....weapons are not.

What? Are you jealous cause I haven't "liked" your comments here? Try facebook, you might have more luck there.

...but they love to get jobs from U.S. defence subcontractors, especially in Canada (Quebec/Ontario). Praise the Lord...and pass the ammunition.

Haven't you been paying attention ? "White Knights" are part of the problem.

I think this quote is particularly apt. Public opinion/support is crucial to maintaining the legitimacy of any important public policy, immigration included. I'm not sure why self-styled "progressives" (or liberals, as they're often described in the U.S., where the term often has a different connotation than here in Canada) believe that immigration should be treated any differently. I suspect many of these people simply don't understand history, including the struggles of ordinary people to put in place and maintain public social security programs, like pensions and health care, to enhance and sustain their own stability. Most people are generally willing to pay relatively high taxes to support this system provided they have some assurance it will benefit them when they need it to. It's the foundation of the modern "social contract" that emerged in one form or another in all Western countries in the 20th century. Over the past few decades the social security systems in many Western countries have been diminished and many feel public resources have been redirected to serve other purposes, including the maintenance of permanent subsidy classes. Prominent economists, including Sir Paul Collier and the late Milton Friedman, among others, have noted that open or large-scale immigration undermines social solidarity and erodes the viability of welfare or social security policies. Maintaining strong borders is crucial to sustaining both wages and social supports. Friedman preferred open borders and was willing to sacrifice the welfare system. But, as he noted, a dual policy of open borders and maintaining strong social supports is irrational and unsustainable. Our political and economic elites scoff at these concerns because they're not greatly impacted by them. But ordinary voters aren't as cavalier. And they have a right to their say as long as our countries continue to function as democracies. Contrary to the prevailing liberal/progressive view, for most voters this is not about racism. It's about maintaining the decent working conditions and social safety nets many have worked long and hard to sustain. Voters will support politicians who reflect and/or share their concerns. It's common sense.

....and those debts are mounting...... Every time he opens his mouth is to announce more spending..........that is, when he's not responding to the groping allegation.

Justin Trudeau announced the "death" of nationalism in his "post-national" Canada. Well guess what Trudeau is stoking today against Trump's tariffs ? Canadian nationalism.....

Can't do the time, don't do the crime

Here's a fact. If they were sent to the gas chamber upon conviction they would'nt be a repeat offender.

I'd say nationalism is at least one of the declines last legs - it's resurfaced for that reason. That's not a new idea either btw.