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The Washington Post is broadening their horizons or it's a paradigm, shift. Black-clad antifa members attack peaceful right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley

As one media article put it, if a sports stadium, and tent cities in Lacolle and Cornwall full of illegal asylum seekers are signs that the system is working and the situation is under control, what would failure of the system look like?

When Marcus comes on the forum and engages in his repeat piss on Israel threads and responses, its not whining. When you come on this thread and express an opinion he disagrees with its whining. Now that said, by the time Community Leaders are stuck with the negative impact of poorly thought out immigration policy its too late. The time to discuss such issues is long before it becomes a community issue or even an actual immigration policy.Idiots like Trudeau don't think. They spit out whatever sound bite sounds good at the moment to pander to a potential voter and then delegative any negative consequence of what they said to another layer of government other than their own. Its why provinces develop isolationist tendencies. They see people like Trudeau and his version of government working at direct cross purposes to their best interests and he does. When you get big city Mayors claiming to be sanctuary cities its crass politics at its worse. Their mayors see the influx of immigrants as potential voters to pander to and a source to get federal funding. At the provincial level it causes huge negative consequences to education and health services because of the sky rocketing demand for both and an inability to keep up with the demand without increasing taxes since the federal government does not provide funding for health, education or even municipal needs. I argue immigration is not the issue-the size of how many you take in, the time period in which you give to assimilate them may be. Immigration is not the issue-the kind of immigrants you bring in, can be. How you define the KIND of immigrant that will be most likely to contribute and build not drag down and weaken your society is a tough one. Any attempt at defining criteria is going to be questioned as unfair by potential immigrants and too lenient by pre-existing Canadians. As well you can create all the criteria you want, but it means nothing if as I s the case now, you have a Prime Minister like Trudeau, who ignores it. Trudeau has completely ignored existing immigration laws add welcomed illegal migrants telling them to just illegally cross the border. His speeches are clearly coded to tell migrants to come while at the same time trying to sound like he's not saying this to non immigrant Canadians. Its not working. That double speak is not working. On the day he supposedly said he was sending someone who was sending someone Haitiens to Florida to explain Canadian immigration laws, he also showed up at a Tamil community photoop stating again everyone was welcome to come to Canada. Trudeau is engaged in a deliberate premeditated policy of ethnic pandering. His handlers have said the next vote will be won getting the ethnic vote from cities and that is what Trudeau is counting on and cultivating. The problem with that kind of ethnic pandering is two things. It creates a passive aggressive reaction not openly expressed but is just beneath the surface. Its like pus that builds up under a wound. That build up if not relieved grows and the longer it grows, the more infectious it becomes spreading and when it then does erupt it causes far much more damage than if you had dealt with it quickly at the get go and the first signs of problems. Its far too late after you create a tent city to then pretend you can keep taking people in. Its too late. The damage is done. The race conflicts now start. They start off with rallies of extreme left and right wingers at gatherings and then these demos grow in size and place and rate. All this time, the issue is not being addressed. You have Trudeau prancing about telling people all is fine and immigration can come unlimited. Then the unthinkable happens. Someone shoots someone, a car goes in a crowd, that repeats a copy cat incident and so on. If we are or were to take in immigrants of any kind, why did this government not anticipate or react to or have preparations in place when Trump said what he did? How did Trudeau address his desire to increase refugees? He never increased funding to the Refugee and Hearings Board or refugee centres and he never increased funding so that non profit organizations and churches deal with the increased amounts. Now he has a tent city which is a direct result of doing nothing. He had one phony photo op meeting last week and didn't even sit at the table of his alleged meeting instead prancing about for photo ops and then leaving never discussing the issue.

They come out because the Left is easily outraged, and rarely asks for confirmation or evidence to support the logic of their outrage. This is five right wing attempts to hold some sort of rally since Charlottesville. None were racist, all were, in fact, avowedly not-racist, not Nazis, not fascists, not white supremacists. All were attacked by mobs of leftist thugs who accused them of being fascists, racists, and Nazis.

Exactly - these black face covered thugs are not simply opposing racism, they are opposing pretty much anyone or anything they disagree with. A small peaceful protest by people against Marxism is fodder for their violence and thuggery. Journalists are attacked and brutally beaten because they don't want their violence recorded. The hypocrisy and double standard here are alarming. http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/24/armed-antifa-group-calls-for-revolution-seizing-property-and-violence-against-police/

A lot IMO, I have seen screen shots of the ad on Craig's List and other articles about it, I have no doubt that there are paid protesters. Having said that, the U.S. has a real problem with political violence more so now with the alt-left groups such as ANTIFA, but the hypocrisy and double standards around the reporting on this is astounding. ANTIFA are nothing but black clad face covered thugs who are in reality the actual fascists here. Take Berkeley yesterday http://nationalpost.com/news/world/hooded-anarchists-storm-through-police-ranks-at-berkeley-rally-assault-five-people BERKELEY, Calif. — Black-clad anarchists on Sunday stormed into what had been a largely peaceful Berkeley protest against hate and attacked at least five people, including the leader of a politically conservative group who cancelled an event a day earlier in San Francisco amid fears of violence. Snip Berkeley police chief Andrew Greenwood defended how police handled the protest, saying they made a strategic decision to let the anarchists enter to avoid more violence I guess their strategic decision didn't work out.

I wasn't sure where this belonged, but as the internet is now a form of entertainment, and is having a profound impact on our culture, I decided this was the place. I also thought it might liven this site up just a small bit if people would post the interesting, amusing, entertaining or weird things they'd come across on YouTube. Sometimes this can be an old concert from decades past, or a scuffle between protestors and police. It can be a screwed up news report, a comedy piece, or some bit of human drama you'd never find elsewhere.

I bet people who shopped at Whole Foods and thought they were getting what they paid for feel silly now that their new owner, Amazon, has dropped pricing by 43% in the first day.

Why do you need to educate COMMUNITY LEADERS? Educate them about what? Are they the ones who's trying to cross the border? Maybe, community leaders know more than Trudeau! What mature, and educated leader doesn't realize the outcome of what Trudeau had issued? Even some of us here, knew enough what to expect the moment he issued that invitation! If I'm a whiner to you...... .........it's because there's something really serious to whine about! UNNECESSARY EXPENDITURES! This PM has created a big boondogle when he decided to be twitter-happy with a big fat invitation for all - in his attempt to make himself look good in comparison to Trump. And then, he opened his big mouth on Canada Day, and re-issued another open invitation! If it hasn't occured to you yet..... we're all paying for his VACUOUS decisions!

You are one of the biggest whiners I have seen on any board. The importance of the trip to the U.S. to meet community leaders in order to educate them on the refugee system aside, It's not like it was a secret that Trudeau was going to spend money. He made it known that he was going to spend money during his first few years and that this was going to be his approach. His party ended up getting elected on this platform..

You are correct. Shouldn't be trusted. Them A-rabs are all against us white folks.

The problem with this is that you assume Islam teaches it's adherents to murder people for being gay and for being apostate. Yet, my sister, her husband and all her in-laws believe firmly believe that the only justification for killing someone else is if they attack first. That means that while they may disapprove of homosexuality, or apostasy, they would not support killing people for it. So your preferred screening shuts out those who are not fanatics by your definition. It's as logical as a feminist promoting the idea that all men should be castrated because some men rape.

I already answered that - I"m not interested in extremism. Your posts reflect a more divisive approach to politics than mine do, IMO, so I'm not surprised you would march beside extremists. Again - I wouldn't.

Ok. If I was marching beside somebody with a sign that said "kill capitalists" I would stop. I'm not being paid to spread a message of hate, and wouldn't do so voluntarily.

If you were marching beside people who were chanting racist slogans and had their arm in the air, would you continue to march beside them ? If you did, wouldn't you expect people to think you were on the same team ?

I have found that references to George Soros and paid protesters are a good litmus test to find out if you're debating with someone who is grounded in reality or if they have gone off the deep end into full batshit Infowars land---in which case, the debate is already over.

Parody about Trump, set to the Sounds of Silence. Enjoy! Unless you like Trump, then you'll have to weep.

Your questions have nothing to do with what I said so go fetch your own cites.

So annoying when old people want to sit down.

I was uncomfortable with guys who were too much younger or older than me. I'd say within 5 years either way was my comfort zone. Lots of guys look for women significantly younger, 10+ years. I think there's a psychological effect when someone joins a dating site; they see all those people and have an unconscious assumption that they'll be able to pick and choose any one of those people and get a positive response. When that doesn't happen, they are disappointed and some become bitter. They seem to forget that other people have preferences too, and assume the fault is with the other person (or the entire other gender) rather than their expectations. I spent about 3.5 years online dating, contacted probably 100s of guys, dated about 40 either once or for a few weeks, and met two with long-term potential for me. You have to go in with the attitude that you will "meet" lots of people - most of whom won't be suitable for some reason - and a very few who will be. Most of my experiences were positive, but that was probably because I didn't expect too much from any single encounter. For anyone seriously considering joining a dating site, don't put in your profile these kinds of statements: "Liars need not apply", "only serious responses", "cheaters stay away", etc. This doesn't persuade the ill-intentioned to ignore you, instead it tells them that you have been taken advantage of previously and might be worth a shot to take advantage of again.

The fact remains: at the start of the meeting, you had all sorts of ideas being stated...Madagascar...Palestine...etc. Heydrich informed them that train had long left the station since the US entered the war. I'm sorry if you find actual history disturbing.

I of course won't respond directly to the poster who stated the above as he does not have the capability of understanding what I was referring to and so comes back spewing gibberish that has nothing to do with what I was discussing in an attempt to do what he does, bring attention to himself. The topic I was discussing is classic liberalism and whether it does any good for anyone. I referred to how classic liberal thought advocates government spending and incurring deficits as a method of stimulating the economy. Here is the actual debt: http://www.debtclock.ca/ Here is the government spending and Trudeau's contribution to the deficit: https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/government-spending What I stated is that Trudeau is running up a huge deficit estimated at 50 billion for 2016 and 2017 and has said h e will continue to do so after that. This deficit spending is classic and perfect example of the liberal idea that governments can solve problems by running up debts to stimulate the economy. Liberals believe in government spending and its a classic example of thinking such an exercise benefits people and its what Eye and Omni and leftists believe in. What others like myself and many others argue is that when governments spend to "boost" he economy as they claim it does, they also "boost" the interest rates on the debt the escalate. The effect of those escalating interest rates many of us argue do more harm to the economy than any short term stimulation of the economy because they direcly lead to increases in the cost to borrow money for you and I whether its for our businesses, home mortgages or on our credit cards, car loans. Its also a fact that government spending is not something that can be sustained, so necessarily it has a 1, 2 maybe 3 year impact if nay, enough to get a politician re-elected but far from being able to create changes that allow the economy to continue to sustain itself without the continued government spending. When public interest rates increases the cost of private sector borrowing which doesn't stimulate economic growth but does the exact opposite. For every dollar our governments spend us into deficit, up goes, our borrowing costs as individuals goes up and this means government spending is triggering putting each individual Canadian into deeper debt on their private financial matters whether it be business, or domestic purchases, mortgages, credit cards. This is why I and many business people or common every day Canadians do not believe government spending is a panacea as liberals do. We believe it is causing great harm to future generations who necessarily inherit huge carrying costs on loans, i.e., interest rates. Your run up any debt for short term gain, of course their are long term consequences and this is why many of us argue for example putting Haitiens in tents and on welfare like all liberal fixes, is temporary and feel good in the moment, but in the long term solves, nothing an din fact makes it worse by failing to do the right thing which is not going to be feel good but may be necessary. Politicians don't get elected doing the right thing-they get elected saying the right thing-feel good messages Trudeau and Trump got elected telling people what they wanted to hear, not what they had to hear. The deficits the Ontario government has incurred in the name of liberal spending is a fiscal disaster. The exodus of businesses from Ontario is public and is well know. Ontario has gone from a have to have not province precisely because of deficit financing between the NDP and Liberals. Bankrupting Ontario has not done a damn thing for the poor or to rectify injustice as Eye would say. More people have ended up at fod banks during the McGuinty-Wynne era than in the Harris era, ironically. . .

Muslim morning after kit.

Good for you. The problem with Palestine as with much of the Middle East that it was a manufactured solution resulting from the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and colonialism. I Complicated by the reality that both Israelis and Palestinians have valid claims. I don't know if they will ever sort it out peacefully.

Ya well, Taxme's buddies in Charlottesville are keeping the faith. Let's see, how many wars have there been in the Middle East since 1947?

I don't deny it at all. I'm just not consumed by it. The Germans also elected Hitler as their political leader who made National Socialism a religion.

No, I am pointing out your fixation with the Mufti who was only one of many from different religions and other groups who collaborated with the Nazis against the Jews.

That's right...everybody is a Nazi except you.

Do I detect a similarity to Taxme, who won't explain how he would turn his white nationalist fantasies into reality?

Not applicable. I am not married.

Right, because it's something you would love to see. Muslims shot in the streets. Don't deny it Doggy!

You won't get a straight answer from him at all. He does not like to do that.

How about you tell me what I prefer since you seem to know what I think all the time. Would you put one or two in the back of their head? Or would you prefer the Saudi way and lop the head off with a sword?

Right, that never stopped you from doing the same to other members. Do you prefer a pistol or a rifle to shoot them with?

Doggy would love nothing more to see Muslims taken out to the street and shot in the back of the head.

Hate baiting? This is called TROLLING.

You sound more like a Nazi than anyone I've encountered here so far.

You mean the people who are most honest about their racism? These surveys may not be complete junk but they're not far off. For example, where are the Chinese, a notoriously racist group? I can't imagine that India and Pakistan would be so different either. Wealthier, better educated interviewees know what the right answers are and give them. Survey Canadians and you'll think racism has been all but abolished in this fair land. One of my South Asian relatives preferred South African whites to Canadians on this subject because they got the truth from them.

The open secret about the Canadian refugee system is that there are middle-men involved, sometimes in the original country, sometimes here. Often they're 'new Canadians' who call themselves immigration advisors. Sometimes they're immigration lawyers and their assistants. And these people provide a boiler plate statement to the refugee, telling him or her, in essence, what sort of story to tell to get themselves approved. Remember that there is almost never any actual proof of direct persecution, so it's mostly if the applicant claims to be persecuted and can come up with a credible statement and lies convincingly he or she is often allowed to stay.

Haiti reminds me a bit of the Rhodesia/Zimbabwe-episode. Anyone realises what has gone wrong in both cases but it is not politically correct to say it out loud.

Eyeball in my view only has disdain for the idiots. And there are a lot of idiots.

People are entitled to defend themselves and instigators of violence should be condemned no matter which side they are on. However, the denial that Trump and others aren't engaged in moral equivalence is laughable. A: Good people do not march with Nazis for any reason. B: If you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas, and every other cliche which states you should expect to be associated with the people you associate with. C: Whether someone is a "moderate" white nationalist or an "extreme" white nationalist, both believe that whites are entitled to a special status in society that no other race can ever attain. The only difference might be the lengths they are prepared to go in order to attain that status. Arbeit Macht Frei.

She should resign. There is no room for leaders who call for violence.

Thanks for 'speaking' for me. It's really appreciated. Again, I am no anti-semite. And I am not pissing all over ALL Jews/Isrealis. I have not got the time NOR the money to travel there to piss on each and every one of them. Fuck off.