Karmelo Anthony is going to get Murder 1 prepare for the riots

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

I understand the laws quite well. I gave you the component parts of the law.

In terms of location, you do not have a duty to retreat from or avoid conflict if you have a legal right to be there. Legally, Anthony was clear to exist under that canopy. 

Karmelo's response was neither proportional nor reasonable. Not from "the way it sounds to us", and not from "the way it appeared to all of the witnesses at the scene."

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And no, you are incorrect about Metcalf as well. It is not reasonable--or legal--to batter someone simply because you don't want them to be in a public place.

You're talking about sports, and tradition, in the USA.

Talk to the other team's bench and see what happens. Celebrate too much after scoring and see what happens. Throw a couple pitches too close to opposing players' heads and see what happens. Skate across the center line during the pre-game and see what happens. Throw a jersey for your own team on the floor and see what happens.

If you just get a push, consider yourself lucky. 

Athletes are territorial, and pushing is accepted. Even in soccer, the biggest b1otch sport of all, people can push. But you can't stab in soccer. Not even in lacrosse, and that sport is crazier than hockey.

I ask you: could a Yale rower just walk in and hang out in a Harvard tent? Guys from those schools are theoretically America's foremost gentleman in that age group, but there will absolutely be a push. 100%. That being said, the chance that there won't be a stabbing is also 100%. And if by some miracle there was, even the whitest stabber killing the blackest victim would be found guilty of murder. You just can't murder people for a push. Even in Texas.

 

And honestly... who brings a fkn crocodile Dundee knife to a rowing event, or a track meet? It seems a bit pre-meditated, even if that's notwithstanding the fact that it's just "100% legal".

Edited June 11 by WestCanMan

[Hodad]

53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Hodad: you're being a bit of an acceptance filter for everything from the Martin/Karmelo POV and a total rejection filter from the Zimmerman/Metcalfe POV.

The stories weren't the same at all, yet you're trying to draw a 100% parallel.

1) Zimmerman didn't shoot Trayvon because of a light shove, he was (allegedly) surprise-attacked while he was walking back to his car. That's the only version of the story in existence, so a jury had no choice but to rule based on that (aka - the only) version of the story.

2) Karmelo had every opportunity in the world to choose a less murdery path, and his response to a shove was the exact opposite of proportional, or reasonable. If his standard became the rule, then people with concealed knives and guns could run rampant on society. Any kid that had two friends with him could say "Hodad shoved me", and if his witnesses agreed, they could get away with killing you. Your standard is just ridiculous.

 

Obama's quote: "When Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago." 

That's his quote. Verbatim. And it's what's known as a snuck premise. Only in this instance, it's more like a "diabolically divisive snuck premise that laid the groundwork for racial violence that was justified in advance by the president." 

Think about it: if Obama's version of the story was correct (which 99% of demonrats would assume) that means that if a younger version of himself was really just out buying Skittles, and then ran into Zimmerman while he was just humming politely to himself of the way home, he couldn't possibly have survived because he was black, and Zimmerman was out looking for a black to shoot. 

I don't buy it. I think that if a young Barack Obama was walking through that neighbourhood, minding his own business, he would have been fine. His risk of ending up being shot would have been zero. 

Was it safe for white people to walk around in the US after Obama's racially divided presidency?

• Four individuals were convicted and sentenced in 2017 and 2018 for the racially charged kidnapping and torture of an 18-year-old white man with special needs in Chicago. The January 2017 incident drew nationwide outrage after a 28-minute video of the abuse was broadcast on Facebook Live.

A 28-minute torture video. Think about that. Where did the justification [in their minds] come from? Do you think it had nothing to do with the BS M Brown narrative? Or Obama's assertion that Trayvon was just killed by a racist and white folk didn't care?

I think that's impossible, because "the BS M Brown narrative and Obama's assertion that Trayvon was just killed by a racist and white folk didn't care" caused years of violent racial riots, which were still going strong in the month that attack happened. And that's not a snuck premise, it's an undeniable fact.

Sure, Obama invented racial tension in America. 🙄 If only he hadn't humanized a dead kid who was targeted because he was Black, then Black Americans wouldn't have any resentment. 

It's not the fact that Zimmerman targeted Martin and faced no consequence. Or that it happens again and again. Or the obvious disparity in the justice system and throughout most systems. Nope. Obama acknowledging it is the real problem. .wowza 

[CdnFox]

Obama Says If He Had A Son Who Stabbed Someone In The Heart With A Knife, He Would Look Just Like Karmelo Anthony | Babylon Bee

Obama Says If He Had A Son Who Stabbed Someone In The Heart With A Knife, He Would Look Just Like Karmelo Anthony

[Hodad]

33 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Karmelo's response was neither proportional nor reasonable. Not from "the way it sounds to us", and not from "the way it appeared to all of the witnesses at the scene."

You're talking about sports, and tradition, in the USA.

Talk to the other team's bench and see what happens. Celebrate too much after scoring and see what happens. Throw a couple pitches too close to opposing players' heads and see what happens. Skate across the center line during the pre-game and see what happens. Throw a jersey for your own team on the floor and see what happens.

If you just get a push, consider yourself lucky. 

Athletes are territorial, and pushing is accepted. Even in soccer, the biggest b1otch sport of all, people can push. But you can't stab in soccer. Not even in lacrosse, and that sport is crazier than hockey.

I ask you: could a Yale rower just walk in and hang out in a Harvard tent? Guys from those schools are theoretically America's foremost gentleman in that age group, but there will absolutely be a push. 100%. That being said, the chance that there won't be a stabbing is also 100%. And if by some miracle there was, even the whitest stabber killing the blackest victim would be found guilty of murder. You just can't murder people for a push. Even in Texas.

 

And honestly... who brings a fkn crocodile Dundee knife to a rowing event, or a track meet? It seems a bit pre-meditated, even if that's notwithstanding the fact that it's just "100% legal".

Lol. It wasn't a crocodile Dundee knife. It was a cheap, Walmart multi tool. 

You're all for people walking around daily with handguns, but a Black kid with a $13 multi tool is suspicious-- looking for trouble. See how pervasive it is? You don't even realize your doing it. 

And your bullshit narrative about sports culture is just nonsense. It was a track meet. A non contact sport. And it's common for the athletes to mingle. 

Metcalf's Coach

"Defense attorney Mike Howard asked him if he was aware of any policy or expectation that prohibited students from sitting under other team tents. The coach said no and testified that his athletes would mingle with their friends from other schools during their downtime."

 

 

Anthony didn't show up to cause terrible. He was there to say hi to a friend. Metcalf's teammate told detectives that another teammate (Anthony's friend) called him into the tent. Invited him in. He sat down and talked about the weather.  Metcalf was apparently feeling particularly territorial, and was probably a 17 year old boy about it. 

 

You've constructed an imaginary narrative about what Anthony was doing and why he was doing it. Wonder why?

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

No, you're wrong about that.

Metcalfe's response to Karmelo was fair and reasonable. 

You're correct to say that he didn't own that tent, but he had a reasonable claim to ask Anthony to leave, and he didn't behave in a manner that was out of order for that situation by shoving him. 

Anthony's response to the shove was not reasonable, necessary, justifiable, or especially proportional, and therein lies the rub: SYG laws don't give you the right to kill someone for a shove. 

You seem to think that SYG means that you can stand wherever you want and if anyone touches you or speaks to you with a scary tone, you can murder them, and it doesn't mean that at all.

What's alarming is that you seem to be trying really hard to understand these laws, and yet you have it all backwards. 

Think of it as "SYG from a serious threat, or unprovoked attack", not "act like an alligator at the edge of a pond."

In Texas, you don't have to run: when you're behaving reasonably and someone comes and flexes on you, intimidates you, and then makes a serious threat or attacks you with actual violence. At the point where a person feels like they're in real danger for their life, they can use lethal force. They can't "start shooting during a shoving match."

All YOU HAVE is amateur OPINIONS which carry ZERO WEIGHT ANYWHERE. Esp NO WEIGHT in COURT nor the court of public OPINION.

You don't even bother to FIND EXPERT OPINION. LMAO

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Lol. It wasn't a crocodile Dundee knife. It was a cheap, Walmart multi tool. 

It was a 3,5 inch semi serrated locking blade.  That's not just a 'multitool' , that's a serious blade  Trying to downplay that just makes YOU look like a tool. 

[Fluffypants]

41 minutes ago, robosmith said:

All YOU HAVE is amateur OPINIONS which carry ZERO WEIGHT ANYWHERE. Esp NO WEIGHT in COURT nor the court of public OPINION.

You don't even bother to FIND EXPERT OPINION. LMAO

All you ever do is put up videos from amateurs and they seem to hold weight to you.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

All you ever do is put up videos from amateurs and they seem to hold weight to you.

They get paid to write and post those things and have hundreds or thousands of followers. AKA far more than what you or I write HERE.

Your inability to refutes their arguments says you just don't understand what they're saying.

[Deluge]

11 hours ago, Hodad said:

Lol. It wasn't a crocodile Dundee knife. It was a cheap, Walmart multi tool. 

You're all for people walking around daily with handguns, but a Black kid with a $13 multi tool is suspicious-- looking for trouble. See how pervasive it is? You don't even realize your doing it. 

And your bullshit narrative about sports culture is just nonsense. It was a track meet. A non contact sport. And it's common for the athletes to mingle. 

Metcalf's Coach

"Defense attorney Mike Howard asked him if he was aware of any policy or expectation that prohibited students from sitting under other team tents. The coach said no and testified that his athletes would mingle with their friends from other schools during their downtime."

 

 

Anthony didn't show up to cause terrible. He was there to say hi to a friend. Metcalf's teammate told detectives that another teammate (Anthony's friend) called him into the tent. Invited him in. He sat down and talked about the weather.  Metcalf was apparently feeling particularly territorial, and was probably a 17 year old boy about it. 

 

You've constructed an imaginary narrative about what Anthony was doing and why he was doing it. Wonder why?

What hodad is stumbling to say is that Metcalf was guilty of racism and that justice had already been served when Metcalf attacked Anthony's knife with his chest. 

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

They get paid to write and post those things and have hundreds or thousands of followers. AKA far more than what you or I write HERE.

 

So did Hitler. What's your point

[Fluffypants]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So did Hitler. What's your point

We need to stop giving him attention, I think he just likes derailing topics for fun.

[Fluffypants]

The parents are delusional, they are literally saying EVERY witness was lying. Somehow people who weren't there know the truth. 

Black people are the only people who can commit pure unadulterated murder and make it about themselves and claim victimhood.

Its everyone elses fault. Your the ones who raised a murderer period end of story. Its hard to but on a defense for the indefenseable. There was video evidence and 20+ witnesses saying Karmelo was the one running his mouth, he was the one not supposed to be there and talked shit when he was asked to leave 15 times. They were cool with him being there while it was raining but once it stopped there was no reason to be under THEIR TENT. He wasn't invited, he was kicked out of the dugout because their dumbass school didn't bring their own tent and he probably saw someone he knew and initially went under there and used that dude as pretext. The entire time they asked him to leave his "friend" never stood up for him. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Fluffypants said:

The parents are delusional, they are literally saying EVERY witness was lying. Somehow people who weren't there know the truth. 

Black people are the only people who can commit pure unadulterated murder and make it about themselves and claim victimhood.

Its everyone elses fault. Your the ones who raised a murderer period end of story. Its hard to but on a defense for the indefenseable. There was video evidence and 20+ witnesses saying Karmelo was the one running his mouth, he was the one not supposed to be there and talked shit when he was asked to leave 15 times. They were cool with him being there while it was raining but once it stopped there was no reason to be under THEIR TENT. He wasn't invited, he was kicked out of the dugout because their dumbass school didn't bring their own tent and he probably saw someone he knew and initially went under there and used that dude as pretext. The entire time they asked him to leave his "friend" never stood up for him. 

Perfect.

And so much for the race-baiting Libbies.

[User]

On 6/8/2026 at 4:17 PM, Hodad said:

Texas is a "Stand your ground state." There is no duty to retreat. This is the kind of madness you guys love. Apparently Anthony was outnumbered, surrounded by bigger, hostile guys and was on the receiving end of physical aggression rather than initiating it. 

Tell me why it's not a case of self defense under this set of laws? Is there anything about Anthony (any reason at all, ahem) that would keep the regular crowd here from supporting him? Any difference? I'll hold my breath. 

As usual, just pure unmitigated BS from our resident coward. 
 

 

[Reg Volk]

4 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

The parents are delusional, they are literally saying EVERY witness was lying. Somehow people who weren't there know the truth. 

Black people are the only people who can commit pure unadulterated murder and make it about themselves and claim victimhood.

Its everyone elses fault. Your the ones who raised a murderer period end of story. Its hard to but on a defense for the indefenseable. There was video evidence and 20+ witnesses saying Karmelo was the one running his mouth, he was the one not supposed to be there and talked shit when he was asked to leave 15 times. They were cool with him being there while it was raining but once it stopped there was no reason to be under THEIR TENT. He wasn't invited, he was kicked out of the dugout because their dumbass school didn't bring their own tent and he probably saw someone he knew and initially went under there and used that dude as pretext. The entire time they asked him to leave his "friend" never stood up for him. 

This reminds me of that whole Jussi Smollett mess.  That race-baiting idlot Smollett was caught dead to rights faking a hate crime, and STILL, after his trial, in which he was made to look like a complete fool, maintained his innocence.  Just zero acknowledgment of the part he played in creating fake hate in the US.  These people are just as stupid.  Give it up you boneheads.  

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Obama Says If He Had A Son Who Stabbed Someone In The Heart With A Knife, He Would Look Just Like Karmelo Anthony | Babylon Bee

Obama Says If He Had A Son Who Stabbed Someone In The Heart With A Knife, He Would Look Just Like Karmelo Anthony

OMG, that's an all-time Babylon Bee great.

[WestCanMan]

19 hours ago, Hodad said:

Lol. It wasn't a crocodile Dundee knife. It was a cheap, Walmart multi tool. 

It's not really a "multi-tool" per se.

When most people think of a multi-tool it's usually more tool based than knife based, like a leatherman. 

That's a "multi-tool".

Even a Swiss Army knife isn't really called a multi-tool, it's a knife with a bunch of other stuff attached.

Karmelo's "multi-tool" was a big-ass knife with some really minor "tools" attached:

That's the "Ozark Trail 6-in-1 Multi-Tool Knife with Light (Model 5335) from Walmart", which Karmelo used to kill someone.

No one would look at that and say "It's a multi-tool". 

It has a tiny light, a tiny rope-cutter, a flint, and the smallest bottle-opener anywhere.

If I attach a flashlight and a screwdriver to my shotgun can I call it a multi-tool?

"Sorry, no guns allowed here, sir."

"Oh, it's not a gun, it's a multi-tool." 

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You're all for people walking around daily with handguns,

No I'm not. Not in the city.

I have a restricted firearms license, I'm allowed to own handguns, but I don't wanna carry my handgun around here.

Out hiking, maybe, but that's illegal unless you're a surveyor.

I don't mind that some police officers are allowed (narc squad police are allowed to carry while off-duty here) to carry, but I don't want that responsibility. I don't even think they're all that useful TBH. I can hit things at 200 yards with a rifle that I can't hit at 30' with a handgun.

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but a Black kid with a $13 multi tool is suspicious-- looking for trouble.

 

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See how pervasive it is? You don't even realize your doing it. 

I'm not doing "it". "It's" not pervasive.

The kid was carrying A. BIG. LETHAL. WEAPON. 

Not a "multi-tool". Not a multi-tool at all. 

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And your bullshit narrative about sports culture is just nonsense. It was a track meet. A non contact sport. And it's common for the athletes to mingle. 

I played softball up until last year. 57.

From time to time teams bring those kinds of tents to tournaments to block the sun usually, but also the rain. 

I have "mingled" in other teams' tents before, but if they asked me to leave I'd never say "no". That's just plain fkn ignorant.

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"Defense attorney Mike Howard asked him if he was aware of any policy or expectation that prohibited students from sitting under other team tents. The coach said no and testified that his athletes would mingle with their friends from other schools during their downtime."

 

But if you're not a friend, or you're unwanted, fkn leave. 

You could even say "He shouldn't have shoved that guy, he should get suspended for 2 days."

But could you ever say "Someone shoved him so he stabbed the guy to death"? Does that make fkn sense?

Zimmerman was jumped and was beating seriously beaten. That's nothing like this story.

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Anthony didn't show up to cause terrible.

He was there to say hi to a friend. Metcalf's teammate told detectives that another teammate (Anthony's friend) called him into the tent. Invited him in. He sat down and talked about the weather.  Metcalf was apparently feeling particularly territorial, and was probably a 17 year old boy about it. 

I will see what kids testified to in court before I start weighing in on that aspect of it.

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You've constructed an imaginary narrative about what Anthony was doing and why he was doing it. Wonder why?

Oh, I dunno. Maybe because he killed someone?

Do you think Kevin Hart sits around laughing and joking and then just stabs people?

Only Will Smith goes from "laughing at a joke" one second, and then slapping someone the next, and even black people can't believe he went and did that. And that was just a slap, not a stab. 

Regardless of what I think of Will Smith now, I don't think there's a chance in hell that he woulda stabbed anyone that night.

 

And stop acting like conservatives are being weird about race.

It's conservatives that say "Baldwin killed that woman", and he's no blacker than I am. 

Edited June 11 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

"Multi-tool" is the new "gentle giant", "mostly peaceful protest", "religion of peace".... 

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"Multi-tool" is the new "gentle giant", "mostly peaceful protest", "religion of peace".... 

Well in fairness they could have called it a 'technical ' knife'

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"Multi-tool" is the new "gentle giant", "mostly peaceful protest", "religion of peace".... 

If we're being 100% fair I wouldn't particularly call that a combat knife or a knife designed to hurt other people or the like. Three and a half inch blade no tang to keep your hand from slipping up and a bunch of unnecessary junk on it. I carry a knife every single day with a blade of a similar size. 

But I don't like how they're trying to downsize it and pretend that it's some sort of "not a knife' knife or that it's not extremely dangerous if someone uses it as a weapon. There IS a certain level of duty of care if you're going to have a pocket knife on you and that IS on the larger side of pocket knives.  You have to know when you pull that out you're quite capable of inflicting a lethal injury. 

That's a serious piece of steel and the cost is of no interest. Even a cheap night these days can be quite sharp and do amazing damage. Suggesting it was less lethal because it only cost 10 dollars or because it wasn't a knife it was a 'multiool' is just disingenuous

[User]

21 hours ago, Hodad said:

It was a cheap, Walmart multi tool. 

It doesn't matter how much it costs, where it was purchased, or your dishonest attempt to frame it as a "multi tool," as it was a deadly weapon, used as a deadly weapon, to stab another boy in the heart. 

It is laughable that you are trying to characterize its having a flashlight on it as a "mutli tool"

Sure, many people have a flashlight on their AR-15's too! It is no longer a scary assault rifle... ROFL
 

[WestCanMan]

This is one of the 5 "tools" on Karmelo's "6-in-one multi-tool":

Can you imagine being stranded in the middle of nowhere without one of those?

 

Hapless Man: "I dropped my keys somewhere in that forest!"

'Melo-Man: "Don't worry! I have a flashlight on my multi-tool!"

 

 

Hapless Man: "Melo-Man, can you cut this piece of rope with your 5" knife?"

'Melo-Man: "It's not a knife, it's a multi-tool, and the answer is no. But lucky for you it has this cord-cutter tool on it, for when you need to cut a piece of rope thin cord but you only have a stabbing weapon."

"I can cut ropes up to 3/8" thick with this. I dunno how we're gonna cut that 1/2" polypropylene rope though. I don't have a tool for that."

 

 

Hapless Man: "All I have are these lighters and matches, and this tiger torch, but I can't seem to light this log on fire. Please tell me that there's something on your multi-tool, Melo-Man..."

'Melo-Man: "I once used this to weld two train cars together. it should do the trick!"

 

Hapless Man: "I bet that you can survive an apocalypse or build a house with that thing, Melo-Man. Have a nice day."

*STAB STAB*

Hapless Man: *coughs up blood* "Why, Melo-Man?"

Melo-Man: "Where I come from, we say "Have a GREAT day"... Saying "Have a nice day" is not considered "nice", so I had to stand my ground.

Hapless Man: "👻"  

Edited June 12 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, User said:

It doesn't matter how much it costs, where it was purchased, or your dishonest attempt to frame it as a "multi tool," as it was a deadly weapon, used as a deadly weapon, to stab another boy in the heart. 

It is laughable that you are trying to characterize its having a flashlight on it as a "mutli tool"

Sure, many people have a flashlight on their AR-15's too! It is no longer a scary assault rifle... ROFL
 

Sorry but the AR is still up deadly weapon, at least until you put the bottle opener on it as well. Unless it's got the shoulder thing that goes up

[Legato]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry but the AR is still up deadly weapon, at least until you put the bottle opener on it as well. Unless it's got the shoulder thing that goes up

My AR 15 only has 14 attachments, should I send it back? Also the bottle opener broke trying to open a can of Guinness.

They said it was one of these calibers but none fit.

 

 

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Legato said:

My AR 15 [multi-tool] only has 14 attachments, should I send it back? Also the bottle opener broke trying to open a can of Guinness.

FIFY.

Now you can take it to schools and sporting events.

 😂

Edited Friday at 01:57 PM by WestCanMan