The UNs scientist admits they are wrong about climate change

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So it's not a hoax that the temperatures are rising then.

See, that's a change from what we used to argue on here.

 

 

No Mike. Its not. Go back and check, if you must.

I have conceded the change all along. I mean...I can read a chart ya know...giggle.

No sir...my argument is beyond that. 

The "change" is actually negligible and is not a real cause to dump on the base of the global economy.

What has been done...is downright mean. Any effects man has on the planet and its environment, will be addressed in due course. Like the Ozone problem. That's what man does. Fix and or maintain things. Rather ingenious...minus the odd dolt. Have a little faith.

And for compassion's sake...remove all the Gawd Damn fear-porn and let the economy enjoy a proper recovery.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No Mike. Its not. Go back and check, if you must.

 .

I'm not talking about we, as in you and I. I mean on the board. I don't have to look back, I can remember.

People called it a hoax and they said the temperature numbers were entirely made up. The temperature wasn't going up. 

Now the hoax is moved... The temperature is moving upwards but The hoax is now only that that they're trying to scam money for it. 

I don't think so. I think that many scientists over decades and decades identified A problem, and the obvious solution is to reduce the use of the substance that is likely behind it. 

Once again, the greenhouse effect is real. 

That's what I think.

Edited yesterday at 01:14 AM by Michael Hardner

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

You have to use proxies.

What happened before the temperature became a money maker for manipulators and payed for by the weak minded?

Was the after the poxy proxy.

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

What happened before the temperature became a money maker for manipulators and payed for by the weak minded?

It was a conspiracy before, and it's a conspiracy now.

You can't falsify a conspiracy theory.

Just tell yourself that I'm in on it, and the conversation is done.

 

[Legato]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

It was a conspiracy before, and it's a conspiracy now.

You can't falsify a conspiracy theory.

Just tell yourself that I'm in on it, and the conversation is done.

 

Conspiracy by whom for who or what should be the question.

Do you have a non-nonspiritual answer.

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So it's not a hoax that the temperatures are rising then.

See, that's a change from what we used to argue on here.

 

 

Nobody has ever argued that Mike. You're lying to try and defend your position. The claim is always been that they're not rising enough to represent a crisis or that any of the proposed solutions would resolve the issue

40 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not talking about we, as in you and I. I mean on the board. I don't have to look back, I can remember.

 

You can lie. I've never seen anyone here claim that the temperature doesn't change.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not talking about we, as in you and I. I mean on the board. I don't have to look back, I can remember.

People called it a hoax and they said the temperature numbers were entirely made up. The temperature wasn't going up. 

Now the hoax is moved... The temperature is moving upwards but The hoax is now only that that they're trying to scam money for it. 

I don't think so. I think that many scientists over decades and decades identified A problem, and the obvious solution is to reduce the use of the substance that is likely behind it. 

Once again, the greenhouse effect is real. 

That's what I think.

I think that its real too. Most of us do in fact. People can easily die from drowning. Should the law be no swimming? No. Why? Because the risk does not justify the proposed response.

Same principal here. There's a risk. However we don't see it being big enough to justify scaring the shit outta the public and trashing the global economy in the process.

That's what we would call...over reaction to stimuli. 

And please don't try to tell me that "science" just realized this. The actual "scientists" have known that for quite some time now.

Edited yesterday at 03:01 AM by Nationalist

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

How is it a hoax or a lie if the temperature keeps going up?

Because they admitted to having "errors" that lasted 20+ years? That's not a real thing, after experts like Judith Curry were telling them about their errors. 

Because they admitted to putting out "overly apocalyptic scenarios"?

Just remember that when micro-droplets of rain fell for 15 seconds during a 17-minute speech, and Trump said "it didn't rain", leftists said "IT'S A LIE!!! THAT WAS A LIE!!!! TRUMP LIED!!! HE LIED!!! IT RAINED DURING HIS SPEECH!!! TRUMP IS SUCH A HUGE LIAR!!!"

Honestly, for 9 years after that, if you asked someone about Trump's alleged "lying", that was Exhibit "A".  

I even asked Robo to find proof of all Trump's lying a couple years ago, and I said that in whatever article he cites "The first two things they're gonna talk about are 'rain during the inauguration' and 'the crowd size at the inauguration'", and guess what... those were the leading stories in the WashPo article that he cited.

 

So, if leftists wanna say "OMG IT RAAAAINED!!!!" because of a light drivel for 15 seconds out of 17 minutes, then what do you call "a 20-year lie with a side of overly apocalyptic scenarios"?

• "Awwww, gee. They were pretty close." 

That's why I call you guys left4rds instead of leftists. No one else would say that 0 out of 13M was "close enough". 

 

In Al Gore's 1992 book called "Life in the Balance", he cited "global warming predictions" that "within the next few decades, 60% of Florida's population will have to be relocated due to flooding". 34 years later (that's "a few decades"), that total is still zero. 

Zero instead of 13,000,000. And just in this thread, one of you monkeys was still trying to say that "Al Gore tuk sum classis from a klimitolligist, so he is a akshual athoruty" 🤣

Buddy you guys are down 50M to zero and you still act like you're winning. It's outrageous. 

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

So it's not a hoax that the temperatures are rising then.

Correlation is not causation. 

1. the earth's temperature has always been changing
2. the hockey stick graph was BS
3. the people who keep getting caught telling actual lies are the same ones who give us our modern "stats". 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Because they admitted to having "errors" that lasted 20+ years? That's not a real thing, after experts like Judith Curry were telling them about their errors. 

Because they admitted to putting out "overly apocalyptic scenarios"?

Just remember that when micro-droplets of rain fell for 15 seconds during a 17-minute speech, and Trump said "it didn't rain", leftists said "IT'S A LIE!!! THAT WAS A LIE!!!! TRUMP LIED!!! HE LIED!!! IT RAINED DURING HIS SPEECH!!! TRUMP IS SUCH A HUGE LIAR!!!"

Honestly, for 9 years after that, if you asked someone about Trump's alleged "lying", that was Exhibit "A".  

I even asked Robo to find proof of all Trump's lying a couple years ago, and I said that in whatever article he cites "The first two things they're gonna talk about are 'rain during the inauguration' and 'the crowd size at the inauguration'", and guess what... those were the leading stories in the WashPo article that he cited.

 

So, if leftists wanna say "OMG IT RAAAAINED!!!!" because of a light drivel for 15 seconds out of 17 minutes, then what do you call "a 20-year lie with a side of overly apocalyptic scenarios"?

• "Awwww, gee. They were pretty close." 

That's why I call you guys left4rds instead of leftists. No one else would say that 0 out of 13M was "close enough". 

 

In Al Gore's 1992 book called "Life in the Balance", he cited "global warming predictions" that "within the next few decades, 60% of Florida's population will have to be relocated due to flooding". 34 years later (that's "a few decades"), that total is still zero. 

Zero instead of 13,000,000. And just in this thread, one of you monkeys was still trying to say that "Al Gore tuk sum classis from a klimitolligist, so he is a akshual athoruty" 🤣

Buddy you guys are down 50M to zero and you still act like you're winning. It's outrageous. 

And as usual makes playing a little dishonest game

His question is how can it be a hoax if the temperature is going up. Which implies that what is being denied is that the temperature is going up

Everybody's been clear with him that the hoax is the idea that it's a major crisis that demands our immediate attention or we're all going to die and that justifies additional government taxes and the destruction of the economy. 

That's the hoax.  But he pretends we're talking about whether or not the temperature might go up a degree or something.

And that kind of thing just proves he knows it's a hoax

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It was a conspiracy before, and it's a conspiracy now.

You can't falsify a conspiracy theory.

Just tell yourself that I'm in on it, and the conversation is done.

Your handlers lie, Michael. Constantly.

Al Gore is a charlatan, and his talking monkeys, like Leo DiCaprio, John Kerry, George Clooney, David Suzuki, etc, are all blatant hypocrites with carbon footprints that are several times that of normal people.

Damn, can you imagine if we all lived like global warming fearmongers?

"Hey Mike, instead of just going to the Olive Garden by 200th street, let's take our private jets to Boston for some clam chowder, and then go for dinner in Miami at El Cucaracha. Then let's take or yachts ten miles off the coast and shoot off some fireworks. My yacht is being fuelled up right now, by the time we finish our soup it should have enough gas to go 20 miles. If we feel bad about how much fossil fuels we used, we can just lecture the peons together."

[User]

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think so. I think that many scientists over decades and decades identified A problem, and the obvious solution is to reduce the use of the substance that is likely behind it. 

Once again, the greenhouse effect is real. 

That's what I think.

Except... you skip over some key things...

1. Is warming happening? 

2. What is causing it?

3. How much of that is man made?

4. Is this even bad?

5. How bad?

6. What can we do to actually stop it?

7. What is the cost/benefit to trying to stop it?

8. Why not just mitigate and adapt?

The problem is that folks pushing this focus on two things:

1. OMG THERE IS WARMING!

2. OMG IT IS AWFUL AND WE WILL ALL DIE IF WE DONT ACT NOW! <- They have been screaming this for the last 30 years and "now" oddly enough never seems to actually come to fruition, as it is always we must act now or it will be too late!

 

[robosmith]

16 hours ago, Nationalist said:

No Mike. Its not. Go back and check, if you must.

I have conceded the change all along. I mean...I can read a chart ya know...giggle.

No sir...my argument is beyond that. 

The "change" is actually negligible and is not a real cause to dump on the base of the global economy.

What has been done...is downright mean. Any effects man has on the planet and its environment, will be addressed in due course. Like the Ozone problem. That's what man does. Fix and or maintain things. Rather ingenious...minus the odd dolt. Have a little faith.

And for compassion's sake...remove all the Gawd Damn fear-porn and let the economy enjoy a proper recovery.

It's RIDICULOUS how you PRETEND to know more than actual CLIMATOLOGISTS, Mrs. Dunning Kruger.

I can see you're STILL STRUGGLING with the concept of the premise behind the warnings that nothing is done like what YOU WANT.

15 hours ago, Legato said:

What happened before the temperature became a money maker for manipulators and payed for by the weak minded?

Was the after the poxy proxy.

Then the answer if for you to STOP BEING WEAK MINDED. LMAO

Edited 20 hours ago by robosmith

[robosmith]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I think that its real too. Most of us do in fact. People can easily die from drowning. Should the law be no swimming? No. Why? Because the risk does not justify the proposed response.

Same principal here. There's a risk. However we don't see it being big enough to justify scaring the shit outta the public and trashing the global economy in the process.

That's what we would call...over reaction to stimuli. 

And please don't try to tell me that "science" just realized this. The actual "scientists" have known that for quite some time now.

The economy was never trashed, dropout.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Because they admitted to having "errors" that lasted 20+ years? That's not a real thing, after experts like Judith Curry were telling them about their errors. 

Because they admitted to putting out "overly apocalyptic scenarios"?

Just remember that when micro-droplets of rain fell for 15 seconds during a 17-minute speech, and Trump said "it didn't rain", leftists said "IT'S A LIE!!! THAT WAS A LIE!!!! TRUMP LIED!!! HE LIED!!! IT RAINED DURING HIS SPEECH!!! TRUMP IS SUCH A HUGE LIAR!!!"

Honestly, for 9 years after that, if you asked someone about Trump's alleged "lying", that was Exhibit "A".  

I even asked Robo to find proof of all Trump's lying a couple years ago, and I said that in whatever article he cites "The first two things they're gonna talk about are 'rain during the inauguration' and 'the crowd size at the inauguration'", and guess what... those were the leading stories in the WashPo article that he cited.

 

So, if leftists wanna say "OMG IT RAAAAINED!!!!" because of a light drivel for 15 seconds out of 17 minutes, then what do you call "a 20-year lie with a side of overly apocalyptic scenarios"?

• "Awwww, gee. They were pretty close." 

That's why I call you guys left4rds instead of leftists. No one else would say that 0 out of 13M was "close enough". 

 

In Al Gore's 1992 book called "Life in the Balance", he cited "global warming predictions" that "within the next few decades, 60% of Florida's population will have to be relocated due to flooding". 34 years later (that's "a few decades"), that total is still zero. 

Zero instead of 13,000,000. And just in this thread, one of you monkeys was still trying to say that "Al Gore tuk sum classis from a klimitolligist, so he is a akshual athoruty" 🤣

Buddy you guys are down 50M to zero and you still act like you're winning. It's outrageous. 

Your DRIVEL is NEVER LIGHT. LMAO

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Your handlers lie, Michael. Constantly.

Al Gore is a charlatan, and his talking monkeys, like Leo DiCaprio, John Kerry, George Clooney, David Suzuki, etc, are all blatant hypocrites with carbon footprints that are several times that of normal people.

Damn, can you imagine if we all lived like global warming fearmongers?

"Hey Mike, instead of just going to the Olive Garden by 200th street, let's take our private jets to Boston for some clam chowder, and then go for dinner in Miami at El Cucaracha. Then let's take or yachts ten miles off the coast and shoot off some fireworks. My yacht is being fuelled up right now, by the time we finish our soup it should have enough gas to go 20 miles. If we feel bad about how much fossil fuels we used, we can just lecture the peons together."

Your ^FANTASIES are a hilarious bedtime story for your kids.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Well, it’s the hottest day since records began in 1947 in France:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/23/heatwave-france-spain-italy-europe

 

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The economy was never trashed, dropout.

Your DRIVEL is NEVER LIGHT. LMAO

Don't be silly Dweebles. This is just gasoline up here.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/article/climate-policies-and-fossil-fuel-clean-fuel-regulations-and-carbon-pricing-explained/

"At current levels the carbon price adds about 14 cents to a litre of gas. That will rise 3.3 cents per year until 2030, when it will add 37 cents."

This in turn effects transport prices which in turn effects pretty much everything we buy.

That...my little brocku...is artificially created inflation...across the board.

Have a warm and fuzzy day.

[Legato]

32 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's RIDICULOUS how you PRETEND to know more than actual CLIMATOLOGISTS, Mrs. Dunning Kruger.

I can see you're STILL STRUGGLING with the concept of the premise behind the warnings that nothing is done like what YOU WANT.

Then the answer if for you to STOP BEING WEAK MINDED. LMAO

I did not pay, and it was dunning versus kruger, who won?

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

I did not pay, and it was dunning versus kruger, who won?

They were partners, CLOWN

[Legato]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

They were partners, CLOWN

UFC match and they weren't clowning around.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Well, it’s the hottest day since records began in 1947 in France:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/23/heatwave-france-spain-italy-europe

 

So?

[eyeball]

On 5/17/2026 at 7:24 AM, Legato said:

Historically, some of the greatest breakthroughs in human history occurred when a lone genius rejected the established consensus.

The best breakthroughs are when the established consensus accepts the lone genius.

As I've pointed out multiple times any one of you could be in line for a Nobel, millions in cash and more panties thrown at you than Steven Tyler.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The best breakthroughs are when the established consensus accepts the lone genius.

 

Untrue, give me an example though maybe I'm wrong

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Untrue, give me an example though maybe I'm wrong

Galileo.

Okay, I realize it took the Catholic Church 359 years to officially close the investigation into Galileo's condemnation but that's conservatives for you.

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Wildfires in Greenland in June. One more unusual event to add to the evidence.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/23/scientists-alarmed-wildfires-greenland

We will win this argument eventually, I’m afraid. And we will taste the ashes in our mouths. 

Edited 12 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland