Popular Post bush_cheney2004 Posted March 31 Popular Post Report Posted March 31 Interesting rant against Canada's speech laws and NDP convention by a frustrated Canadian patriot: Quote Disclaimer: lots of cussing. Screw Canadian speech laws, we’re in this mess because we aren’t allowed tell degenerates to f**k off 2 4 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Venandi Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 (edited) 6 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Interesting rant against Canada's speech laws and NDP convention by a frustrated Canadian patriot: Generally speaking, she just summarized the feelings of most people I know, meaning the ones I see on a daily basis at the gym and various other sporting activities & hobbies I participate in. I'd observe that they tend to be kinder in the way they frame the issues and the words they choose, but, the sentiment itself is pretty much the same. I'd also observe that the demographic is younger... the old timers tend to be 40ish with only a few of us significantly above that. And here's the thing, support for the liberals is running between 63 and 67% in the Maritimes and 47% of voters here are aged 50 and older. I don't pretend to follow voting trends or have any in-depth knowledge about such things but it looks like boomers are driving the success of the liberals and the younger crowd are becoming increasingly frustrated with it. Anecdotal at best but that's how it appears to me. I'm starting to think that these frustrations will only increase with time and as the boomers die off that the politics of the nation will change significantly and quickly. Put another way, and IMO of course, the driving force behind the current level of madness in Canada isn't the Liberal Party per se, it's the "moon bat boomers" who keep voting for these critters. The Liberal Party is simply giving (what I see as) the most selfish, self absorbed and entitled generation to ever walk the planet exactly what they want. Maybe as the boomers die off we'll slowly return to the "old school" liberal values that I used to share and vote for; the current flavour of liberalism gives me the dry heaves; there is nothing I find relatable and I'm starting to not even recognize the country. So... maybe MAID is a good thing and maybe it should be expanded. If we don't rid ourselves of these critters pretty soon there may be nothing left for the next generation to save. As it stands now, and if they got busy on the required rectifications tomorrow, the fix is about two decades out. Am I an army of one here? Edited March 31 by Venandi 2 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, Venandi said: Am I an army of one here? Not at all. The fixation with identity politics is to me a pervasive and actually anti-political force because it's disunifying at the core. People are going to have to learn to focus on material aspects of life, rather than identity, to move forward. We don't have identity in common, or even values as much as the need for security, shelter and food. Economics trumps virtue, as they say. 3 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
John Johnston Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Not at all. The fixation with identity politics is to me a pervasive and actually anti-political force because it's disunifying at the core. People are going to have to learn to focus on material aspects of life, rather than identity, to move forward. We don't have identity in common, or even values as much as the need for security, shelter and food. Economics trumps virtue, as they say. As a long time "Boomer" personally, I was busy working and making ends meet. Many of us did not have the luxury of whining about identity politics. Now I have to scoot over and read the obits, to see if I am in there this morning. 3 Quote
Barquentine Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 3 hours ago, Venandi said: boomers are driving the success of the liberals I guess you're not old enough to understand peoples' political arcs as they age. The vast majority of people become more conservative as they get older, especially as they acquire money and property. Boomers just don't like lickspittles like Poilievre. When the Cons get an intelligent leader they might have some success. And as for that video from that rabid Infowars-loving extremist? There ain't enough cheese in the world to go with that whine. Yours either. At one point she complained about refugees. Wasn't she a Serbian refugee? She's free to go back if she doesn't like it here. 3 Quote
John Johnston Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Barquentine said: I guess you're not old enough to understand peoples' political arcs as they age. The vast majority of people become more conservative as they get older, especially as they acquire money and property. Boomers just don't like lickspittles like Poilievre. When the Cons get an intelligent leader they might have some success. And as for that video from that rabid Infowars-loving extremist? There ain't enough cheese in the world to go with that whine. Yours either. At one point she complained about refugees. Wasn't she a Serbian refugee? She's free to go back if she doesn't like it here. Bingo. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 1 hour ago, John Johnston said: As a long time "Boomer" personally, I was busy working and making ends meet. Many of us did not have the luxury of whining about identity politics. Now I have to scoot over and read the obits, to see if I am in there this morning. Just log on here and see if you can post. If not, you're either dead or Cloudflare is happening. I'll bet you were progressive FOR THE TIMES when you were younger. We grew up watching I Spy with that shining example of Negro virtue... Bill Cosby. One of the all time greats, wonder what happened to him. Anyway, progress goes one direction. I'll even bet some of the Poilievre supporters are MARRIED LESBIANS, super gasp. It actually stuns me how the rhetoric we hear from anti-progressives is disconnected from their reality of their own lives. One of the most virulent anti-Muslim posters on here, as I recall, revealed that he was friends with his Muslim neighbour ? Maybe we are actually just blabbing and not talking to the real world. 2 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Venandi Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 (edited) 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: I guess you're not old enough to understand peoples' political arcs as they age. Lucky I have your brilliance to light the way for me. But... that's not what i'm seeing, I don't even see it here on the forum. People are getting crazier by the day. My conversion to the Conservatives is simply an effort to mitigate the buffoonery that seems to have taken over. Boomers make up 47% of the population in my area, they were allowed to breed, and they had the means to send their progeny off to liberal universities. The kids (through newfound experience with tough times) are beginning to question their parent's views about things they once took for granted, and rightly so. What I see is that boomers aren't paying attention, they don't actually know what's going on in the world and can't be bothered to find out. They have lots of hard held opinions about things but they can't actually discuss the issues in a rational manner.... their opinions are too fixed to allow it and their rhetoric is to sharp to admit they were wrong. They double down on madness and their arguments are laden with sarcasm and ridicule, as if that can prevail.... ever. It's a polarized world now, and instead looking at information from a "does this make sense" perspective, they search out information that tends to support their initial position. And it's easy to find. Anyone who's ever worn an airline pilot uniform in an airport during a ground hold can tell you all about being vigorously debriefed on flying into thunder storms by people who have no clue (all boomers in my experience BTW). Ask someone why they said "PP is a racist" and they have no answer. None... not a single example of it. The science behind S protein toxicity and lipid nanoparticles in the Covid vaccine is another example... the actual science is lost on the very boomers who scream follow the science in your face. There is, and can be, no polite debate / conversation about such things. This could be a new thread... I'm not suggesting that what I see is true across the board, maybe it isn't, maybe you're right, I don't actually know. It's not what I see though. Edited March 31 by Venandi 1 Quote
John Johnston Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 22 minutes ago, Venandi said: Lucky I have your brilliance to light the way for me. But... that's not what i'm seeing, I don't even see it here on the forum. People are getting crazier by the day. My conversion to the Conservatives is simply an effort to mitigate the buffoonery that seems to have taken over. Boomers may only be (as it that implies not enough) 47% of the population in my area but these critters were allowed to breed and they had the means to send their progeny off to liberal universities. The kids ( through newfound experience with tough times) are beginning to question their parent's views about things they once took to be a given. What I see is that boomers aren't paying attention, they don't actually know what's going on in the world and can't be bothered to find out. They have lots of hard held opinions about things but they can't actually discuss the issues in a rational manner.... their opinions are too fixed to allow it and their rhetoric is to sharp to admit they were wrong. They double down on madness and their arguments are laden with sarcasm and ridicule, as if that can prevail.... ever. It's a polarized world now, and instead looking at information from a "does this make sense" perspective, they search out information that tends to support their initial position. And it's easy to find. Anyone who's ever worn an airline pilot uniform in an airport during a ground hold can tell you all about being vigorously debriefed on flying into thunder storms by people who have no clue (all boomers in my experience BTW). Ask someone why they said "PP is a racist" and they have no answer. None... not a single example of it. The science behind S protein toxicity and lipid nanoparticles in the Covid vaccine is another example... the actual science is lost on the very boomers who scream follow the science in your face. There is, and can be, no polite debate / conversation about such things. This could be a new thread... I'm not suggesting that what I see is true across the board, maybe it isn't, maybe you're right, I don't actually know. It's not what I see though. What I see is that boomers aren't paying attention, they don't actually know what's going on in the world and can't be bothered to find out. No, it's because we have other things to do with our lives. Like living in pesky reality. We did not get where we are in life living with a Cell phone or watching videos jammed up our asses.. Somebody has to pay the bills. 1 Quote
Venandi Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Johnston said: No, it's because we have other things to do with our lives. Like living in pesky reality. The issue isn't why they aren't paying attention, I'm simply asserting that they aren't... and that assertion is only based on what I see anecdotally in my little corner of the world. If people actually are too busy to pay attention, maybe they shouldn't be supporting radical changes to the systemic fabric of society: such things as defunding police, open borders, easy bail etc, especially if undertaking all of it at once. Some of this stuff can take decades to undue if gotten wrong and it can easily create sustained difficulties for the duration of the effort it takes to do it.... health care comes instantly to mind. What's wrong with proceeding cautiously and incrementally with a system of QA gates along the way to see how it's going instead of leaping off the cliff. As I see it, the current mess will take 20 years to fix and the voting block that created it is predominately moon bat boomers. Clearly your milage may vary but in the end: 1 hour ago, John Johnston said: Somebody has to pay the bills. I've had similar conversations with European colleagues over the years about immigration, national debt etc (Sweden and Greece included BTW) and I have to say that IMO, they got it dead wrong... they were every bit as vocal about the fact they had it right as Canadian boomers are now though. The inevitable backlash is almost always as damaging as the original sin that created it, some here are beginning to realize that in terms of mass immigration (beyond the capacity to absorb it) vs housing and health care and have become hardened to plight of refugees in the process. And before anyone jumps on that, a compassionate refugee program is a completely different critter than the unsustainable madness of the current importation situation. It's unsustainable and unsustainable things fail. And really, what did you think was going to happen? Are we so much smarter than everyone else that we don't want to take some hints from their experience? Edited March 31 by Venandi Quote
eyeball Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 13 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Interesting rant against Canada's speech laws and NDP convention by a frustrated Canadian patriot: Maybe her real issue is that she never learned how to deal with frustration on her own, it was probably pandered to when she was a kid. She never developed the emotional calluses that make it easier to ignore and deal with issues like ducks deal with water. 6 hours ago, Venandi said: I'm starting to think that these frustrations will only increase with time and as the boomers die off that the politics of the nation will change significantly and quickly. Some people think the boomer generation is the most well adjusted generation there ever was. We weren't helicoptered, we didn't have play dates arranged for us. We were out the door on our own after breakfast and it was be home by dark or see you at dinner. We couldn't plug into a screen if we had nothing to do. We kept ourselves entertained. We had to figure out how to deal with bullies on our own. For lots of kids it like the Lord of the Flies out there. Kids learned to roll with life's day to day challenges on their own. They had to go get their own bandage when they got a boo and sooth their own hurt feelings if someone called them something disparaging. Nowadays parents would be reported for negligence for leaving their kids on their own the way many boomers were 'raised'. Sure, some kids never made it but most did. Me and a couple of buddies were on the road heading for the coast by the time we were 15 -16. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
WestCanMan Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 13 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Screw Canadian speech laws, we’re in this mess because we aren’t allowed tell degenerates to f**k off That's BEAUTIFUL 🥰 1 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Not at all. The fixation with identity politics is to me a pervasive and actually anti-political force because it's disunifying at the core. That's a bizarre admission coming from a leftist. Since when are you guys against the woke crusade? 5 hours ago, John Johnston said: Many of us did not have the luxury of whining about identity politics. When did the memo go out to leftists that it was time to stop fixating on identity politics? I feel like I just came out of a cryogenic slumber. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nefarious Banana Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: Maybe her real issue is that she never learned how to deal with frustration on her own, it was probably pandered to when she was a kid. She never developed the emotional calluses that make it easier to ignore and deal with issues like ducks deal with water. Or, . . . maybe she, like millions of other Canadians, has reached the saturation point with all the wokie/politically correct/distractive/disgusting crap that comes down the pipe from the Federal & Provincial deadwood politicians. Hat's off to her . . . . Your speculative psychiatry is just that . . . speculative 1 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: Or, . . . maybe she, like millions of other Canadians, has reached the saturation point with all the wokie/politically correct/distractive/disgusting crap that comes down the pipe from the Federal & Provincial deadwood politicians. Hat's off to her . . . . Your speculative psychiatry is just that . . . speculative Speculated on by child psychologists. I've come across a few now that give the Boomers credit for being who they are due to the more hands off parenting they had. Some go so far as comparing it to throwing kids into the deep end and learning to swim or playing in the dirt so they develop immunity from germs. OTOH maybe enough Boomers had bad experiences or heard horror stories that it led them to become the sort of hovering helicopter parents that stunted the development of whatever generation the young lady above is from. Like I said parents these days would likely be charged with negligence if they left kids to their own devices the way many of us were. When were you out the door and on your own? Edited March 31 by eyeball 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nefarious Banana Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Speculated on by child psychologists. I've come across a few now that give the Boomers credit for being who they are due to the more hands off parenting they had. OTOH maybe enough Boomers had bad experiences or heard horror stories that it led them to become the sort of hovering helicopter parents that stunted the development of whatever generation the young lady above is from. Like I said parents these days would likely be charged with negligence if they left kids to their own devices the way many of us were. When were you out the door and on your own? 1963 - 16yrs. Paddle your own canoe. Smooth or on the rocks, you owned it. 1 Quote
herbie Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 (edited) 14 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Interesting rant against Canada's speech laws and NDP convention by a frustrated Canadian patriot: WTF does the rant have dick all to do with patriotism? The freedom to even make and publicize such a rant works against her very argument. Edited March 31 by herbie 1 Quote
eyeball Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 11 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: 1963 - 16yrs. Paddle your own canoe. Smooth or on the rocks, you owned it. My first boat was made of two logs, a sheet of plywood and a busted goalie stick for a rudder. I almost drowned taking it out into Lake Ontario. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
WestCanMan Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 (edited) 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: The vast majority of people become more conservative as they get older, especially as they acquire money and property. Boomers just don't like lickspittles like Poilievre. When the Cons get an intelligent leader they might have some success. I see that you put a lot of effort into trying to make an intellectual-sounding insult against Poilievre there, but since when has anyone in Canadian politics ever been more of a lickspittle dweeb than Carney? Trudeau was a traitor, sure, but he wasn't a wussy traitor, he was a smarmy, lying, Newsom-style traitor. Carney rolled over like a chichuahua b1tch in front of a dire wolf when he went to the WH, and to this day, all it takes is a mean tweet from Trump to get Carney to run around yelping with his tail between his legs. Carney: "Canada is gonna start buying EV'S from China, everyone! We are standing up to Trump! ELBOWS UP!!!!!" Trump: "No you're not, and don't say "elbows up" anymore. I have an old spermatozoan in my left nut that could still b1tch-slap you." Carney: "No EV's from China!!!!!! Forget I said that, please, please please, please, PLEEEEEEASE!!!! I promise to never say "elbows up" again, Mr Trump, sir!" Can you find me an example of Poilievre rolling over like a Carney-dog? FYI our MSM rolls up on him every day, thinking that they're the cosa nostra, and they're finally gonna pistol-whip him into submission, and every day he swats them away like flies. MSM Cultist: "OMG, YOU SAID "BALAHBLAHBLAH" YESTERDAY!!!! HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! THIS DAY SIGNALS THE END OF YOUR POLITICAL CAREEEEEEER!!!! I'M GONNA BE FAMOUS!!!!! TRUDEAU HIMSELF WILL MAKE ME A KNIGHT OF RAINBOW TABLE!!!!" Pierre: *munch, munch* "It simply means this: [insert common sense answer that makes the reporter look silly here]. *munch, munch*" MSM Cultist: "Rrrrrrrrrr. Burn that film, Drewscilla. If anyone sees it, you'll be in front of Ayatollah Trudeau himself tomorrow! And not just for another spanking!" What was I thinking? Lickspittle has 11 letters... You had no clue what it meant, you just get called that all the time and you wanted to use it on someone else. For your edification: lick·spit·tle /ˈlikˌspid(ə)l/ a person who behaves obsequiously to those in power. Not necessarily a total b1tch, like Mark Carney, but still a real wussy who's an embarrassment to anyone associated with them. Now you know what that word means. Don't get it wrong again. /lesson Edited March 31 by WestCanMan 1 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 31 minutes ago, eyeball said: Speculated on by child psychologists. I've come across a few now that give the Boomers credit for being who they are due to the more hands off parenting they had. The Trudeau/Carney boomer horde are actually just the gullible, credulous weaklings who still call CBC "the news". If you're incapable of thinking for yourself, and have a superiority complex from years and years of being told that "our western media has impeccable integrity and no other countries have fair and balance media like we do", then you have no choice but to vote Liberal. Your ballot was already cast 7 minutes into last night's programming session. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 31 Author Report Posted March 31 2 hours ago, herbie said: WTF does the rant have dick all to do with patriotism? The freedom to even make and publicize such a rant works against her very argument. Her animated rant specifically opened with a purposeful disregard for Bill C-9 and embrace of previous Charter speech rights. Defending free speech (for all) is a patriotic concept for many. The NDP convention delegates certainly had their swing at bat. Forcing Canadians to conform to performative gender and identity speech is coercive. 2 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
paxamericana Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 18 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Forcing Canadians to conform to performative gender and identity speech is coercive. It’s mental illness that affects all Canadians, an identity crisis. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 8 hours ago, Barquentine said: I guess you're not old enough to understand peoples' political arcs as they age. The vast majority of people become more conservative as they get older, especially as they acquire money and property. Boomers just don't like lickspittles like Poilievre. When the Cons get an intelligent leader they might have some success. At one point she complained about refugees. Wasn't she a Serbian refugee? She's free to go back if she doesn't like it here. I find it a bit ironic for liberals voters to be complaining about any conservative MP....wasn't it you guys that elected the Canadian icon, Justin not once but three times....give your heads a shake.....you really got to be some kind of genius to do that..... ...when you've shown the world you can't be trusted to vote responsible...and put more faith in good hair and socks...That's the standard you have chosen... The majority of Canadians are complaining about immigration levels... including refugees, don't you liberals even listen ? 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 3 hours ago, herbie said: WTF does the rant have dick all to do with patriotism? The freedom to even make and publicize such a rant works against her very argument. Point of order .....point of order... Herbie has just shown his special pink card for racialized people and genders....lets let him/ her/they /them/ WTF be heard....He does not understand the video... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted March 31 Report Posted March 31 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: "our western media has impeccable integrity and no other countries have fair and balance media like we do" Who told you this? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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