Are we in a "holy war"?

[herbie]

King Donnie The Deviant leads the XVI Crusade.
Sounds about right.

[Deluge]

14 minutes ago, herbie said:

King Donnie The Deviant leads the XVI Crusade.
Sounds about right.

I don't think anyone cares what a deranged lawless a$$hole like you thinks. 

Perhaps you should stfu. 

[Reg Volk]

10 hours ago, Barquentine said:

...in the US is 'White Christian Nationalism'.

Yet another invented word by the moronic Left.  The fearmongering just never stops.

[Barquentine]

22 hours ago, Deluge said:

Get it right, you whiny b*tch.

So there's no Latinos, Blacks, Indians, Chinese, etc... in the US?

Get it right, you really dumb b*tch!

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So there's no Latinos, Blacks, Indians, Chinese, etc... in the US?

Get it right, you really dumb b*tch!

I'm white...was baptized...and I am a Nationalist. Does that make me a bad person? People seem to like me. I have lots of friends. So am I bad? Not according to stable, normal people. 

Do I think this war is justified? Hard to say. On one hand, its true that Iran has been a purveyor of terrorism and chaos. On the other hand, Iran is a problem for the Middle East...not us.

But...there is a war and the USA has decided its necessary to lead the fight. For soldiers being prepared for war, a "pep talk" about Gawd is reasonable. 

Libbies hate anyone who deviates from the hive mind. Good, bad or indifferent...if you're not part of the collective, you are their mortal enemy. 

Its hard enough to fight an external enemy. Its much harder when internal traitors do their best to foil the efforts of their own nation.

[Moonlight Graham]

Sounds like the US government is now speaking the same language that their enemies in the middle east have been speaking since literally Mohamnad.

All a bunch of religious nutters really.

[Nationalist]

53 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Sounds like the US government is now speaking the same language that their enemies in the middle east have been speaking since literally Mohamnad.

All a bunch of religious nutters really.

True.

But I remember the Iranians chanting "death to America" long before anyone even cared much about them. They also chanted "death to Isreal". Man, that really upset all the Zionist Heebs. Who claim to be a "race", but in all honesty, they're mutts like most of us. Arab, Persian, Russian people of the Jewish faith. They claim the land of Palestine...and indeed more...is their's by the word of Gawd but...I ain'-a buyin' that BS.

Anyway...the Iranians seriously hate the Israelis as do most people of that region, and that is really the root of this war. 

So...does America have any real immediate reason to attack Iran?

Apparently the answer depends on who's paying you.

Edited March 7 by Nationalist

[Barquentine]

22 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I'm white...was baptized...and I am a Nationalist. Does that make me a bad person?

I have no idea if you're bad or good. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, which is more than most of the right-wingers on this forum give me.

But do you believe:

- The US should be just for the advantage of white people?

- The US should  be just for the advantage of Christians?

- That's what the 'White Christian Nationalist" movement is aiming for.

Do some reading on it.

By the way, I'm white, I was baptised (despite being an atheist now) and I'm a Canadian Nationalist. (Canada in all its diversity)

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

I have no idea if you're bad or good. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, which is more than most of the right-wingers on this forum give me.

But do you believe:

- The US should be just for the advantage of white people?

- The US should  be just for the advantage of Christians?

- That's what the 'White Christian Nationalist" movement is aiming for.

Do some reading on it.

By the way, I'm white, I was baptised (despite being an atheist now) and I'm a Canadian Nationalist. (Canada in all its diversity)

No

No

And bullshit.

I dont object to "diversity" at all. What I object to is flooding the country with way too many immigrants in such a short period of time, and actual "diverse" immigration. 

Control it...make the numbers reasonable...take immigrants from all other nations equally. That's truly "diverse". Not this Muslim and Chinese onslaught. 

[ironstone]

On 3/5/2026 at 7:30 PM, Hodad said:

Because only the Congress had the authority to declare a holy war?

"The president had the constitutional authority to direct the use of military force because he could reasonably determine that such use of force was in the national interest"

That came from the Obama administration.

 

[CdnFox]

On 3/5/2026 at 5:11 PM, Hodad said:

Is literacy a prejudice? Because I'm simply reading the complaints in the article. 

Is lighting the signal fire in Iran to trigger Armageddon and the "return" of Christ somehow not the language of a holy war? You think I have prejudices that are causing me to misinterpret that as the language of a holy war?🤣

Literacy isn't, but the filtered lenses through which you read everything certainly are.

Normal people who are not driven by bigotry and hatred can read the same thing and not arrive at the same conclusions

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, Barquentine said:

By the way, I'm white, I was baptised (despite being an atheist now) and I'm a Canadian Nationalist. (Canada in all its diversity)

GASP!!!!  You must be a terrible person then  

As to the right giving you the benefit of the doubt, you've been given so much benefit free of charge around here that you should really rename your nickname to welfare state. You are the one that blows your own credibility not prejudice

And with that out of the way you'll notice that the left always has to create the fake image of a supervillain. You never come back with reasonable or logical arguments, you come back with a threat such as the opposition is all Nazis. Or they're all racists and the racists are going to get us. Well they're all capitalists and they're all going to sell us into slavery. Or they're all white nationalists.

That's why "we need to censor people" or "we should cancel xxxx person"  or "only the gov't should have control over guns/media/your money etc etc"  You know, to  stop the nazi racist capitalist misinformation spreaders.  And the Russians. 

The left ideology can't survive without a fake boogie man to scare people with.

The right may point out threats from time to time but generally speaking they put forward ideas and reasoned arguments, and don't generally need 'bogiemen' for their points to make sense.  "people should be responsible for their own situaton and mistakes".  "gov't shoudn't control peoples lives and should be minimalistic to preserve people's freedoms".  No bad guys needed. 

See the difference?

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Not this Muslim and Chinese onslaught.

Whaaa?

Top Source Countries of New Permanent Residents to Canada (2024)

• India: 127,320+
• Philippines: ~32,300

India - Mostly Hindu

Phillipines - Christian

Followed by;

China

Cameroon- Christian

Nigeria- 50% Christian

So you're wrong about the Muslims and racist about China.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Whaaa?

Top Source Countries of New Permanent Residents to Canada (2024)

• India: 127,320+
• Philippines: ~32,300

India - Mostly Hindu

Phillipines - Christian

Followed by;

China

Cameroon- Christian

Nigeria- 50% Christian

So you're wrong about the Muslims and racist about China.

Lol...go live in Brampton. Get a coffee at Tim Hortons. 

https://www.iqra.ca/2026/demographic-shift-a-profile-of-canadas-muslim-population/

Canada has already guaranteed culture change.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 3/8/2026 at 11:40 PM, ironstone said:

"The president had the constitutional authority to direct the use of military force because he could reasonably determine that such use of force was in the national interest"

That came from the Obama administration.

The Iran attacks for regime change have similar goals as the regime change Obama and NATO did with Gadaffi in Libya.

They both tried to take advantage for civilian mass protest uprisings to get rid of a terrorist-supporting regime that was aggressively against US/NATO interests

 

[WestCanMan]

Just regarding the topic in the title of this thread, it truly is a "holy war", even for atheists like myself, because this war is against the ayatollah's regime, which is an entity that's entirely based on religious bigotry and fanaticism. Right?

WWII was about fascism, or more specifically about Naziism, despite the fact that the allied side weren't fascists at all. 

Well, this war is 100% about an intensely evil and destructive religion that openly preaches the need for genocide. If you could magically strip religion and religious crimes/responses to those crimes from the minds and memories of everyone involved, 99% of them would stand around scratching their heads, wondering what all the fuss was about.

Furthermore, what military leaders say to their own troops is immaterial here: the primary job of those leaders it to get peak performance, morale and courage from their fighters. Nothing else. IOW, they are merely trying to elicit a response from their own men when they speak, they are not "setting policy" for the US Gov't. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The Iran attacks for regime change have similar goals as the regime change Obama and NATO did with Gadaffi in Libya.

I could be wrong, but I honestly feel like Iranians are a more educated, less religiously indoctrinated group than the Iraqis and Libyans were back in those days. 

Iranians have a 98% literacy rate, with the internet bringing them more in-touch with the external world than ever before. Those other countries had literacy rates well below 80%, and all that they could do with what literacy they had was read some propaganda and the Quran.

30 years ago in Iraq and Libya there was no light: no actual understanding of the world outside of islamic tyranny could get through to them.

I think Iranians have a far better understanding of what the real world looks like than their neighbours 30 years ago did, just like Canadians have far more information available to us than we did back in the day when the CBC was our only information source. 

Edited March 29 by WestCanMan