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Posted
1 hour ago, User said:

Yeah, you have. Repeatedly over the years, you have said Ukraine started this war. You jumped into this discussion betwee, West and I where he was saying Russia did not start the war. 



 

Ok...you and West have fun.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
56 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, your Trump Dick Sucker syndrome is laughable.

Go watch and listen to any Trump speech and tell me if he can hold a thought to speak to for any more than a minute.  I'm looking forward to the State of The Union comedy hour tomorrow night to see him thoroughly embarrass himself again. 

I get all the illegal immigrant talk and agree that if you're 'illegal' we have a problem.... BUT if by all intents a solid citizen (ie; no record) then there should be a process to get you that legal path.  Murdering people like your ICE hero's did in MN isn't the way to approach that.  That said, why did the Biden admin deport more illegals in his last year of term than Trump did in his first when it was such a priority?  

 

 

Speak for a minute? The guy goes on for hours. I wish he would shut up. 

That you find him embarassing is not the issue, its your absurd claims he is in mental decline. 

If you are here illegally, you are not a citizen nor solid, you have already broken the law. 

No one was murdered, dumb people have been riled up to go out and directly interfere breaking the law and doing so endanger themselves and others, and when they threaten the lives of ICE officers, willingly or not, bad crap happens. That is not murder. 

You push these bogus talking points. Biden only deported more people in that he let the flood gates open at the border and encouraged so much illegal immigration that if you count turn aways at the border, he had more deportations. That doesn't mean interior deportations. 

 

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, your Trump Dick Sucker syndrome is laughable.

LOL,  now tell us again how much you respected biden because of his "Class and decency" :) ROFLMAO!!! 

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Had better start running."

Posted
1 hour ago, User said:

FYI, you certainly have spent a lot of time pushing propaganda as if you worked for Putin to justify their war against Ukraine and even now, you are here saying Ukraine started it. 

You're using the word "propaganda" wrong.

That word is only applicable when statements made are either entirely false or they're biased enough to be deceptive.

It's 100% true to say that:

  1. NATO leaders agreed not to push forward past Germany, but they have done so in a multitude of countries since then
  2. the US and Ukraine were jointly conducting work on biological warfare agents in Ukraine, which contravenes international laws regarding biological warfare
  3. the US funded and helped organize the Euromaidan protests to oust a president that worked well with Russia
  4. the US interfered, even partly controlled, Ukraine's gov't and elections
  5. Ukraine was shelling their own people in the Donbas region
  6. Russia's red line was "NATO in Ukraine", but Zelenski and the US kept pushing for it, with Biden even openly making statements in favour of that, going all the way back to when Biden was Obama's VP 
  7. the Azov brigade actually are Nazis, as advertised

Those things are all 100% accurate, they're also highly pertinent because they're all central to the issue of war in Ukraine.

You want to talk about the start of this war while ignoring all those key aspects regarding its start, and you also feel the need to say things which are false, or don't pass muster, like:

  • the US didn't fund and promote Eurmaidan
  • Ukraine wasn't at war with the people in the Donbas
  • the US didn't run Ukraine's election
  • this isn't just a case of the US using Ukraine for a proxy war
  • "It's no big deal that NATO reneged on their commitment to not move east past Germany, because it wasn't in writing"

Russia wasn't really dealing with "their neighbour, Ukraine". Russia was dealing with "a big, nasty bag of American BS": Zelenski is nothing more than a puppet of the US.

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Unprovoked is a subjectively meaningless term how you throw it around. If someone calls you a turd at the park, that is a provcation, but doesn't then justify you going to their house and burning it down, claiming "They provoked me!"

Which is what you are doing here to excuse and justify Russia's war.

Again, I am not the one sitting here playing dumb that if America bombs the shit out of Iran, that Iran started it. The difference between us is that you are apparently cheering for Russia and Iran, while I cheer for America. 

Sure, you can make the case that "provoked" is subjective, but there's no doubt that the US pushed and pushed and pushed until there was "not one inch past Germany left to push". 

It's a real a-hole move for Zelenski to let so many of his people die. 

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, your Trump Dick Sucker syndrome is laughable.

Says the guy with his hand in Biden's diaper. 

5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

...Biden from me other than.... he showed class, a sense of morals and human decency,

FYI there are very few people who the Dems would accuse of exhibiting flashes human decency from within their own party, and Joe's not one of them.

Fetterman and Manchin are the only names that spring to mind.

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If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
52 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Says the guy with his hand in Biden's diaper. 

FYI there are very few people who the Dems would accuse of exhibiting flashes human decency from within their own party, and Joe's not one of them.

Fetterman and Manchin are the only names that spring to mind.

Have you got your US citizenship yet and become a full fledge Maga-wing Republican, or still just a wannabe?

Posted
1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

It's 100% true to say that:

  1. NATO leaders agreed not to push forward past Germany, but they have done so in a multitude of countries since then
  2. the US and Ukraine were jointly conducting work on biological warfare agents in Ukraine, which contravenes international laws regarding biological warfare
  3. the US funded and helped organize the Euromaidan protests to oust a president that worked well with Russia
  4. the US interfered, even partly controlled, Ukraine's gov't and elections
  5. Ukraine was shelling their own people in the Donbas region
  6. Russia's red line was "NATO in Ukraine", but Zelenski and the US kept pushing for it, with Biden even openly making statements in favour of that, going all the way back to when Biden was Obama's VP 
  7. the Azov brigade actually are Nazis, as advertised

Those things are all 100% accurate, they're also highly pertinent because they're all central to the issue of war in Ukraine.

Except, these are not 100% true or are woefully lacking any context, meant to be deceptive by omittance. 

1. What leaders? What official agreement?

There was never any official agreement or binding agreement to do this. None. NATO never made any such agreement. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

2. This is an outright lie. It is literally Russian lies. There is no evidence of this. They were jointly working on biological lab safety, not the weaponization of anything. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

3. The United States backs democracy promotion across the globe, there was noting nefarious with the US creating those protests, but of course, since you love Russia so much, you are here taking their side. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

4. Another lie. No evidence of this. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

5. Ukraine was fighting against the separatists that Russia funded, equipped, and backed with Russian regular military and mercenaries. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

6. So what? NATO is a defensive alliance. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

7. No, they were not, they were certainly far right, and you might as well be a leftist now playing these dumb games, and Ukraine heeded the criticism and folded them fully into Ukraine military around 2014 nationalizing them and replacing leadership making them a standard military brigade. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

Those are all the reasons why I very accurately say you might as well be working for Putin pushing this propaganda for him. 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Sure, you can make the case that "provoked" is subjective, but there's no doubt that the US pushed and pushed and pushed until there was "not one inch past Germany left to push". 

It's a real a-hole move for Zelenski to let so many of his people die. 

You have made this stupid argument before, as NATO had already long ago moved beyond Germany, AND there was never any agreement not to. 

Zelenski is not letting his people die, Russia is killing them in an invasion. 

 

 

Posted
18 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I don't entirely disagree.  Always thought Biden was a weak president but what he did have that Trump is void of is morals and human decency. That still doesn't take away from the fact Trump is on the path to full blown dementia.  

Wrong. 

Biden was immoral in that he was into human trafficking as evidenced by the mass bum rush at our borders the second he got into the WH. 

Biden was a f*cking menace. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Deluge said:

Wrong. 

Biden was immoral in that he was into human trafficking as evidenced by the mass bum rush at our borders the second he got into the WH. 

Biden was a f*cking menace. 

I'd disagree with that but if you want to compare and choose the lesser of two old men that are years beyond thinking clearly.... I'll take Biden being a f*cking menace over Trump being a f*cking mor*n every day of week.

I never imagined that a person that f*cking stupid could possibly be in the position he's in.  If anything it gives hope to every other grifter and petulant narcissist that despite their lack of morals, decency and intelligence they too can be somebody if they lie enough and find willing dispsh*ts that believe it.  What a joke...

Posted
3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'd disagree with that but if you want to compare and choose the lesser of two old men that are years beyond thinking clearly.... I'll take Biden being a f*cking menace over Trump being a f*cking mor*n every day of week.

I never imagined that a person that f*cking stupid could possibly be in the position he's in.  If anything it gives hope to every other grifter and petulant narcissist that despite their lack of morals, decency and intelligence they too can be somebody if they lie enough and find willing dispsh*ts that believe it.  What a joke...

You'll disagree with anything that isn't woke.

Trump is not a m*ron. You're just pissed off that his ESG score is zero.

Trump has been tasked with turning this country around - not an easy thing to do when the other side of the fence wants it destroyed. But don't you worry, we're going to MAGA despite your hate. ;) 

Posted
13 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Have you got your US citizenship yet and become a full fledge Maga-wing Republican, or still just a wannabe?

You should be happy to have Trump as president. He clearly puts Americans first.

Only Brookfield is doing well in Canada this year. 

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'd disagree with that but if you want to compare and choose the lesser of two old men that are years beyond thinking clearly.... I'll take Biden being a f*cking menace over Trump being a f*cking mor*n every day of week.

I never imagined that a person that f*cking stupid could possibly be in the position he's in.  If anything it gives hope to every other grifter and petulant narcissist that despite their lack of morals, decency and intelligence they too can be somebody if they lie enough and find willing dispsh*ts that believe it.  What a joke...

It was the democrats that made trump look good. So regardless of how you feel simple fact of the matter is the democrats were worse and people reacted to that.

What the left should be doing is reflecting on that and going through a. Of honest self evaluation to take a look at how they let things get so bad that someone like trump look like a much better option.

Otherwise you just destined to see the same thing repeat again and again and not just in America

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
12 hours ago, User said:

Except, these are not 100% true or are woefully lacking any context, meant to be deceptive by omittance. 

1. What leaders? What official agreement?

There was never any official agreement or binding agreement to do this. None. NATO never made any such agreement. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

  • Manfred Woerner (NATO Secretary-General): In a speech on May 17, 1990, Woerner promised that NATO would not expand beyond the current borders of the Federal Republic of Germany.
  • James Baker (U.S. Secretary of State): On February 9, 1990, in Moscow, Baker told Gorbachev that if Germany were unified in NATO, there would be "no extension of NATO's jurisdiction or NATO's forces one inch to the east". This is frequently referred to as the "not one inch" statement.
  • Helmut Kohl (West German Chancellor): In a meeting with Gorbachev on February 10, 1990, Kohl stated that "naturally NATO could not expand its territory to the current territory of the GDR [East Germany]".
  • Margaret Thatcher (British Prime Minister): In talks with Gorbachev, she expressed that the Soviet Union needed to feel secure and that the West would not threaten the USSR's interests

Buddy, you've had years to get up to speed. Now you're just a f'ing liar.

I get that "just saying words" might not constitute any kind of a deal to you, but some people take their own promises seriously.

Apparently NATO, Germany, Britain, the US, etc do not.

12 hours ago, User said:

2. This is an outright lie.

 Correct: your statement is an outright lie.

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It is literally Russian lies. There is no evidence of this. They were jointly working on biological lab safety, not the weaponization of anything. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

The biolabs were working on cures for known biological warfare agents, which is actually highly aggressive in nature. 

If everything in those labs was supposedly legitimate, then what difference would it make if the Russians got their hands on it? 

FYI "Oh, noooo. Now the Russians also have the cure for the common cold!" 😂

"We're worried that Russian lies are now going to contain fabricated evidence".... OMG, are they accusing Russia of being the FBI?????

Maybe you think that bioweapon research doesn't constitute a justification for war, but Russia does, and they get to respond to threats as a sovereign nation, and saying "We trust the US" is just stupid, as we've already proven in #1, above.

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3. The United States backs democracy promotion across the globe,

Why didn't they come to Canada in 2021 then?

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there was noting nefarious with the US creating those protests,

So, you think that the US bringing down the gov't of Ukraine was a-ok? It's their job? 

Just look at the country that you're describing... They can make promises out one side of their mouth and then say "I don't see no written contract" out of the other? 

And then in your very next breath you say "The US said that they weren't researching bioweapons, so I believe them, but keeping non-military info away from the Russians is somehow critical. Oh no, wait, we need to keep them away from there so that they don't fabricate evidence that the US was uhhhhh, lying. Again."

12 hours ago, User said:

4. Another lie. No evidence of this. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

Wrong again.

Nuland was caught in a phone call saying that the US didn't want Klitchko to become president. And he didn't run.

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5. Ukraine was fighting against the separatists

So, like I said, Ukraine was killing the people of Donbas, using artillery shells. Thanks. 

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6. So what? NATO is a defensive alliance. This doesn't justify Russian invasion. 

BS. I have eyes you f'ing weasel. I know what it means when NATO and its members oust presidents, control elections, fund and organize violent riots, and break their most critical p r o m i s e s

13 hours ago, User said:

7. No, they were not, they were certainly far right,

OMG you sound like a leftard cultist now.

  1. They called themselves Nazis
  2. They put Nazi insignias on their banners and uniforms
  3. They put nazi tattoos on their bodies
  4. They committed war crimes

"But they weren't Nazis because I refuse to believe it!" lol. 

You guys are a riot. 

"I think that guy is a Nazi, because he doesn't like violent BLM riots. But the guy who says that he's a Nazi wand walks around with Nazi tattoos and insignias on his body and clothes isn't a Nazi, because I LOVE the war crimes that he is committing."

Just for shits and giggs, do you wanna see some real seedy but unsuccessful attempts to gloss over the Azovs' status as Nazis? Check this out:

  1. Early Allegations: "The group's early years, particularly during the 2014-2015 conflict in Donbas, were marked by allegations of abuse against civilians and prisoners from organizations like the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights."  
  2. The Azov Brigade has faced allegations of human rights abuses and links to neo-Nazi ideology since its inception in 2014, with early reports suggesting potential violations. However, since its integration into the Ukrainian National Guard, reports from international bodies like the UN have not substantiated widespread, systemic war crimes by the unit itself.

1. So the UN agreed with Russians and Ukrainian separatists that the Azovs were committing war crimes

2. Lots to unpack in this one... First, when they say "allegedly had links to Nazi ideology", they mean "they wore nazi symbols and called themselves f'ing Nazis". Looks like Google doesn't know what "allegedly means". Second, at the exact time that the Azovs were committing war crimes, 2014-2015, that's when Ukraine said "Hey, let's make these guys into a regular army unit", in 2014. Then they were still committing war crimes in 2015. Third, the Ukrainian regulars were killing POW's, and no one disputes that. So if it wasn't the Azovs, then there are more units in the Ukrainian army committing war crimes than just the Azovs. Oh SNAP! Go F yourself.

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Zelenski is not letting his people die, Russia is killing them in an invasion. 

Zelenski has had several opportunities to end the war, and it's not like his side has momentum. He's just sending kids to the meat grinder you f'ing tool.

 

 

I don't have all day to debunk your blatant lies, 1diotic propaganda and m0r0nic bullshit, but that was a pretty good skoolin' if I do say so myself. And Russia doesnt have to believe what's blatantly false either. They are responding to what's happening in the real world right under their noses, not your coy whitewashing of it all. 

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I never said they didn't start the war. I said they were goaded into it.

IF ^this were true, he wouldn't be doubling and tripling down on decimating his population.

Edited by robosmith
Posted
4 hours ago, Deluge said:

You'll disagree with anything that isn't woke.

Trump is not a m*ron. You're just pissed off that his ESG score is zero.

Trump has been tasked with turning this country around - not an easy thing to do when the other side of the fence wants it destroyed. But don't you worry, we're going to MAGA despite your hate. ;) 

Trump is the biggest id*ot to sit in the WH, or walk the planet for that matter.  I don't care what his ESG score is... you'll be trying to clean that and the restroom of his train wreck up long after he's gone.

Turning the country around... as in how?  His mandate was inflation and immigration... which he's failed on inflation to date and despite his props, he still didn't deport as many illegals in his first year than Biden did in his last. Good thing he has a low information support base in the Maga dipsh*ts.

Posted
3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You should be happy to have Trump as president. He clearly puts Americans first.

Only Brookfield is doing well in Canada this year. 

I don't have Trump as a president, thankfully.  He puts himself first....period.

Do you have a problem with asset managers in general, or just Brookfield?  

Posted
11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I don't have Trump as a president, thankfully.  He puts himself first....period.

Do you have a problem with asset managers in general, or just Brookfield?  

I have a problem with 

  1. zero trade deals for Canada, despite all of Carney's hobnobbing with foreign officials
  2. all of Brookfield's new billion-dollar business deals that Carney has generated by hobnobbing with foreign officials

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It was the democrats that made trump look good. So regardless of how you feel simple fact of the matter is the democrats were worse and people reacted to that.

What the left should be doing is reflecting on that and going through a. Of honest self evaluation to take a look at how they let things get so bad that someone like trump look like a much better option.

Otherwise you just destined to see the same thing repeat again and again and not just in America

I don't care what the democrats do, as long as they get a majority in the house this year and the full sweep 2028.  The guy is cancer and hopefully another cheeseburger or two leads to a quick exit in the not too distant future.

You appear to be quite enamoured with someone who is trying to break our economy. Not surprising given your home grown hero Poilievre is as well. The party of fools....

Posted
3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I have a problem with 

  1. zero trade deals for Canada, despite all of Carney's hobnobbing with foreign officials
  2. all of Brookfield's new billion-dollar business deals that Carney has generated by hobnobbing with foreign officials

1. You just have lots of problems. Foreign trade takes time but you've already the China agreement.

2. Sure, Carney is in this only to build his personal wealth.  I'd ask if you're really that foolish but I know the answer....  

Posted
3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1. You just have lots of problems. Foreign trade takes time but you've already the China agreement.

 

The china thing isn't any kind of trade deal, it's basically a verbal agreement between the two countries that china does not have to love to and can arbitrarily just ignore at any time. It is made no commitment. It didn't even commit to exactly how much it was going to reduce the tariffs

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1. You just have lots of problems. Foreign trade takes time but you've already the China agreement.

2. Sure, Carney is in this only to build his personal wealth.  I'd ask if you're really that foolish but I know the answer....  

Stop deflecting. It is what it is....

1. Carney is the one who said that he could get trade deals done in 6 months, not me, so stop trying to change his timeline now, donkey. If you thought that 6 months was impossible then you shoulda called him a liar when he said it. 

2. Oh yeah, the China agreement, that just set Canada/US trade relations to cold-war status. Good job???

3. Objectively, Carney's business - the one that he lied to Canadians about - has profited mightily since he became PM, more than once, while Canada has gained nothing. 

Do you have any facts to counter with, or are you done here? 

Edited by WestCanMan

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
15 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1. Trump is the biggest id*ot to sit in the WH, or walk the planet for that matter.  

2. I don't care what his ESG score is... 

3. Turning the country around... as in how?  

4. His mandate was inflation and immigration... which he's failed on inflation to date and despite his props,

5. he still didn't deport as many illegals in his first year than Biden did in his last.

6. Good thing he has a low information support base in the Maga dipsh*ts.

1. According to LinkMissing, The biggest ldiot to walk the planet is a billionaire. Let that sink in, everyone. lol

2. Oh, I think you do. His ESG score reflects his resistance to woke wankery. YOU are a woke wanker, therefore everyone who ISN'T a woke wanker is an ldiot. That's how you've been trained to think. 

3. Look at it this way: Every f*cking thing that you wokejobs think is good, is actually evil; Joe Biden was evil; his administration was evil; he spread evil over the entire country for four years - Trump needs to turn that all around. 

4. His mandate is inflation, immigration, the woke pathogen etc. See Agenda 47 for further details. 

5. Well, when you let 15 million aliens break into the country, you can afford to kick 5 million out - that still nets the a$$holes 10 million illegals. Trump has had the lower courts fighting him the entire way - he also has the media fighting him, NGO's, dumbf*cks like you, the list goes on and on and on. What I find interesting is that the Left treats immigrants like cattle. lol

6. Oh no, pervert, I am way WAY ahead of you on this. I see the left for what it is - all you see is the inside of the left's ass. 

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