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[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, User said:

Your argument keeps collapsing into circular logic.

You say:

1. Only Nazis have used that symbol for 80 years.

2. Azov used that symbol.

3. Therefore Azov were Nazis.

But the only reason you think “only Nazis used it” is because you’re already labeling anyone who uses it a Nazi.

That’s a loop, not evidence.

It’s like saying:
“Only criminals wear hoodies. That guy wore a hoodie. Therefore he’s a criminal.”

You’ve defined the conclusion into the premise.

The AI snippet you pasted doesn’t fix that. Those summaries compress messy history and often blur categories. Most serious sources describe early Azov as having far-right and neo-Nazi elements, not as a monolithic Nazi organization.

You keep turning:

• some extremist founders
• controversial symbols
• allegations against some fighters

into

• therefore everyone in the unit must be Nazis.

That leap is doing all the work in your argument. The caps lock and insults are just decoration.

Two neo-Nazi groups joined together and wore a symbol that only Nazis have worn in the past 80 years, and you're calling it a coincidence... "Sometimes Ukrainians choose emblems from GERMAN medieval heraldry". 

Regarding the Azovs, the chance of any group being a Nazi is 1 in a million. There are a lot of groups out there and almost none of them are Nazis. One of their groups was a Nazi group.

Multiply that by another 1/million, for the chances that they joined up with another group that just randomly happened to be Nazis, when they weren't looking for other Nazis to join up with.

Now multiply that by another 1/million, for the chance that they would just randomly pick a symbol from medieval GERMAN heraldry but they weren't looking specifically for something Nazis wear.

1/1,000,000 x 1/1,000,000 x 1/1,000,000. 

I chance in a quintillion that that's all random chance, and it wasn't a nazi group. 

Oh, wait, they "randomly" wore two Nazi symbols. Let's throw on another 1/1,000,000.

Now it's 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. One in a trillion trillions. 

So, I'm sayin' there's a chance...

[User]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

So, I'm sayin' there's a chance...

This is a good example of why your argument keeps falling apart. You’ve replaced evidence with made-up math.

Those “1 in a million” numbers are something you just invented. They’re not statistics, they’re vibes with exponents.

Probability only works if you have real data. You don’t.

You’re also still stuck in the same circular loop:

• you assume only Nazis use the symbol
• therefore anyone using it must be a Nazi
• therefore the symbol proves they’re Nazis

That’s the conclusion baked into the premise again.

And the “two Nazi groups” claim still rests on the same word trick you’ve been using all thread. The Social-National Assembly being far-right or having extremist members is not the same thing as literally being the Nazi Party because the words look similar.

At this point the argument is basically:

1. Start with the assumption they’re Nazis

2. Reinterpret everything through that assumption

3. Invent numbers to make it sound scientific

That isn’t analysis. It’s just storytelling with a calculator.