WTF are we doing with China??

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, Goddess said:

As the poll progressed, at the end it was over 60% of Canadians wanted their fellow citizens jailed.  I have the final tally of the poll screenshotted somewhere, I'll try to find it if I have time.

"Unvaccinated people were progressively villainized to the point that in a CTV poll, a large majority of Canadians said they believed unvaxxed people should be imprisoned and have their children taken away."

Yeah, when you have time...

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, Venandi said:

Actually here ya go, I guess it was 15%

Since when is 15% a large majority? That was the lie we're talking about.

[Venandi]

28 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Since when is 15% a large majority?

I didn't say 15% was a large majority.

Here's what I said:

"If memory serves it was running at about 18%" 

That was the only poll I remember trying to chase down and it was because I was surprised (appalled is a better word) that people would even consider such a thing.

Yes, I thought it was 18% and it turned out to be 15.... take that huge win and insert it sideways.

Even though you seem willing to take 15% in stride, I find it disconcerting, and that's simply a function of what people are willing to do if you scare them. Scaring the public isn't that hard either, it's an I/O technique. The funniest example of that I know of is the NS wolf hoax.

Look at some of the other stats in that news paper article posted... I cringe reading them. And just like residential schools, eugenics and Japanese internment, those who make up those statistical demographics no longer admit it. In fact, they deny the ever advocated for such a thing.

And that's only because they aren't scared anymore.

 

Edited January 22 by Venandi

[Barquentine]

1 minute ago, Venandi said:

I didn't say 15% was a large majority.

No. The original poster did.

 

1 minute ago, Venandi said:

Even though you seem willing to take 15% in stride

You can find 15% on just about any question, right or left.

[Venandi]

35 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Since when is 15% a large majority?

 

8 minutes ago, Venandi said:

I didn't say 15% was a large majority.

 

6 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

No. The original poster did.

WTF is wrong with you?

[Barquentine]

5 minutes ago, Venandi said:

WTF is wrong with you?

Try to follow the thread. I can't type any slower for you.

[John Stone]

.......... supposedly Bobby Kennedy jr. believes that to build, 'herd immunity' it is necessary for 'a' disease to run rampant through a society. Those that survive are the winners for 'that' exposure ......... but maybe not the next flavor 

In theory he is correct. 

An acquaintance' kid was vaccinated at a young age that left him severely handicapped. 

A nation that has left itself susceptible to disease thru the practice of discriminating against vax  in various ways is introducing a threat to national security. ..................... x10 considering the military. 

NBC is a real threat - Covid was a precursor. 

giggle n chuckles? 

Bio-weapons were extremely useful depopulating the west of indigenous ......... but my fav was how the Spanish used it to conquer the Mayan - Inca

[Goddess]

3 hours ago, Venandi said:

Yes, I thought it was 18% and it turned out to be 15

In the article I posted, at the time of writing, it was 27%.  As I said, as the poll progressed, the percentage went higher and higher.  I followed it closely at the time.  As one of the unjabbed, it was frightening.  My sister had been injured by the 2 jabs she took and was (still is) unable to work.  Her health record notes that she CANNOT have any boosters, it will kill her.  And because of what happened to her, I was not going to get any of the jabs.  We had many conversations about what we both were going to do if I was jailed, or she was jailed for not getting a booster - remember there were NO exemptions being given out.  Doctors who did give out exemptions quickly had their licenses revoked.  We worried what she would do if I went to jail and who would look after her - she needed almost constant care at the time. (Her injury is neurological - her legs go out from under her randomly and she is sometimes unable to get back up.  She was only 47 at the time.)

It was a very scary time for my sister and I, and it changed completely how I think of people.  I used to think people were mainly good.  That such a large portion of our population was willing to banish from society, jail, take children away, fire from jobs and careers, anyone who chose (for whatever reason, and I believe my reason was valid) to exercise their freedom of medical bodily autonomy.....I could not and still cannot believe it happened.

But it did.

EDIT TO ADD:

The reason I became so involved in researching the jabs, was trying to find help for my sister.  Trying to figure out if the injury could be reversed or improved.

The covid vaccine injured have been abandoned by their government who mandated the shots, abandoned by the captured medical community (thank gawd for the docs and scientists who have spoken out and continued to research and study) and abandoned by a public who loudly demanded that this vax be forced on everyone, and then called those injured by it "anti-vaxxers".

eyeball and others like to portray me as some kind of conspiracy kook.  But I wonder what they would have done if it happened to someone they loved?  Perhaps they are so complacent and apathetic that they would do nothing.  But that's just not me.

Edited January 22 by Goddess

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

eyeball and others like to portray me as some kind of conspiracy kook.

Because of the conspiracy kookery. It's ridiculous, it's over the top. It's infectious...effective and deadly. Stupidity, spread by word of mouth, whether by print, radio, tv, internet or over coffee at the klatch, was always COVID's favourite vector.

Face it, our gaslit, divided misinformed society was a sitting duck for COVID long before it ever arrived.  Why, it's almost like it was planned...

Yup, that's definitely a Theremin I hear in the background.

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, Goddess said:

Pure propaganda.

Peer reviewed propaganda.

[Goddess]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Stupidity, spread by word of mouth, whether by print, radio, tv, internet or over coffee at the klatch, was always COVID's favourite vector.

I agree.  It turned out the conspiracy theorists were right about everything with covid, and the MSM was spreading stupid lies.

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Peer reviewed propaganda.

Still propaganda, nonetheless.

Again, peer-review is not the apex of validation.  Reproducibility is.

[Goddess]

Carney's deal with the Chinese Communist Party says:

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"The two sides consented to provide mutual support and convenience for media to work in each other's countries ..."

Because we know that Canadian journalists (or any journalists) cannot work and report freely in China, this is only to the benefit of the Chinese state media.

It's a one-way deal.

The 2024 NSICOP report stated:

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when looking at covertly influencing Canadian opinion through media, the People’s Republic of China (PRC) has been the “most capable." They found that China is “interfering with Canadian media content via direct engagement with Canadian media executives and journalists.”

During Carney's recent trip to China, Canadian journalists admitted they used burner phones for the first time, to avoid being spied on by the Chinese government.

 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

Again, peer-review is not the apex of validation.  Reproducibility is.

That's right, like the evidence that the more conservative and right wing the country the higher the rate of death.

Time and time again it happened.

It was the opposite during the Spanish Flu where high death rates fueled extremist ideologies, namely fascism which blamed minorities and foreigners for the disease - of course there were a few jurisdictions that leaned more towards socialist liberal governments because they were perceived as being more competent.

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

 It turned out the conspiracy theorists were right about everything with covid, and the MSM was spreading stupid lies.

Absolutely wrong

[Goddess]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Because of the conspiracy kookery.

 

I'm not going to respond to your claims and accusations anymore until you can provide cites that are not "Discussion Papers" that are clearly ideologically driven and have enough knowledge to understand methodological flaws in studies, the basics of how the immune system works and have something intellectual to add to the discussion.

You just follow me around (I'm flattered, BTW) screech out a bunch of claims and accusations, quickly do a google search when called on it and name-call.

Right now I'm researching the latest papers on the RNA:DNA hybrid contamination found in the jabs.

If you need help figuring out what that is all about, ask your doctor.  I'm sure he knows all about it.

We'll compare notes when you feel you're up to speed.  

 

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Absolutely wrong

Oh?

That spike protein stays in the arm, does it?

Doesn't spread to other organs of the body?

95% effective?

Doesn't affect the human genome at all?

Was thoroughly tested?

Doesn't cause any myo/pericarditis?

No blood clotting issues?

I could go on, but you get the picture.

[eyeball]

27 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Right now I'm researching the latest papers on the RNA:DNA hybrid contamination found in the jabs.

Shouldn't you be researching for ways to investigate, name, charge, prosecute, convict and punish etc the small handful of psyop guys that have, according to you, murdered millions of people?

Why 82 pages chasing after and exposing so many mice-nuts when the elephants are laughing their asses off in the background? There must be thousands of goddess's like you with your data banks and big boards and you've got zilch.

Exactly how few people are you talking about anyway and how did they bamboozle billions of people and all their governments?

Never mind why.

[Goddess]

45 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Oh?

That spike protein stays in the arm, does it?

Doesn't spread to other organs of the body?

95% effective?

Doesn't affect the human genome at all?

Was thoroughly tested?

Doesn't cause any myo/pericarditis?

No blood clotting issues?

I could go on, but you get the picture.

Real science predicts.

[Goddess]

As part of this new partnership with China, Carney has given China's state media access to Canada.

China's state media is an extension of the CCP.

This is after numerous warnings from Canada's own intelligence agencies about China's media and foreign influence.  This did not have to be part of any trade agreement.

Carney's China Journalist Deal: A Catastrophic Betrayal of Canadian Security

In the current threat environment—where Canadian police have warned a federal candidate it was unsafe to campaign, where Chinese-language ecosystems have been tied to intimidation campaigns, and where Canadian intelligence reporting describes Chinese media as a central tool in Beijing’s election interference—the proposal is not merely naïve. By enlarging the very channels through which coercion, censorship, and Beijing’s vote-fixing schemes already operate, it may be recklessly dangerous.

Chinese police have paid Chinese-language journalists in Canada to locate and track targets. This is documented intelligence available to the Prime Minister in unredacted form. Mark Carney knows this.

Recall: Paul Chiang made his threatening comments about turning Joe Tay over to the Chinese consulate for a bounty at a gathering of Chinese-language journalists in Toronto—precisely the controlled media apparatus CSIS described.

[ironstone]

On 1/22/2026 at 1:04 PM, eyeball said:

Peer reviewed propaganda.

Peer reviewed is no guarantee of validity or accuracy. It can be just another case of 'follow the money'.

 

[eyeball]

28 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Peer reviewed is no guarantee of validity or accuracy. It can be just another case of 'follow the money'.

 

Or it could be a case of left-wing whistle-blowing academics that are fed up with the invalidity of so many of their peers these days and how it reflects on everyone. Good on them in this case.

Maybe right-wing academics could follow their example. I suspect the pay at places like the Fraser Institute is probably on their minds though.

[Goddess]

20 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Maybe right-wing academics could follow their example. I suspect the pay at places like the Fraser Institute is probably on their minds though.

Your outrage is always very selective.

You have no problem when Pfizer pays for a study, in spite of them being hit with the biggest fine in US history - for fraud and forging data.  Not to mention the opiod crisis.

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Your outrage is always very selective.

I actually thought the video ironstone posted was funny.

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You have no problem when Pfizer pays for a study, in spite of them being hit with the biggest fine in US history - for fraud and forging data.  Not to mention the opiod crisis.

Sure I have a problem with that. Should I bore you explaining why for the umpteenth time?

You seem to have a selective aversion to transparency and accountability like others around here whenever I suggest solutions to improve it.

But no that's not it, it's because  my feelings are a lie. You think I'm a CBC affiliated bot that's gaslighting you or some such thing.

LMAO!

 

[Goddess]

20 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You seem to have a selective aversion to transparency and accountability like others around here whenever I suggest solutions to improve it.

You don't post much in the way of solutions.  
"Cameras on politicians" is about the extent of it.

And you mock and shame anyone who suggests there should be more accountability so much, that I imagine you as Eeyore "Well.....that's just the way it is.....nothing we can do about it......we just have to live with it....."

Every reason given for needing more accountability is called "conspiracy theory" and "horseshit" by you.  So apparently, there is no need for accountability because there is nothing wrong going on in Liberalland.

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You think I'm a CBC affiliated bot that's gaslighting you or some such thing.

Yes.  For the reasons above.  Any information you spout is usually a CBC headline cliche.  Or Liberal party slogan.  And it never goes any deeper than that, with you.

24 minutes ago, eyeball said:

LMAO!

Indeed.

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You don't post much in the way of solutions.  
"Cameras on politicians" is about the extent of it.

Doing so certainly underscores the extent to which we could go. Politicians meanwhile don't seem to have much trouble proposing more body cameras for police or public spaces.

For years I've also proposed process guardians, human witnesses who can observe, record and report to the public.

I've also suggested a Parliament of Assembled Citizens drafted and vetted in a manner similar to vetting jurists with a vote by the public to clinch it. Pretty hard to lobby them I'd think.

In the meantime...

Most legislatures also offer webcasts of all or selected committee hearings, and an increasing number also archive and make available on-demand floor proceedings and committee hearings, available online for varying lengths of time. Archives in a handful of states go back to the late 1990s, and many others date to the mid- 2000s. California's Proposition 54, passed in 2016, requires videos to be available for 20 years (Calif. Const., Art. IV, sec 7(c)(2)).

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, many state legislatures have been meeting remotely and have been live-streaming floor sessions and committee hearings to ensure public access.

https://www.ncsl.org/state-legislatures-news/details/legislative-broadcasts-and-webcasts

Now we see politicians calling for anti-lying legislation. Itd probably just a matter of time before politicians irrevocably corner themselves. Eventually some will start covertly wearing cameras and then more openly and then they'll be as ubiquitous in the halls of power as anywhere else.

Will it be the end of the age of misinformation or bullshit? No, but it'll be a step in the right direction.

Keep an eye and ear out for holes in the noise, they should be easy to spot if wariness as opposed to mistrust becomes the default institution of accountability.