Nationalist Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 8 hours ago, Hodad said: You're misunderstanding Descartes--which is common. It's not a celebration of thinking or an attempt to assert the virtue of reason over faith. Not a mantra either. The fact of thinking is simply proof of one's own existence. Full stop. No. I think you misunderstand my sentiments on the matter. But that's OK. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Venandi Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 (edited) 11 hours ago, Hodad said: That's one of the principle problems with organized religion: rather than learning and internalizing the tools of decency, people rely on someone else's third-hand interpretation of a set of obscure rules. That's why it's so easy for a charismatic voice to bend them to evil ends--and why history is chock-full of sectarian atrocities. If people learned to effectively judge right and wrong for themselves we'd all be a lot better off. That sounds pretty close to the political cults of far left and far right to me. You need only replace the bold print in your own quote with "political extremists" to see why many consider extreme L/R creatures to be adherents of this new religion. The political centre is shrinking as a direct result of the expansion and acceptance of craziness. That means the territory occupied by folks who would call out the bad behaviour and ridiculous positions of both groups has been vacated... the concept of setting destructive / radical elements adrift in their own lifeboats has been forever abandoned. There will always be an equal and opposite reaction to extremes, in other words it was you who created Trump, you who got him elected, and you who paved the road and built the bridge to Crazy Island. Personally I'd pause the construction effort... Instead of continuing to build the largest political see-saw ever seen, I'd bulldoze the entire structure before the scene you see becomes a scene you haven't seen before. The current situation (and backlash) was perfectly predictable and IMO, you couldn't see it because of your own religious fervour. Now you're busy cutting down all the trees on Crazy Island and don't see the folly of that either. Instead you openly ridicule the people who ask what the ships (needed to escape Crazy Island) will be built out of. I really think you need to get out and see the effects of this degree of polarization in other places in order to understand what you don't want to happen in your own house. As it stands now, you and Herb think you're smart enough to make it all work, that people will leave old animosities and conflicts behind on arrival at your house only to find that you can't even get through Christmas dinner with your own relatives... or carry on a polite conversation on a public forum with strangers. In the I/O and CRM world it's called "strength of an idea," it's largely constructed on a foundation of faith and the complete disregard of growing evidence to the contrary. It causes people to ignore ambient conditions and stick to the original plan in the face of significant situational changes that warrant consideration, the development of a new plan, or the modification of an old one. It's the reason progressives don't do well in the military (IMO of course). Anyway, if you can pen the quote above you should also be able to see a reflection in the bathroom mirror. Edited January 14 by Venandi Quote
John Stone Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 On 1/12/2026 at 2:24 PM, eyeball said: No, I'm just an Earthling who's trapped on a little world where only a few humans seem to have any sense of where they are. .......... someone above my pay grade once explained that the human mind cannot comprehend the Universe. The Universe is widely believed to be infinite - no beginning and no end? The question is what existed before the Universe and the idea of no end is thought provoking. No end??? WTF Akin, but far more puzzling than the flat-earth crowd. Our detection equipment is like being in a bubble - detection / observation is limited to the circumference of the bubble. If the Universe is endless .......... then it stands to reason that the number of habitable planets are infinite. My fav scare tactic is the spectre of invasion - from space ......... 'they' know' we're here - the specie has been a beacon of electromagnetic waves since Marconi's first experiments. Those first and all since transmitted electromagnetic waves continue to radiate away from the earth - like a pebble dropped into a bucket of water. They will never completely dissipate. ......... they will propagate forever ....... detection is only limited by technology. At the appropriate distance from earth theoretically you could watch Leave it to Beaver, listen to Amos n Andy. Anyone believe that a specie that can traverse the Universe does not have that technology? Try not to pi$$ ur boots! If they are watching ......... it's likely a sitcom atmosphere on their turf. haha Quote
Deluge Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 (edited) 11 hours ago, eyeball said: What do you mean try, I mean that I am immune to the woke pathogen, therefore, I can rub the illness in your sick little faces. Edited January 14 by Deluge 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 12 hours ago, eyeball said: What do you mean try, with the easiest vector there ever was, word of mouth? You're sooo doomed. Mwahahaha! Actually what is stopping people from openly declaring war on whatever "culture" you want to call it, resisting the natural changes and progress of liberal trade and culture as well? At this point, there are culture warriors out there who have no problem declaring war on woke... folks who accept the precepts of openness and reject whatever the openness wants to call itself should maybe push back a little. I am noticing a lot more normies going on Facebook and telling the Chuds to shut up, which is nice to see ie. people expressing their opinions on Chudly embarassments, their bad fashion, fake YouTube, trust in bonkers Demagogues in power, etc. etc. Eyeball - your moment awaits ! 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Actually what is stopping people from openly declaring war on whatever "culture" you want to call it, resisting the natural changes and progress of liberal trade and culture as well? At this point, there are culture warriors out there who have no problem declaring war on woke... folks who accept the precepts of openness and reject whatever the openness wants to call itself should maybe push back a little. I am noticing a lot more normies going on Facebook and telling the Chuds to shut up, which is nice to see ie. people expressing their opinions on Chudly embarassments, their bad fashion, fake YouTube, trust in bonkers Demagogues in power, etc. etc. Eyeball - your moment awaits ! Mike thinks humans are an infestation to the planet and should probably be eradicated. Quote
Legato Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 30 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Actually what is stopping people from openly declaring war on whatever "culture" you want to call it, resisting the natural changes and progress of liberal trade and culture as well? At this point, there are culture warriors out there who have no problem declaring war on woke... folks who accept the precepts of openness and reject whatever the openness wants to call itself should maybe push back a little. I am noticing a lot more normies going on Facebook and telling the Chuds to shut up, which is nice to see ie. people expressing their opinions on Chudly embarassments, their bad fashion, fake YouTube, trust in bonkers Demagogues in power, etc. etc. Eyeball - your moment awaits ! That whole post was negated the moment you inserted the word "chud". You became a victim of your own thinking. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 24 minutes ago, Deluge said: Mike thinks humans are an infestation to the planet and should probably be eradicated. Not so. I am a human, and I have human friends. I enjoy humans. Not sure what bugs you ate for breakfast but you seem like a culture warrior. Take some Tylenol, go into bed and turn on AM radio. 14 minutes ago, Legato said: That whole post was negated the moment you inserted the word "chud". You became a victim of your own thinking. Are you offended by the word 'chud' ? Because, that would mean you admit to being one right ? There are left- and right- chuds... just as there are left- and right- id1ots... When someone puts their hand up and says "STOP INSULTING ID1OTS" .... well it tells me something ... 1 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Not sure what bugs you ate for breakfast but you seem like a culture warrior. Define "culture warrior" - it sounds suspiciously close to "cultist" which is another one you wokies like to use. Quote
Barquentine Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 On 1/12/2026 at 10:55 AM, Deluge said: White settled this country and made laws, so yes, in a sense, white does make right. All it took was some genocide and slavery. Quote
Legato Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Are you offended by the word 'chud' ? Because, that would mean you admit to being one right ? There are left- and right- chuds... just as there are left- and right- id1ots... When someone puts their hand up and says "STOP INSULTING ID1OTS" .... well it tells me something ... Not offended, manufactured pejoratives are just a ignorant persons way of attempting to belittle. You use that term often when bereft of anything intelligent to say. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 43 minutes ago, Barquentine said: All it took was some genocide and slavery. It took settling the country. Now, if you can't deal with that then go team up with some jihadists in the ME somewhere. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Define "culture warrior" - it sounds suspiciously close to "cultist" which is another one you wokies like to use. Another one who can't reply without making a little stick figure model of me. I hate humans, I am woke... You are unable to just talk without piling on fakeries. Culture warriors are at war with any culture they don't agree with. There are lot of examples. I'm not at war with any culture, but I am sick of the noise from Chuds here and elsewhere. Trump is in the Whitehouse so why aren't all these things fixed ? Why are there still transgender people ? Why is there still pride ? Why is the economy pretty much the same ? Chuds are crying somewhere... Unfortunately I don't know any 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Another one who can't reply without making a little stick figure model of me. I hate humans, I am woke... You are unable to just talk without piling on fakeries. Culture warriors are at war with any culture they don't agree with. There are lot of examples. I'm not at war with any culture, but I am sick of the noise from Chuds here and elsewhere. Trump is in the Whitehouse so why aren't all these things fixed ? Why are there still transgender people ? Why is there still pride ? Why is the economy pretty much the same ? Chuds are crying somewhere... Unfortunately I don't know any You invite criticism and ridicule, Mike, because you're not honest about where you stand politically. You should just come out and admit that you're a leftist - I'm sure you'd do a helluva better than pretty much all of the left-wing loons on this forum. What fakeries? Trannies aren't dominating the landscape anymore. Pride isn't plastered all over Washington anymore, and I see a lot less of that bullshit outside of Washington. Gas prices are a lot lower, and that's a pretty f*cking good step. 1 Quote
herbie Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 On 1/13/2026 at 7:57 AM, paxamericana said: It’s okay to be white. You have my permission. Coming out of the closet are you? Even learned the jingo I see. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: All it took was some genocide and slavery. Good thing indigenous people never committed genocide ends slavery. I don't see them feeling guilty about it constantly. https://y.yarn.co/ae8ee025-a051-48f1-8b6f-3fb7468ef7a8_text.gif Edited January 14 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 25 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Good thing indigenous people never committed genocide ends slavery. I don't see them feeling guilty about it constantly. Well, the Dorset people and Neutrals aren't exactly around to protest right ? I think we can acknowledge that they were barbaric at the time and simultaneously acknowledge that we could have been kinder at treating the vanquished. But public morality IS a thing. There is a Canadian moral sphere and that includes things that we DON'T say because people could be offended. You're not allowed to say things about white people where I work, but if you did I doubt you'd get fired. You'd get a scolding. If you said something about black folks you would probably get fired. Is that fair ? Probably not but... hey... the winners write the rules. The winners here being the wealthy white elites who need to feel better about their relative comfort etc. etc. If there were no such thing as a public moral sphere we couldn't agree that laziness, avarice and all the rest are bad could we ? So there definitely IS one, and figuring out what it is is going to involve some fighting, let's be honest. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: You're not allowed to say things about white people where I work, but if you did I doubt you'd get fired. You'd get a scolding. If you said something about black folks you would probably get fired. Is that fair ? Probably not but... hey... the winners write the rules. The winners here being the wealthy white elites who need to feel better about their relative comfort etc. etc. Maybe. Depends on what you say. Or maybe we still need to counterbalance the 'Tyranny of the Majority'. All the statistics on employment, income, etc.. suggest so. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Maybe. Depends on what you say. Or maybe we still need to counterbalance the 'Tyranny of the Majority'. All the statistics on employment, income, etc.. suggest so. I'm not suggesting any policy change, or culture change... even if that were possible. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm not at war with any culture, but I am sick of the noise from Chuds here and elsewhere. Trump is in the Whitehouse so why aren't all these things fixed ? Why are there still transgender people ? Oh man, without a doubt, you are 100% a culture warrior which is why you are fixated on transgender people here. It is just part of your tactics and strategy to pretend you are not and play silly obfuscation games because you can't advance your ideas based on facts and logic, only vague emotional arguments that you immediately retreat from when challenged so those do not fall apart either. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 30 minutes ago, User said: 1. Oh man, without a doubt, you are 100% a culture warrior 2. which is why you are fixated on transgender people here. 3. It is just part of your tactics and strategy to pretend you are not and play silly obfuscation games because you can't advance your ideas based on facts and logic, 4. emotional arguments that you immediately retreat from when challenged so those do not fall apart either. 1. Incorrect. I am a 0% culture warrior. Let me ask you: list the top 5 good things Biden did in office. 2. Am I ? True to my roots let me look at my last 20 posts, a number I just picked at random. Ok looks like 2 mentions... which I would say is me asking about transgender issues generally and how they relate to culture and politics, responding to people who say I am work or somesuch... I don't think that counts as fixated. 3. Yeah... no tactics, no strategy... I had 2 minutes free to answer your post and I did so. I didn't consult a big workflow diagram or mind-map diagram just chatted on it... 4. Appeals to fear are also emotional arguments... if people overemphasize emotions in arguments about the law I think it's pretty fair they're making an emotional argument. I'm a systems guy you see... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Incorrect. I am a 0% culture warrior. Let me ask you: list the top 5 good things Biden did in office. LOL, you are in almost any thread where transgender is mentioned, obfuscating and defending the trans ideology and policy madness. 100% you are a culture warrior and your denials are just part of your tactics. 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. Am I ? True to my roots let me look at my last 20 posts, a number I just picked at random. Ok looks like 2 mentions... which I would say is me asking about transgender issues generally and how they relate to culture and politics, responding to people who say I am work or somesuch... I don't think that counts as fixated. See? More silly obfuscation. You are in just about any/every thread on this subject. On this forum and the other one. Even here, you were the one to make mention of it as you did. 8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 3. Yeah... no tactics, no strategy... I had 2 minutes free to answer your post and I did so. I didn't consult a big workflow diagram or mind-map diagram just chatted on it... Yes, you do have tactics and strategy you employ here and I have called you out repeatedly on this in many discussions. 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 4. Appeals to fear are also emotional arguments... if people overemphasize emotions in arguments about the law I think it's pretty fair they're making an emotional argument. I'm a systems guy you see... No, that is the point, you are not a systems guy, you are an obfuscation guy. You push emotional arguments on the trans issue then quickly retreat from them when challenged. Quote
ironstone Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 23 hours ago, Barquentine said: All it took was some genocide and slavery. You do know that it wasn't only white people alone that did those horrible things right? And before Europeans arrived in North American, indigenous people weren't exactly like they've been portrayed in Disney movies. https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/military-history/history-heritage/popular-books/aboriginal-people-canadian-military/warfare-pre-columbian-north-america.html Despite the myth that Aboriginals lived in happy harmony before the arrival of Europeans, war was central to the way of life of many First Nation cultures. At a community level, warfare played a multifaceted role, and was waged for different reasons. Some conflicts were waged for economic and political goals, such as gaining access to resources or territory, exacting tribute from another nation or controlling trade routes. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Deluge Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Maybe. Depends on what you say. Or maybe we still need to counterbalance the 'Tyranny of the Majority'. All the statistics on employment, income, etc.. suggest so. The left trying to "counterbalance" anything is an act of war at this point. There's no more room for you shitheads. Quote
Barquentine Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 22 hours ago, ironstone said: At a community level, warfare played a multifaceted role, and was waged for different reasons. Some conflicts were waged for economic and political goals, such as gaining access to resources or territory, exacting tribute from another nation or controlling trade routes. So you couldn't say I was wrong. Quote
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