ICE Finally Fires Back!

[TreeBeard]

 

The sofa-humping VP called her a “domestic terrorist”. 

Edited January 9 by TreeBeard

[User]

7 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

 

The sofa-humping VP called her a “domestic terrorist”. 

And?

[West]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Yes it is SAD that you believe ^this OPINION is anywhere NEAR the truth.

Foreign immigration and xenophobes like yourself have a LONG HISTORY in the US.

We even have a plaque on the Statue of Liberty celebrating  foreign immigrants.

 

left wing INSURRECTIONISTS are calling for the hanging of Kristi Noem. 

 

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

He’s bang on correct.  Shooting mothers of three for no reason is a bad thing.   You have to be a complete nut to think it’s ok.  

Have you even bothered to watch the video of this event? And if you have, how on earth can you say there's 'no reason'?

Nobody on the conservative side will be happy about this woman losing her life, but she is the one that made a decision to take the situation to another level. If she simply did what they told her to do, she would be alive.

Already they are trying to create another George Floyd scenario.

 

[ironstone]

23 hours ago, Radiorum said:

What is wrong with you? How have you sunk so low that you would applaud the killing of a mother of a six-year-old child? Have you no decency? You need to look inside your hearts and discover how you got so twisted.

You are the ones that would have marched people to the gas chambers. You make me sick.

Nobody is applauding her death, and anyone that does must be called out for it.

You refer to that horrible period when people were marched to the gas chambers, but in the present day it's mainly people from your side that support the actions of Hamas against the descendants of the holocaust.

It's mainly people from your side that complained that the Trump assassin failed.

It's mainly people from your side that danced and cheered when Charlie Kirk was shot.

It's not us that should be looking in the mirror.

[TreeBeard]

12 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Nobody on the conservative side will be happy about this woman losing her life

Not true.  There is absolute glee among conservatives. 
 

only a complete nut would think it’s ok to shoot a mother of 3 for no reason.  

[bush_cheney2004]

10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

only a complete nut would think it’s ok to shoot a mother of 3 for no reason.  

 

Agreed...she was shot for a reason.

[User]

21 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Not true.  There is absolute glee among conservatives. 
 

only a complete nut would think it’s ok to shoot a mother of 3 for no reason.  

Again, it was not for "no reason" as you keep dishonestly claiming. 

[West]

Left wingers are DESPERATELY trying to change the topic on the day care fraud. Did they intentionally try to MURDER an ICE agent to play victim? Sure looks that way

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, User said:

Again, it was not for "no reason" as you keep dishonestly claiming. 

They're dishonesty is proportional to how frustrated they are about the truth.

The truth is as sad as it is that she died, she died because she made a very bad decision and put the life of a federal agent at risk. Apparently at the insistence of her wife she went to that scene, caused trouble on purpose, then refused police officers instructions and then drove her car at a cop who very reasonably felt his life was in danger and shot her. It is a series of decisions that she made that led to her death.

And if she hadn't died she'd be in jail. Which would also have been a stupid decision on her part.

People need to learn that it's not okay to interfere with ice. You cannot like what they're doing, you can protest legitimately, you can try and change the government there are midterms coming up there's a lot of things you have in the way of options but you don't have the option of interfering with police or threatening their lives.

I feel it's a tragedy this girl is dead but the tragedy is that she listened to her wife and did something stupid and made bad decisions and didn't realize that she wasn't entitled to put officer's lives at risk. And now she's dead.

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, West said:

Left wingers are DESPERATELY trying to change the topic on the day care fraud. Did they intentionally try to MURDER an ICE agent to play victim? Sure looks that way

No. By all accounts this woman was not an activist or even terribly political. Probably leaned left but all family and friends say she's never had any interest in activism.

Her wife on the other hand is a bit more activist and apparently according to her wife the wife talked her into going down there and causing trouble that day.

I think what happened is that she got into a situation and then suddenly realize she might be in real trouble and decided to try and flee the scene when they were going to arrest her and foolishly when she decided to leave drove right at a police officer that was standing in front of her vehicle.

I doubt very much that she meant to kill him. But from the officers perspective you've got a person not listening to instructions and then backing up and flooring the car right in your direction without any regard for your safety and actually hitting you.

And that officer recently was struck by another vehicle doing exactly the same thing and was dragged for dozens of feet and required stitches and hospitalization. So he knows exactly what kind of threat a car coming at him like that is.

So of course he shot her. He has no idea what her intention is and she's driving right at him.

This is just a sad story, the woman probably got into a situation she wasn't able to handle, got emotional, decided she was going to flee the scene and in a moment to panic drove right at a cop possibly without even realizing he was there but the cop had no choice as she hit him with her car but to defend himself

[West]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No. By all accounts this woman was not an activist or even terribly political. Probably leaned left but all family and friends say she's never had any interest in activism.

Her wife on the other hand is a bit more activist and apparently according to her wife the wife talked her into going down there and causing trouble that day.

I think what happened is that she got into a situation and then suddenly realize she might be in real trouble and decided to try and flee the scene when they were going to arrest her and foolishly when she decided to leave drove right at a police officer that was standing in front of her vehicle.

I doubt very much that she meant to kill him. But from the officers perspective you've got a person not listening to instructions and then backing up and flooring the car right in your direction without any regard for your safety and actually hitting you.

And that officer recently was struck by another vehicle doing exactly the same thing and was dragged for dozens of feet and required stitches and hospitalization. So he knows exactly what kind of threat a car coming at him like that is.

So of course he shot her. He has no idea what her intention is and she's driving right at him.

This is just a sad story, the woman probably got into a situation she wasn't able to handle, got emotional, decided she was going to flee the scene and in a moment to panic drove right at a cop possibly without even realizing he was there but the cop had no choice as she hit him with her car but to defend himself

Possibly. I still stand by my assertion they are using ANYTHING to distract from the massive fraud just uncovered. Its sad she lost their life but being a woke activist who targets law enforcement is playing with fire

[bush_cheney2004]

17 minutes ago, West said:

Possibly. I still stand by my assertion they are using ANYTHING to distract from the massive fraud just uncovered. Its sad she lost their life but being a woke activist who targets law enforcement is playing with fire

 

This is true in the short term, but the massive fraud story will have much longer media legs, locally and nationally as other states get exposed.   Team Trump has been hammering Walz & Co. relentlessly from the jump, and how he is on the ropes politically, a far cry from U.S. vice presidential candidate and future president.   What a downfall !

Minnesotans (especially rural folks) are totally disgusted with what has been going on under the Walz regime for fraud, sanctuary cities, illegals' drivers licenses, higher payroll taxes for paid leave, more restrictive gun laws, DEI hiring, and woke-ism (e.g. trans rights in high school sports).

My own wife is a staunch Democrat but can't wait to see Walz go....just sick of him.

[West]

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

This is true in the short term, but the massive fraud story will have much longer media legs, locally and nationally as other states get exposed.   Team Trump has been hammering Walz & Co. relentlessly from the jump, and how he is on the ropes politically, a far cry from U.S. vice presidential candidate and future president.   What a downfall !

Minnesotans (especially rural folks) are totally disgusted with what has been going on under the Walz regime for fraud, sanctuary cities, illegals' drivers licenses, higher payroll taxes for paid leave, more restrictive gun laws, DEI hiring, and woke-ism (e.g. trans rights in high school sports).

My own wife is a staunch Democrat but can't wait to see Walz go....just sick of him.

There are some rumblings that this fraud is also impacting elections in certain states. That'll get interesting when/if the voter fraud gets revealed with all the reciepts

The US is also most likely paying for these astroturfed protests 

54 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No. By all accounts this woman was not an activist or even terribly political. Probably leaned left but all family and friends say she's never had any interest in activism.

Her wife on the other hand is a bit more activist and apparently according to her wife the wife talked her into going down there and causing trouble that day.

I think what happened is that she got into a situation and then suddenly realize she might be in real trouble and decided to try and flee the scene when they were going to arrest her and foolishly when she decided to leave drove right at a police officer that was standing in front of her vehicle.

I doubt very much that she meant to kill him. But from the officers perspective you've got a person not listening to instructions and then backing up and flooring the car right in your direction without any regard for your safety and actually hitting you.

And that officer recently was struck by another vehicle doing exactly the same thing and was dragged for dozens of feet and required stitches and hospitalization. So he knows exactly what kind of threat a car coming at him like that is.

So of course he shot her. He has no idea what her intention is and she's driving right at him.

This is just a sad story, the woman probably got into a situation she wasn't able to handle, got emotional, decided she was going to flee the scene and in a moment to panic drove right at a cop possibly without even realizing he was there but the cop had no choice as she hit him with her car but to defend himself

I'll just respond to add that i just read this woman was part of a group following around and harassing ICE agents the whole day. 

I blame the the Democrat party and their media lackeys for escalating assaults against law enforcement 

Edited January 9 by West

[bush_cheney2004]

18 minutes ago, West said:

I'll just respond to add that i just read this woman was part of a group following around and harassing ICE agents the whole day. 

 

 

Yes...there are several anti-ICE groups ranging from passive "constitutional" observer/witnesses to hard core antifa anarchists.   The summer peak saw lots of action in Portland, downtown L.A., and Chicago (Broadview) at detention facilities.   They have since lost steam with ICE's relentless pursuit of illegals and lost court battles over protest protocols, obstruction, etc.   ICE has grown less tolerant of their illegal tactics.

So now it's more passive observing, video recording, getting detainees contact info for family, and some street blocking with vehicles.  They are frustrated with Trump's vigorous roundups (snatching people off the street),  and the lack of wider outrage by people who don't think and act like them.    It's the usual suspects....

[West]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes...there are several anti-ICE groups ranging from passive "constitutional" observer/witnesses to hard core antifa anarchists.   The summer peak saw lots of action in Portland, downtown L.A., and Chicago (Broadview) at detention facilities.   They have since lost steam with ICE's relentless pursuit of illegals and lost court battles over protest protocols, obstruction, etc.   ICE has grown less tolerant of their illegal tactics.

So now it's more passive observing, video recording, getting detainees contact info for family, and some street blocking with vehicles.  They are frustrated with Trump's vigorous roundups (snatching people off the street),  and the lack of wider outrage by people who don't think and act like them.    It's the usual suspects....

Most likely astroturfed funded by US tax payers via fraud

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, West said:

left wing INSURRECTIONISTS are calling for the hanging of Kristi Noem. 

 

Another random ^tweet that means NOTHING because anyone can post LIES.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

Have you even bothered to watch the video of this event? And if you have, how on earth can you say there's 'no reason'?

Nobody on the conservative side will be happy about this woman losing her life, but she is the one that made a decision to take the situation to another level. If she simply did what they told her to do, she would be alive.

Already they are trying to create another George Floyd scenario.

Masked men with guns storming a car tend to make women freak out.

Esp when they are often guilty of detaining citizens for NO REASON.

If they always did what they're supposed to do, she would still be alive.

Instead they break ALL THE RULES because they believe they are above the law like Trump. 🤮

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

It's mainly people from your side that complained that the Trump assassin failed.

It's mainly people from your side that danced and cheered when Charlie Kirk was shot.

Did you take a poll on ^these. I don't believe for a minute you're doing more than speculating without evidence.

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

It's not us that should be looking in the mirror.

Yes it IS. You're believing a group that has NO CREDIBILITY and you don't even understand how much they're LYING.

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed...she was shot for a reason.

And what was that? To discourage citizens from challenging their LAW BREAKING.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

Left wingers are DESPERATELY trying to change the topic on the day care fraud. Did they intentionally try to MURDER an ICE agent to play victim? Sure looks that way

Too bad you're so blind you still believe random tweets.

[bush_cheney2004]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And what was that? To discourage citizens from challenging their LAW BREAKING.

 

To discourage one citizen from law breaking...and it worked.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

Possibly. I still stand by my assertion they are using ANYTHING to distract from the massive fraud just uncovered. Its sad she lost their life but being a woke activist who targets law enforcement is playing with fire

Launching investigations is NOT "uncovered." Duh

You haven't heard about the Republicans latest campaign strategy of making up shit about welfare fraud.

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As of January 2026, the Republican campaign strategy heavily features a focus on alleged welfare fraud, particularly targeting Democratic-led states and focusing on social safety net programs to justify funding cuts and, according to critics, create a political narrative for the 2026 midterm elections. 

This strategy involves using allegations of "waste, fraud, and abuse" as a pretext to cut billions from programs like Medicaid, child care grants, and SNAP. 

Key Aspects of the 2026 Strategy:

• Targeting Blue States: The Trump administration is targeting California, New York, Colorado, Illinois, and Minnesota, freezing over $10 billion in child care and social services funding, citing "serious concerns about widespread fraud," despite critics calling it political retribution.
• The Minnesota Focus: A significant part of the campaign revolves around alleged fraud within Minnesota’s Feeding Our Future program, which has been used by Republicans to criticize Democratic Governor Tim Walz. This has resulted in the freezing of state child care funds and accusations that the administration overlooked fraud for political gain.
• National Fraud Investigation: Vice President JD Vance announced a new, nationwide "fraud-fighting" position to investigate social services fraud, starting with Minnesota, with a goal of "getting the bad guys".
• Justification for Cuts: Republicans argue these measures are necessary to prevent the looting of the treasury, while critics argue they are cutting essential services for the poor to fund tax cuts for the wealthy.
• Racialized Rhetoric: Some claims have included targeting specific immigrant communities, such as Somali Americans in Minnesota, with accusations of fraud. 

Criticisms and Context:

• Lack of Evidence: Critics and some state officials have reported that the administration has not provided sufficient evidence for the alleged widespread fraud, leading to accusations that the claims are manufactured to justify targeting blue states.
• Pretext for Reductions: Analysts suggest the "fraud" claims are a convenient excuse to dismantle safety net programs like Medicaid, which 80% of the public actually opposes cutting.
• Weaponization: Democrats and advocates argue that the GOP is using "fake outrage" and exaggerated claims to serve rich donors while causing harm to vulnerable populations. 

The strategy has been described as a "war on the poor" and a way for the GOP to create a "nationwide effort" to control the narrative regarding public assistance and, in particular, to make inroads in traditionally blue states like Minnesota

 

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

To discourage one citizen from law breaking...and it worked.

Killing one activist is completely counter productive to ICE because it just pisses off millions of citizens who can OPPOSE the actions AND vote them out. 

Edited January 9 by robosmith

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Killing one activist is completely counter productive to ICE because it just pisses off millions of citizens who can OPPOSE the actions. 

 

Maybe, but far fewer will try to drive their Honda Pilot SUV at ICE officers.   The protesters can bytch all they want, as is their right, but they cannot obstruct ICE operations.   

[robosmith]

28 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Maybe, but far fewer will try to drive their Honda Pilot SUV at ICE officers.   The protesters can bytch all they want, as is their right, but they cannot obstruct ICE operations.   

She didn't "drive at ICE officers." Look at the WHEELS in the video and you'll see she was TURNING RIGHT to get away from Ross.

Ross didn't even move cause he was busy AIMING AT HER. That is MURDER, esp because he kept firing after she had passed him to the right.

Are you really that DUMB?

[User]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

She didn't "drive at ICE officers." Look at the WHEELS in the video and you'll see she was TURNING RIGHT to get away from Ross.

Ross didn't even move cause he was busy AIMING AT HER. That is MURDER, esp because he kept firing after she had passed him to the right.

Are you really that DUMB?

Yes, she drove at an ICE officer and hit one. He was aiming at her because she was accelerating towards him. That is not murder, it is self-defense.