Imported Muslim terrorist offs 11 Jews celebrating the first day of Hanukkah.

[Michael Hardner]

10 hours ago, West said:

Thats your stat

No it's not.

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Mike i spent the last decade of my IT career surrounded by them.  

Yeah, even a small well-run survey provides more perspective than your singular experience sorry.

I don't accept your story more than PEW.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

No it's not.

Yeah, even a small well-run survey provides more perspective than your singular experience sorry.

I don't accept your story more than PEW.

So dont. I'll go with my personal experience...you go with PEW.

[Goddess]

35 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So dont. I'll go with my personal experience...you go with PEW.

We had one at work, too.  Bangladeshi.

Claimed to have credentials in IT, turned out he didn't and was just watching movies all day.

He quit and moved to Calgary when he figured out we were on to him.

[WestCanMan]

27 minutes ago, Goddess said:

We had one at work, too.  Bangladeshi.

Claimed to have credentials in IT, turned out he didn't and was just watching movies all day.

He quit and moved to Calgary when he figured out we were on to him.

No doubt he put your company down on his resume lol. 

Imagine how proud the blue-hair in a Calgary HR dept was when she got the chance to hire someone who checks so many DEI boxes. 

[Nationalist]

31 minutes ago, Goddess said:

We had one at work, too.  Bangladeshi.

Claimed to have credentials in IT, turned out he didn't and was just watching movies all day.

He quit and moved to Calgary when he figured out we were on to him.

Yup. Seen similar. I interviewed an East Indian ans realized quickly he had lied on his resume.

[Goddess]

45 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yup. Seen similar. I interviewed an East Indian ans realized quickly he had lied on his resume.

It caused a lot of problems for our business and set us back over a year.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Legato said:

What are you doing here?

Pointing out your blatant CLOWNISH BEHAVIOR because all you post is JOKES.

[Legato]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Pointing out your blatant CLOWNISH BEHAVIOR because all you post is JOKES.

Well a little humour always tickled the cat.

[herbie]

Just checking in on the local Nazis touting their racist bullshit as truths.
Still at it, nonstop.

[West]

I am sure importing a bunch of people who's values don't align with Canadian values doesnt help curtail the rise in antisemitism 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Just checking in on the local Nazis touting their racist bullshit as truths.
Still at it, nonstop.

Ob NOES!!!!  A radical leftist called right wingers a nazi!!!   HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!?!?!

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

It caused a lot of problems for our business and set us back over a year.

Ouch! Sounds like you found out the hard way.

[Michael Hardner]

23 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

 There is no misunderstanding. You just got called out for your views and you don't like it 

I actually enjoy discussion with reasonable people with whom I disagree.  I learn a lot and change my views too sometimes.

But given the amount of effort you put into your response above, you don't seem to understand this:

 

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I have been polite with you.  Please retract.

I'm not continuing until you retract.  

[Michael Hardner]

21 hours ago, User said:

 

The point was: Regardless if people engage with you more civilly, you will come up with some other excuse to run away when your points are criticized or especially when your tactics on here to obfuscate or not engage earnestly get called out. 

No I don't think so.  I don't remember discussions with you from the top of my mind, but we did have discussions and I don't remember you being insulting.  I vaguely recall getting mired in semantic discussions that stopped progress.  

"not engage earnestly" goes both ways.  I would be more generous and say that we couldn't agree on the terms of the discussion.  I respect that you wanted to continue but for me there are limits.  I wouldn't have "run away".

[Michael Hardner]

20 hours ago, Deluge said:

1. Simple? Yes - you simply put it to a vote. 

2. Politically tenable? Yes, absolutely. You either assimilate to this Christian nation or you go back to the ME. 

3. Morally correct? Yes, absolutely. Jesus has to be the chief societal influence, not Allah.

4. Move to the ME if you want Allah to be the chief societal influence. 

 

1. That wouldn't work.  You can't vote away constitutional rights.
2. That's your point of view but you would have to deal with people who disagree with you to pass this through constitutional challenges/procedures.  Pretty difficult and that's politics.
3. Hahahaha.  Well that's not a serious suggestion, and has no precedence in modern Canadian law.  If you just want something, you can't close your eyes and make a big wish like when you were a kid.  There are other people to deal with.
4.  Ahhhhh.... no.  Countries in the ME largely offer no freedom of religion, so that sounds like more of a place for you.

Not a good chat, but we had one... and you didn't insult me.

[Michael Hardner]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1. That's your willful ignorance again and poor grasp of statistics talking again, MH.

 2. And that's what we are actually taking about MH, is how evil some groups are, comparatively speaking, not how good their planning and execution is.

3. By your logic, law enforcement officials need to allow some of these attacks to be successful in order to get enough funding from the gov't to prevent or respond to future attacks. Right?

4. LPOC Cultist logic: ...

1. Stop making personal comments.  We started with different parameters to analyze the problem, that's it.  I'm not going to go back to do research on "threats" against Muslims.  Not enough time.  I could go back to you and call you names and say you ignored Murders and missed the impact of the Quebec shootings but I am being respectful here and taking your arguments as honest.

2.  You can't come up with objective statistics to assess the "evilness" of a subgroup of people.  It's a Tower of Babel problem, because someone can always come up with a set to demonize any group including whites, Europeans, Christians etc. etc.  I have seen posts demoning Christians and Jews both this week alone, based on "objective" stats.  

3. No, that's ridiculous.  Of course we investigate threats.  Your assertion that there are more "threats" from one group has not been challenged by me in this conversation either.

In the past here I got someone suspended, when they went off at my suggestion that they could use that framework to demonize Black Americans and ban them from coming here based on crime statistics. "How DARE YOU !" was the gist of his response back to me.

4.  Ok, I'm out of time to respond and you're starting with your pejorative slams, and talking about the Liberal Party which I don't support so ... a good time to jump off this post.

Have a day, my friend...

[Michael Hardner]

19 hours ago, Legato said:

1. That biased miniscule cherry picked "survey". Well done.

2. No need to, or not to believe, you again are in defense of the indefensible.

3. Seems you are very easily convinced due to your abysmal research capability.

1. Biased ?  PEW ?  People use it on here to justify anti-Muslim beliefs so .... no.  You seem like the kind of person who waits to read the results then calls "bias" when they don't like it.
2. And yet, there is convincing evidence.  You don't believe because... well, we're not sure.  I do.
3. Ok... and yet another person who runs out of ideas and then needs to insult me... carry on, we are done now.

[Michael Hardner]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 You're a terrible person Mike.

I wasn't going to respond and didn't read your post, but glanced at this part.  Sorry you feel that way, we did have a civil exchange recently.

I still don't get why you post with me if I'm so terrible.  Doesn't seem to check out, sorry.

Anyway - moving on for now...

15 hours ago, Goddess said:

After I took another bit of a hiatus from here, I came back and saw MH calling everyone chuds.

I had to look it up, never heard of it before.

I don't call people HERE Chuds, that would be an insult.  If I have done that I retract.

I speak of Chudism as a phenomenon of the public sphere, is all.

I like you, keep posting  

[West]

55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I actually enjoy discussion with reasonable people with whom I disagree.  I learn a lot and change my views too sometimes.

But given the amount of effort you put into your response above, you don't seem to understand this:

 

I'm not continuing until you retract.  

1. We know that antisemitic violence is on the rise in the west. See the tweet. 

2. Most of the time its someone yelling "Allah Snackbar" as they detonate themselves in a crowd of people, burn down a Synagogue or shoot Jewish people on a beach. 

3. When do we say enough is enough and do not allow these ideologies into our countries in the west? 

4. Before you again make the false equivalency with Christianity, there is nowhere near the level of violence. Just people holding to traditional views of marriage. The line gets crossed at murder and assassination

[Michael Hardner]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So dont. I'll go with my personal experience...you go with PEW.

Absolutely.

But ask yourself this - if I gave you personal information that contradicted ... let's say ... "institutional" facts.  

Would you believe me ?  

Honest question.

13 hours ago, Goddess said:

We had one at work, too.  Bangladeshi.

Claimed to have credentials in IT, turned out he didn't and was just watching movies all day.

He quit and moved to Calgary when he figured out we were on to him.

And ?

Let's pretend that I know a guy from Alberta who is a total 1D10T.

If I tell you that, does it change anything ?

It shouldn't.

I get that people don't TRUST institutional knowledge.  I don't either.  But PEW is used by people on both sides of the political spectrum and that means ... well, something.

Edited December 17, 2025 by Michael Hardner

[Michael Hardner]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yup. Seen similar. I interviewed an East Indian ans realized quickly he had lied on his resume.

My wife can't drive very well... nor can my sister... and my sister-in-law isn't great.

 

Ipso/facto... women drivers, sheesh !  Am I right, gentlemen ??? 

 

Seriously, an objective mind has to accept the fact that they are sometimes wrong and be ready to accept objective sources to tell it so.

12 hours ago, Goddess said:

It caused a lot of problems for our business and set us back over a year.

Well... as an IT manager I can say for sure that one bad employee slacking off shouldn't set you back a year.  Can't believe you folks didn't catch that sooner.  Oh well, live and learn right ? 😆

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ouch! Sounds like you found out the hard way.

Yes... new employees, especially certified offshore, need to have code reviews for ALL WORK through the probation period until you're satisfied that they are delivering.  And, more generally, no one should ever get an assignment that is longer than 2 weeks or 10 business days in length.

This is as per PMI standard, or at least was last time I checked the booklet... 10 years ago ?  Wow... I have to update my creds...

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Absolutely.

But ask yourself this - if I gave you personal information that contradicted ... let's say ... "institutional" facts.  

Would you believe me ?  

Honest question.

And ?

Let's pretend that I know a guy from Alberta who is a total 1D10T.

If I tell you that, does it change anything ?

It shouldn't.

I get that people don't TRUST institutional knowledge.  I don't either.  But PEW is used by people on both sides of the political spectrum and that means ... well, something.

The problem is obvious.

Muslims cannot be trusted to assimilate. 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The problem is obvious.

Muslims cannot be trusted to assimilate. 

You're skipping past my question.

I, for one, didn't know if Muslims were assimilating and maybe suspected they weren't.  Then I met a good source that explained it and I changed my views.

Do you think it's ok for me to stick to my self-created ideas on how things are?  If you cited some source that you know is true, say from your profession, and I said "no, I don't think so because of my experience"... would that be reasonable ?

It's a general question about how people form knowledge...

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

My wife can't drive very well... nor can my sister... and my sister-in-law isn't great.

 

Ipso/facto... women drivers, sheesh !  Am I right, gentlemen ??? 

 

Seriously, an objective mind has to accept the fact that they are sometimes wrong and be ready to accept objective sources to tell it so.

My wife can drive but is terrified of doing so. She used to wait in parking lots to ask a man to back her car out of a parking space.

Woman drivers have a bad reputation because of example...and im sure there's a bit of chauvanism involved.

Same goes for Muslims. I know a few who I could work with. But the vast majority are not trust worthy. And yes, im sure there's some discrimination involved...on both sides.

But one of my primary directives is to protect MY family and by extension...MY nation.

What are your primary directives?