FDA Admits Myocarditis Was A Side Effect

[User]

10 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Oh, by the way.  You and I have always disagreed on the actual number of covid deaths in Canada.

Please provide death certificates, autopsy reports, emergency room visit records, private medical records for EACH one.

 

Well, show me any particular claim I’ve made that you take issue with, I’ll back it up. I’m not up to jumping through your stupid and irrelevant hoops here because you got called out and can’t back up your silly assertions and now want to distract from that.  

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

No, no.

I'm agreeing with you.

It's obvious the FDA is lying and no children died of the covid jabs.  Obviously if it were true, they would release all the death certificates, autopsy reports, emergency room reports, private medical records for each one.

I mean they did that for each covid death claimed during the pandemic, so why wouldn't they do it now?  

Claiming children died from the covid jabs without publicly releasing all those records - it's obviously a conspiracy.

No, you are not agreeing with me, you are arguing from the absurd because your claim here failed. 

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, User said:

show me any particular claim I’ve made that you take issue with

All of them.  It's YOUR claim.

 

8 minutes ago, User said:

can’t back up your silly assertions

It's not my assertions.  It's the FDA's.

I'm agreeing with you.  They should publicly release ALL the death certificates, ALL the autopsy reports, ALL the private medical records for each and every death by covid or by covid jab.

So far, only a few individuals - mostly independent journalists, lawyers, individual data analysts have been successful in FOIPing some information.

 

I'm not mocking you - I truly do believe, like you - that ALL this information should be released publicly.  For ALL the deaths, not just the ones from the jabs.

Edited December 3, 2025 by Goddess

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, User said:

you are arguing from the absurd

You're demanding private death and autopsy certificates from ME for a claim made by the FDA, following an investigation by the FDA or else you won't believe their claim of child deaths.

Who's being absurd?

Edited December 3, 2025 by Goddess

[User]

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

All of them.  It's YOUR claim.

What claim did I make here? Show me.

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

12 minutes ago, User said:

 

It's not my assertions.  It's the FDA's.

No, it wasn’t. We are talking about a leaked memo, that gave no specifics. YOU brought up the claim about this specific person here, and your source wasn’t the FDA.

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I'm agreeing with you.  They should publicly release ALL the death certificates, ALL the autopsy reports, ALL the private medical records for each and every death by covid or by covid jab.

Who is this they?  We are talking about this father and his dead son. What specific “they” has these documents?

Either way, to the point here, until the father can produce anything to substantiate his claims, no reason to make national policy decisions off his baseless assertions. 
 

There is no “they” other than him who can produce names/times/methods for all these alleged bribes from the FDA or other information to support his claims. 
 

He didn’t get a copy of his son’s death certificate? Or autopsy? The father can’t produce these things?

 

 

[User]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You're demanding private death and autopsy certificates from ME for a claim made by the FDA, following an investigation by the FDA or else you won't believe their claim of child deaths.

Who's being absurd?

They are not private to the father… who is making these claims. 

 

[Goddess]

10 minutes ago, User said:

YOU brought up the claim about this specific person here, and your source wasn’t the FDA.

If you don't find the information credible, fine.  I'm just wondering why you're demanding the death certificate and autopsy report from ME.  Surely you know I don't have access to that information.  

You know who does?

The FDA.

I doubt you read the article, though.

5 minutes ago, User said:

They are not private to the father… who is making these claims. 

You don't think this information was provided to the FDA, either from the father directly (since he met with them, although I'm sure you will say he is lying about that, too, and that the picture of him with Makary is faked) and/or were uploaded to VAERS.

You don't think this information was provided to his attorneys?

You don't think it's at all credible that his son is one of the 10, since he met directly with the head of the FDA right before the memo came out?

And you call me a conspiracy theorist 🤣

You're the one claiming everything about this is fake - the FDA is lying, the father is lying, the pictures are fake, the meeting is fake, the kid is not actually dead, the memo is lying, and no children have ever died from the jab.

All because they didn't publicly release the kid's private medical records.

GTFO, you braindead doofus.

[User]

10 minutes ago, Goddess said:

If you don't find the information credible, fine.  I'm just wondering why you're demanding the death certificate and autopsy report from ME.  Surely you know I don't have access to that information.  

You know who does?

The FDA.

I doubt you read the article, though.

This didn’t start with me demanding anything from you, it has been my repeatedly pointing out the father has provided nothing to back up his claims AND if YOU want us to believe this, then yes you too need to provide something of substance. 
 

 

36 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You don't think this information was provided to the FDA, either from the father directly (since he met with them, although I'm sure you will say he is lying about that, too, and that the picture of him with Makary is faked) and/or were uploaded to VAERS.

All I can point out is that we have no evidence here to evaluate to believe anything being claimed about his son’s death being caused by the vaccine or anything about FDA bribes.

You still have a fundamental misunderstanding of how VAERS works, as pretty much anyone can submit anything there. Which is exactly why data in VAERS isn’t in itself proof of anything or any evidence proving anything.

39 minutes ago, Goddess said:

GTFO, you braindead doofus.

The only brain dead person her is you, as you insist we believe all this crap with no evidence. 

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, User said:

my repeatedly pointing out the father has provided nothing to back up his claims

How do you know this?  Just because he didn't provide them to YOU personally doesn't mean they weren't provided to the FDA, VAERS, his lawyers, any number of people.

 

1 hour ago, User said:

You still have a fundamental misunderstanding of how VAERS works, as pretty much anyone can submit anything there.

There are penalties for submitting false reports to VAERS, both fines and imprisonment.

Are you claiming that VAERS is mostly nothing but false reports?

1 hour ago, User said:

Which is exactly why data in VAERS isn’t in itself proof of anything or any evidence proving anything.

It's actually how the clotting issue with the Johnson & Johnson jab was identified and also the reason for the Astra Zeneca recall.  It also identified the myocarditis post-vaccination that parents were concerned about and the CDC finally had to acknowledge.

Misinformation about VAERS and other Adverse Event (AE) reporting tools | Misinformation Wiki
 

Quote

 

Healthcare providers are encouraged to submit any adverse events that occur after vaccination, whether or not they suspect any relationship. Specific to COVID vaccines - reporting is MANDATORY for serious AE.

Important! Fake reports are removed from VAERS as they are identified, so this is a relatively weak argument. The vast majority of reports to VAERS are probably legitimate

 

 

Why are you lying about this?

[User]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

How do you know this?  Just because he didn't provide them to YOU personally doesn't mean they weren't provided to the FDA, VAERS, his lawyers, any number of people.

You are right. He could have shared this with his friends wife’s second cousins dog.

What I know is it wasn’t in the article you shared nor anywhere else doing some Google searches.

So, to the point here, no evidence has been provided to back up his claims to the public anywhere I can find and if you want us to believe this and make policy decisions off it, then we need evidence.

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

There are penalties for submitting false reports to VAERS, both fines and imprisonment.

Are you claiming that VAERS is mostly nothing but false reports?

This is your dumb game. The issue isn’t about submitting something false or not, it’s that you can say your kid died 2 days after the COVID vaccine… but don’t have to show any evidence supporting that the Covid  vaccine caused it. 

It is still true your kid died… but nothing actually proving it was Covid vaccine.

In fact, it could very well have been anything else and they still report it, even if you don’t think the vaccine had anything at all to do with it, you still report it. 
 

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

It's actually how the clotting issue with the Johnson & Johnson jab was identified and also the reason for the Astra Zeneca recall. 

As already mentioned earlier, it’s a bellwether tool, that indicates possible issues that are then later confirmed by further factual and scientific rigor.

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Why are you lying about this?

What was my lie?
 

 

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, User said:

but nothing actually proving it was Covid vaccine.

Apparently, the FDA has the evidence.

[User]

28 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Apparently, the FDA has the evidence.

Says who? What evidence?

You have not provided any. Just another baseless assertion. 

 

[Hodad]

6 hours ago, Goddess said:

This claim, like many of the claims made about the shots early in the covid days, has been repeatedly debunked.

I covered the subsequent studies in the Trickle thread.  Like 3 years ago.

Penn State, like a lot of Universities, receives funds from Pfizer in the tens of millions of dollars.

Universities seldom bite the hand that feeds them.

No, it wasn't "debunked," regardless of what some internet rando's post the algorithm served you. I also gave you a peer-reviewed study from 2025. Your unsubstantiated conspiracy theory crap is just boring. 

The entire global medical and scientific community is not engaged in a conspiracy to undermine bloggers and Facebook posters. 

Edited December 3, 2025 by Hodad

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Goddess said:

Do you think maybe the FDA, who made the determination, have all this information?  Maybe Ramirez' lawyer?  Death certificates and autopsy reports are uploaded to VAERS?  Do you think they might be there?

You don't trust the FDA now?  What changed?  

No.

These things were not included in the article or in the FDA memo, so you're right.  Clearly the kid is still alive and the whole thing is fake.

RFK changed EVERYTHING at HHS. 💡

You're welcome.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Goddess said:

This claim, like many of the claims made about the shots early in the covid days, has been repeatedly debunked.

I covered the subsequent studies in the Trickle thread.  Like 3 years ago.

Penn State, like a lot of Universities, receives funds from Pfizer in the tens of millions of dollars.

Universities seldom bite the hand that feeds them.

You made a blatant ERROR in "the Trickle thread" which has been pointed out to you. 

Maybe you made (many) more than that one in which you misread a graph YOU POSTED. 

Edited December 4, 2025 by robosmith

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

No, it wasn't "debunked," regardless of what some internet rando's post the algorithm served you. I also gave you a peer-reviewed study from 2025. Your unsubstantiated conspiracy theory crap is just boring. 

The entire global medical and scientific community is not engaged in a conspiracy to undermine bloggers and Facebook posters. 

When you say "the entire global medical and scientific community" you make them sound like such upstanding citizens, but you are not actually referring to doctors at all, because doctors in Canada are not allowed to speak freely about such things. FYI you are only referring to "the people who make gobs of money from Big Pharma".

It's true that those people are "not engaged in a conspiracy to undermine bloggers and Facebook posters". The ones who speak out are merely protecting their cash cow, and all they actually do is ignore the truth while trumpeting pseudovax propaganda. 

The actual attacks against the truth are someone else's job. 

That is to say that undermining bloggers and FB posters is actually the job of TNI, the "Trusted News Initiative", and they actually did exert control over social media to undermine bloggers and FB users. It's actually 100% a proven fact that they did that. Not only did they ban people for talking about the BSL4 lab, TNI members even banned the NYPost from social media for telling the truth about Hunter's laptop. 

TNI members brag about the fact that they got together "to fight against disinformation", but what they did was actually "undermine the truth". It's actually a fact that there's a BSL4 lab in Wuhan. No one should have been banned from social media for talking about it. 

I can guarantee that if we look back in this forum, we will see that you were part of the crowd that was treating the lab-leak theory as "nothing but a ridiculous far-right conspiracy theory" and laughing at conservatives and calling them names. FYI, THAT WAS YOU BEING A GOOD LITTLE CULTIST AND JOINING ACTUAL CONSPIRATORS IN TNI (CBC, AP, Reuters, FB, Twitter, Google, Youtube, NYTimes, WashPo, etc) IN AN ATTEMPT TO UNDERMINE - NOT JUST "BLOGGERS AND FB POSTERS" - BUT TO UNDERMINE THE TRUTH AND TO MOCK ANYONE WHO DIDN'T PRETEND TO SEE THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES. Call yourself a useful idjit or a cultist if you wish, but when you were pretending to somehow know that the lab leak theory was a ridiculous alt-right conspiracy theory, you were undermining the truth.  

Just think back to all the ridiculous BS that FB and Twitter allowed over the years, and for some reason the only things they cancelled was actual facts about covid and Hunter's laptop.

 

Tell me, after all the time that you spent running your fool mouth by parroting Fauci's lie and calling the lab-leak theory an alt-right conspiracy theory, how does it feel to know that he was hiding the fact that he "funded research to increase the bat coronavirus's transmissibility between human cells in the Wuhan BSL4 lab"? You're one of Fauci's fools, Hodad. You took the side of a liar and a conman and pimped his propaganda while deriding the people who were smart enough to see through him.

For the rest of your life you have to pretend that the lab-leak theory was ridiculous just so that you don't have to admit to being a conman's stooge. 

 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/social-media-companies-fact-checkers-shrug-off-wuhan-lab-leak-embarrassment-1599207

Just in case you forgot that social media was actually undermining the trith, and calling it a kooky far-right conspiracy theory. 😘

Edited December 4, 2025 by WestCanMan

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

When you say "the entire global medical and scientific community" you make them sound like such upstanding citizens, but you are not actually referring to doctors at all, because doctors in Canada are not allowed to speak freely about such things. FYI you are only referring to "the people who make gobs of money from Big Pharma".

It's true that those people are "not engaged in a conspiracy to undermine bloggers and Facebook posters". The ones who speak out are merely protecting their cash cow, and all they actually do is ignore the truth while trumpeting pseudovax propaganda. 

The actual attacks against the truth are someone else's job. 

That is to say that undermining bloggers and FB posters is actually the job of TNI, the "Trusted News Initiative", and they actually did exert control over social media to undermine bloggers and FB users. It's actually 100% a proven fact that they did that. Not only did they ban people for talking about the BSL4 lab, TNI members even banned the NYPost from social media for telling the truth about Hunter's laptop. 

TNI members brag about the fact that they got together "to fight against disinformation", but what they did was actually "undermine the truth". It's actually a fact that there's a BSL4 lab in Wuhan. No one should have been banned from social media for talking about it. 

I can guarantee that if we look back in this forum, we will see that you were part of the crowd that was treating the lab-leak theory as "nothing but a ridiculous far-right conspiracy theory" and laughing at conservatives and calling them names. FYI, THAT WAS YOU BEING A GOOD LITTLE CULTIST AND JOINING ACTUAL CONSPIRATORS IN TNI (CBC, AP, Reuters, FB, Twitter, Google, Youtube, NYTimes, WashPo, etc) IN AN ATTEMPT TO UNDERMINE - NOT JUST "BLOGGERS AND FB POSTERS" - BUT TO UNDERMINE THE TRUTH AND TO MOCK ANYONE WHO DIDN'T PRETEND TO SEE THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES. Call yourself a useful idjit or a cultist if you wish, but when you were pretending to somehow know that the lab leak theory was a ridiculous alt-right conspiracy theory, you were undermining the truth.  

Just think back to all the ridiculous BS that FB and Twitter allowed over the years, and for some reason the only things they cancelled was actual facts about covid and Hunter's laptop.

 

Tell me, after all the time that you spent running your fool mouth by parroting Fauci's lie and calling the lab-leak theory an alt-right conspiracy theory, how does it feel to know that he was hiding the fact that he "funded research to increase the bat coronavirus's transmissibility between human cells in the Wuhan BSL4 lab"? You're one of Fauci's fools, Hodad. You took the side of a liar and a conman and pimped his propaganda while deriding the people who were smart enough to see through him.

For the rest of your life you have to pretend that the lab-leak theory was ridiculous just so that you don't have to admit to being a conman's stooge. 

 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/social-media-companies-fact-checkers-shrug-off-wuhan-lab-leak-embarrassment-1599207

Just in case you forgot that social media was actually undermining the trith, and calling it a kooky far-right conspiracy theory. 😘

^Sounds like a founding member of QANON. LMAO

'ONLY the interwebz TROLLS know the truth' 

[Hodad]

22 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

When you say "the entire global medical and scientific community" you make them sound like such upstanding citizens, but you are not actually referring to doctors at all, because doctors in Canada are not allowed to speak freely about such things. FYI you are only referring to "the people who make gobs of money from Big Pharma".

It's true that those people are "not engaged in a conspiracy to undermine bloggers and Facebook posters". The ones who speak out are merely protecting their cash cow, and all they actually do is ignore the truth while trumpeting pseudovax propaganda. 

The actual attacks against the truth are someone else's job. 

That is to say that undermining bloggers and FB posters is actually the job of TNI, the "Trusted News Initiative", and they actually did exert control over social media to undermine bloggers and FB users. It's actually 100% a proven fact that they did that. Not only did they ban people for talking about the BSL4 lab, TNI members even banned the NYPost from social media for telling the truth about Hunter's laptop. 

TNI members brag about the fact that they got together "to fight against disinformation", but what they did was actually "undermine the truth". It's actually a fact that there's a BSL4 lab in Wuhan. No one should have been banned from social media for talking about it. 

I can guarantee that if we look back in this forum, we will see that you were part of the crowd that was treating the lab-leak theory as "nothing but a ridiculous far-right conspiracy theory" and laughing at conservatives and calling them names. FYI, THAT WAS YOU BEING A GOOD LITTLE CULTIST AND JOINING ACTUAL CONSPIRATORS IN TNI (CBC, AP, Reuters, FB, Twitter, Google, Youtube, NYTimes, WashPo, etc) IN AN ATTEMPT TO UNDERMINE - NOT JUST "BLOGGERS AND FB POSTERS" - BUT TO UNDERMINE THE TRUTH AND TO MOCK ANYONE WHO DIDN'T PRETEND TO SEE THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES. Call yourself a useful idjit or a cultist if you wish, but when you were pretending to somehow know that the lab leak theory was a ridiculous alt-right conspiracy theory, you were undermining the truth.  

Just think back to all the ridiculous BS that FB and Twitter allowed over the years, and for some reason the only things they cancelled was actual facts about covid and Hunter's laptop.

 

Tell me, after all the time that you spent running your fool mouth by parroting Fauci's lie and calling the lab-leak theory an alt-right conspiracy theory, how does it feel to know that he was hiding the fact that he "funded research to increase the bat coronavirus's transmissibility between human cells in the Wuhan BSL4 lab"? You're one of Fauci's fools, Hodad. You took the side of a liar and a conman and pimped his propaganda while deriding the people who were smart enough to see through him.

For the rest of your life you have to pretend that the lab-leak theory was ridiculous just so that you don't have to admit to being a conman's stooge. 

 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/social-media-companies-fact-checkers-shrug-off-wuhan-lab-leak-embarrassment-1599207

Just in case you forgot that social media was actually undermining the trith, and calling it a kooky far-right conspiracy theory. 😘

My god, you're boring. Same conspiracy shit, year after year, ad nauseum. You'll be 90 years old, writing the same lines on the walls of your padded room with your own feces.

You can just assume that I'm never talking about Canada unless I specifically say Canada. We're in a US politics forum and I'm clearly in the US. I love Canada and Canadians (well, most of them) but what happens there isn't particularly consequential outside of Canada.

However, you don't have to look far to see that you are, as usual, lying. Canadian doctors are free to talk about any evidence-based medical topic, including potential vaccine harm. They are not, however, allowed to advise patients based on conspiracy shit they read on the internet. It's the difference between practice and malpractice. 

And the idea that Fauci himself "funded" this specific research objective is like the crackpots who walk up to cops and say, "Hey, I pay your salary!" 🙄

[WestCanMan]

On 12/4/2025 at 3:50 PM, Hodad said:

My god, you're boring. Same conspiracy shit, year after year, ad nauseum. You'll be 90 years old, writing the same lines on the walls of your padded room with your own feces.

You can just assume that I'm never talking about Canada unless I specifically say Canada. We're in a US politics forum and I'm clearly in the US. I love Canada and Canadians (well, most of them) but what happens there isn't particularly consequential outside of Canada.

However, you don't have to look far to see that you are, as usual, lying. Canadian doctors are free to talk about any evidence-based medical topic, including potential vaccine harm. They are not, however, allowed to advise patients based on conspiracy shit they read on the internet. It's the difference between practice and malpractice. 

And the idea that Fauci himself "funded" this specific research objective is like the crackpots who walk up to cops and say, "Hey, I pay your salary!" 🙄

You filthy lying piece of shit. 

1) Nothing that I said here is "conspiratorial", at all. It is all 100% true, and your only defence of any of it is to deny everything out of hand because you can't mount any semblance of a reasonable challenge to a single fact that I cited. 

2) This topic is not limited to the US. I don't give a F about the US, but our TVs put Fauci's disinformation and lies on our TV screens. And when I say "Fauci's lies", again, I'm not making an accusation, I'm referring to established facts that you have been made aware of dozens of times.

3) A Canadian doctor was rung up on charges of spreading medical disinformation relating to the symptoms that dozens of his patients experienced which resulted from their covid pseudovaccinations. He was accused of disinformation for talking about the symptoms of dozens of his patients, period. Not for "daring to consider that there was any other possible way to treat covid than the pseidovax" you ignorant m0r0n.

The only defence that the Commie Physicians and Surgeons could come up with for their accusation was "the defendant's evidence should all be refused entry into the court for no other reason than "Health Canada said that the jabs are safe". As if that's a standard that can never be challenged until the end of time. 

 

And at the end of the day, our gov't didn't choose sensibility, they just went silverback against the possibility of doctors speaking out in the future, by putting $200,000 fines and jailtime into the equation. And the thing about fines is, they just get levied, then the onus is on you to prove that you shouldn't have to pay them, or you might be forced to pay up front and then fight to get your money back. 

Edited December 10, 2025 by WestCanMan

[Venandi]

On 12/4/2025 at 7:50 PM, Hodad said:

Canadian doctors are free to talk about any evidence-based medical topic, including potential vaccine harm.

 I can only guess that your reason for not paying attention to some of the individual cases in Canada was because:
 

On 12/4/2025 at 7:50 PM, Hodad said:

...what happens there isn't particularly consequential outside of Canada.

 

 

Edited December 10, 2025 by Venandi

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Venandi said:

 I can only guess that your reason for not paying attention to some of the individual cases in Canada was because:

Honestly, you know it's time for some serious reflection in this part of the world when Drs can't even talk about extremely important health issues that they've witnessed first-hand dozens of times, without facing criminal charges, but a 17-yr-old high school dropout from Sweden can be considered a race relations expert in America just because she identifies as one of the world's preeminent climatologists.  

These leftists here who fling ridiculous CBC propaganda around like it's a monkey poop-fight at the DNC are actually taken more seriously by our government than trained, experienced doctors are.  

FACT: CBC/CNN and our governments would let Greta or eyeball/robo go on national TV to peddle long-debunked propaganda about the safety and efficacy of the jabs as if they're some sort of experts, but if an actual doctor in BC talks on his own FB page about a kid that he saw killed by the covid jab, he WILL go to jail.

Aside from that, everything's fine here. 

[Goddess]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Honestly, you know it's time for some serious reflection in this part of the world when Drs can't even talk about extremely important health issues that they've witnessed first-hand dozens of times,

Part of the problem is a firm refusal to look at what might be the problem.

Cancer rates in Australians under 50 are rising at a pace that's alarming doctors and scientists - ABC News

Australians aged in their 30s and 40s are experiencing unprecedented and in some cases world-leading rates of at least 10 different types of cancer — and scientists are desperate to understand why.

 

I seem to remember Australia boasting the highest c0v1d vax rate in the world - 94%.

It's a mystery.

All those studies that show the jabs interfere with T cells, the IgG4 switch, the spike found in multiple organs of the body, the P53 thing......

The experts can't explain it.

Weird.

 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Honestly, you know it's time for some serious reflection in this part of the world when Drs can't even talk about extremely important health issues that they've witnessed first-hand dozens of times, without facing criminal charges, but a 17-yr-old high school dropout from Sweden can be considered a race relations expert in America just because she identifies as one of the world's preeminent climatologists.  

These leftists here who fling ridiculous CBC propaganda around like it's a monkey poop-fight at the DNC are actually taken more seriously by our government than trained, experienced doctors are.  

FACT: CBC/CNN and our governments would let Greta or eyeball/robo go on national TV to peddle long-debunked propaganda about the safety and efficacy of the jabs as if they're some sort of experts, but if an actual doctor in BC talks on his own FB page about a kid that he saw killed by the covid jab, he WILL go to jail.

Aside from that, everything's fine here. 

You're LYING AGAIN and that's ONE REASON why you have NO CREDIBILITY.

Another reason is you FAIL to UNDERSTAND and TRY TO DEFEND Trump's 30,000+ LIES and MISLEADING STATEMENTS.

AKA you've been CONNED,

I post the PUBLISHED RESULTS of EXPERT RESEARCH.

Quote

While many COVID-19 trials involved tens of thousands of people, a prominent example is the Johnson & Johnson (Janssen)'s single-dose vaccine trial (ENSEMBLE), which enrolled around 45,000 participants globally, but overall, major vaccine trials (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca) often exceeded 30,000-40,000, with vast networks of studies involving far more people, making 60,000 participants a common scale for large Phase 3 trials.

Key Examples of Large Trials:

• Pfizer-BioNTech: Their initial Phase 3 trial had over 40,000 participants, later expanding to include younger age groups.
• Moderna: Their pivotal Phase 3 study also enrolled around 30,000 individuals, later growing to over 37,000.
• AstraZeneca/Oxford: Involved tens of thousands across multiple countries in their Phase 3 trials.
• Janssen (J&J): Their ENSEMBLE trial had about 45,000 participants.

Why So Many?

• Statistical Power: To detect efficacy (how well the vaccine works) and rare side effects, large numbers are needed.
• Diversity: Trials aimed for broad representation across ages, ethnicities, and underlying health conditions.

So, 60,000 participants is a realistic figure for major global COVID-19 vaccine trials, often seen when combining enrollment numbers or across large multinational studies

 

 

[gatomontes99]

32 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're LYING AGAIN and that's ONE REASON why you have NO CREDIBILITY.

Another reason is you FAIL to UNDERSTAND and TRY TO DEFEND Trump's 30,000+ LIES and MISLEADING STATEMENTS.

AKA you've been CONNED,

I post the PUBLISHED RESULTS of EXPERT RESEARCH.

 

 

Literally happened: 

Ontario doc loses licence for anti-vaxx disinformation

[Goddess]

20 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Literally happened: 

Ontario doc loses licence for anti-vaxx disinformation

And this one had to fight like hell to keep his:

Victory for Dr. Charles Hoffe as Case Withdrawn After Lengthy Battle: – HART

Dr. Hoffe was the first in Canada to report the clotting issue in his patients and they tried very hard to shut him up.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

All those studies that show the jabs interfere with T cells, the IgG4 switch, the spike found in multiple organs of the body, the P53 thing......

The experts can't explain it.

Weird.

They could explain it if they wanted to, but they can't explain it for the same reason that young adults can't quit their jobs to avoid taking pseudovaxes: financial ruin sucks.