FDA Admits Myocarditis Was A Side Effect

[gatomontes99]

FDA claims Covid shots killed 10 children and vows new vaccine rules

Turns out at least 10 children, previously unreported, died for the myocarditis caused by the COVID vaccine. The FDA just released the documentation. 

[User]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

FDA claims Covid shots killed 10 children and vows new vaccine rules

Turns out at least 10 children, previously unreported, died for the myocarditis caused by the COVID vaccine. The FDA just released the documentation. 

Note: The FDA did not release any documentation; this was a memo with no specifics given, alleging deaths based on previous VAERS data.

"The memo, sent Friday, did not include the children’s ages or medical histories, timelines or documentation for the deaths he references and does not identify the manufacturer of the vaccine. The FDA’s findings have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal."

[Hodad]

Holy shit, "admit" is a funny word to use here, in that it implies a party acknowledging a previously unacknowledged fact. Yet no facts have been established--simply claims with no data to support such claims. The kooks currently running the FDA Trump appointed an anti-vax loon in Kennedy. Kennedy in turn looks for more anti-vax loons more interested in promoting their dogma than doing the science. 

VAERS reports are not documented in any way. This is the equivalent of issuing a press release about any other undocumented claim on the internet--entirely worthless and pointless.

And you swallowed it hook line and sinker, because, well, of course you would.

Meanwhile, the facts are well established that the vaccine (and other measures) saved millions. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Holy shit, "admit" is a funny word to use here, in that it implies a party acknowledging a previously unacknowledged fact. Yet no facts have been established--simply claims with no data to support such claims. The kooks currently running the FDA Trump appointed an anti-vax loon in Kennedy. Kennedy in turn looks for more anti-vax loons more interested in promoting their dogma than doing the science. 

VAERS reports are not documented in any way. This is the equivalent of issuing a press release about any other undocumented claim on the internet--entirely worthless and pointless.

And you swallowed it hook line and sinker, because, well, of course you would.

Meanwhile, the facts are well established that the vaccine (and other measures) saved millions. 

You know I've been aware of the ~10 alleged deaths from myocarditis for YEARS.

Since the number hasn't grown, this is clearly OLD NEWS.

[gatomontes99]

FDA

"Based on analyses of commercial health insurance claims data from inpatient and outpatient settings, the estimated unadjusted incidence of myocarditis and/or pericarditis during the period 1 through 7 days following administration of the 2023-2024 Formula of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines was approximately 8 cases per million doses in individuals 6 months through 64 years of age and approximately 27 cases per million doses in males 12 through 24 years of age.

Follow-up information on cardiovascular outcomes in hospitalized patients who had been diagnosed with COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis is available from a longitudinal retrospective observational study. Most of these patients had received a two-dose primary series of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine prior to their diagnosis. In this study, at a median follow-up of approximately 5 months post-vaccination, persistence of abnormal cardiac magnetic resonance imaging (CMR) findings that are a marker for myocardial injury was common. The clinical and prognostic significance of these CMR findings is not known."

Prior to this release, the FDA refused to acknowledge any risk. 

[John Stone]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

FDA

"Based on analyses of commercial health insurance claims data from inpatient and outpatient settings, the estimated unadjusted incidence of myocarditis and/or pericarditis during the period 1 through 7 days following administration of the 2023-2024 Formula of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines was approximately 8 cases per million doses in individuals 6 months through 64 years of age and approximately 27 cases per million doses in males 12 through 24 years of age.

Follow-up information on cardiovascular outcomes in hospitalized patients who had been diagnosed with COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis is available from a longitudinal retrospective observational study. Most of these patients had received a two-dose primary series of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine prior to their diagnosis. In this study, at a median follow-up of approximately 5 months post-vaccination, persistence of abnormal cardiac magnetic resonance imaging (CMR) findings that are a marker for myocardial injury was common. The clinical and prognostic significance of these CMR findings is not known."

Prior to this release, the FDA refused to acknowledge any risk. 

National  vaccine hesitancy is  up - not sure if that trend  is a good thing. 

[User]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Prior to this release, the FDA refused to acknowledge any risk. 

Not accurate. Both the CDC and FDA were acknowledging this risk early on. This is from 2021:

FDA to Add Myocarditis Warning to mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines

Michele Cohen Marill

June 23, 2021

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/953647?form=fpf

 

[WestCanMan]

20 hours ago, User said:

Note: The FDA did not release any documentation; this was a memo with no specifics given, alleging deaths based on previous VAERS data.

"The memo, sent Friday, did not include the children’s ages or medical histories, timelines or documentation for the deaths he references and does not identify the manufacturer of the vaccine. The FDA’s findings have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal."

"Holy confirmation bias, Batman!" 😂

You don't question a single "covid death" out of about 70,000, or even Fauci's word after he was caught lying, but for some reason you just refuse to believe that anyone died of the jab.

• The 3,000-word memo, obtained by NBC News, was written by Dr. Vinay Prasad, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.
• In it, Prasad claims that agency staff determined that “no fewer than 10” of 96 child deaths reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, between 2021 and 2024 were “related” to Covid vaccination. He said the true numbers could be higher, 

Honestly, you should be more concerned about the fact that it took this long to finally admit to it than you are that there's a possibility that after taking all this time they somehow got it wrong.

they definitely didn't jump to conclusions, like they did about how safe and effective the jabs were gonna be 😂

Enjoy your tantrum now, nutjob. 

[WestCanMan]

If RFK Jr wasn't breathing down their necks they probably never would have released this report, and the vax-induced deaths of children would forever stay on the backburner, never venturing past "conspiracy theory" status. 

Of course there were more than 10.

10 is a BS number thrown out there to admit that it happened, because it was impossible to deny forever, but it makes it sound extremely rare to the point where vax-apologists can claim that it was insignificant, and vax-pimps can plead ignorance.  

The fact remains that in Canada, the jabs did absolutely NOTHING to justify the vax-fascism. 

[User]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

You don't question a single "covid death" out of about 70,000, or even Fauci's word after he was caught lying, but for some reason you just refuse to believe that anyone died of the jab.

So… you literally didn’t respond to anything I said, and instead fabricated stuff I didn’t.

Come back when/if you actually want to respond to something I said. 

[Goddess]

22 hours ago, Hodad said:

VAERS reports are not documented in any way. This is the equivalent of issuing a press release about any other undocumented claim on the internet--entirely worthless and pointless.

If VAERS is worthless and pointless, what does it say about the Big Pharma machine that they forced an experimental vaccine on healthy people, including pregnant women and children which has always been considered medically unethical, with no way to track the results or monitor anything?

[WestCanMan]

@Hodad Who tracks vax-injuries then?

Why was VAERS data cited as gospel truth by left4rds while they were just saying "duuuhhhh, we no know", but now they're junk?

FYI it wasn't a random plumber at VAERS who made that comment, you braindead stoner, it was the director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. Are you sure that he just knows nothing? He has some ulterior motive for saying that the jabs killed children?

Normal people had that suspicion from the first month. Actual newspapers reported on children, whose names and faces were shown, who died for no other apparent reason shortly after vaxing. 

When was the last time a 13-yr-old in Canada just keeled over in their sleep for no reason? Does SIDS affect teens where you live? 

Edited December 2, 2025 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

On 11/30/2025 at 6:09 PM, User said:

The FDA’s findings have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal."

Who even gives a shit?

What difference would it make if that was published in a peer-reviewed journal or not?

FYI publishing the story in a medical journal doesn't suddenly add a level of verification that wasn't previously there... This came directly from the FDA, not Johnny's Farmosuiticles.

And FYI The NEJoM and The Lancet don't have to post articles that they don't want to. What makes you think that they want to admit to anything like that now, after parroting outrageous bullshit about "vaccine" safety and efficacy for 5 years? 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

If VAERS is worthless and pointless, what does it say about the Big Pharma machine that they forced an experimental vaccine on healthy people, including pregnant women and children which has always been considered medically unethical, with no way to track the results or monitor anything?

Big Pharma never forced anyone to take their vaccines.

51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Who even gives a shit?

What difference would it make if that was published in a peer-reviewed journal or not?

FYI publishing the story in a medical journal doesn't suddenly add a level of verification that wasn't previously there... This came directly from the FDA, not Johnny's Farmosuiticles.

And FYI The NEJoM and The Lancet don't have to post articles that they don't want to. What makes you think that they want to admit to anything like that now, after parroting outrageous bullshit about "vaccine" safety and efficacy for 5 years? 

Thanks for demonstrating you KNOW NOTHING about the system of peer reviewed journals as a method of verifying proper scientific conclusions.

[gatomontes99]

Just now, robosmith said:

Big Pharma never forced anyone to take their vaccines.

Bullshit!

PBS: Vaccine Passports in California? Answers to Your Questions

In 2021-2022, a two-year period, Pfizer gave more than $8.5 million to elected members of all of State Legislatures throughout the country.

Pfizer was bank rolling politicians, mostly democrats, and lo and behold they pushed vaccines on people. From military mandates, to school and work mandates to these stupid vaccine passports. Democrats did big pharma's bidding and demanded everyone get an experimental shot, even though coronavirus is not deadly over time. 

[User]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Who even gives a shit?

Well, I mean, clearly you don't. 

The point is that this FDA release is hardly grounded in any real methodology. To my point:

Note: The FDA did not release any documentation; this was a memo with no specifics given, alleging deaths based on previous VAERS data.

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

What difference would it make if that was published in a peer-reviewed journal or not?

Feel free to respond to my commentary above instead of the one sentence I quoted from the article. 

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI publishing the story in a medical journal doesn't suddenly add a level of verification that wasn't previously there... This came directly from the FDA, not Johnny's Farmosuiticles.

Yes, you have singled out one sentence and are ignoring the rest...

 

[User]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

If VAERS is worthless and pointless, what does it say about the Big Pharma machine that they forced an experimental vaccine on healthy people, including pregnant women and children which has always been considered medically unethical, with no way to track the results or monitor anything?

No one said VAERS was worthless. You are arguing against a strawman. 

VAERS is a bellwether for tracking unknown or unexpected issues or concerns with Vaccine safety. It helps if you and other anti-vaxxers would engage honestly about these things instead of trying to mischaracterize deliberately. 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

If VAERS is worthless and pointless, what does it say about the Big Pharma machine that they forced an experimental vaccine on healthy people, including pregnant women and children which has always been considered medically unethical, with no way to track the results or monitor anything?

VAERS itself isn't worthless or pointless, just the individual claims--and doubly so with an issue as politicized and plagued by misinformation as the COVID vaccines. Literally anyone can make a VAERS report. No science or evidence needed.  It's susceptible to abuse the same way jackasses review bomb a movie because the star said something with which they disagree. 

The point of VAERS is to provide a large enough sample size for reporting side effects to give researchers a way to prioritize investigations. That's it. There is value in surfacing trends--and it may be the only way to spot the existence of extremely rare events. 

And, FYI, vaccines are specifically for healthy people. That's simply how they function. 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

@Hodad Who tracks vax-injuries then?

Why was VAERS data cited as gospel truth by left4rds while they were just saying "duuuhhhh, we no know", but now they're junk?

I have no idea what you're on about, but you've never been much concerned about truth or facts.

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FYI it wasn't a random plumber at VAERS who made that comment, you braindead stoner, it was the director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. Are you sure that he just knows nothing? He has some ulterior motive for saying that the jabs killed children?

Indeed, just like Trump sabotaged the EPA with people who have no interest in environmental protection, and a secretary of Education specifically to dismantle the department of education, he put an anti-vax lunatic in charge of the FDA, who in turn staffed with like minded loons. 

Any responsible person in that role would have at least made a science based claim. Instead we get this weird press release designed to sow more FUD about vaccines. We're watching children die from classic diseases that were once eradicated because kooks now have an even bigger platform to spread FUD. It's a deadly dereliction of duty. 

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Normal people had that suspicion from the first month. Actual newspapers reported on children, whose names and faces were shown, who died for no other apparent reason shortly after vaxing. 

When was the last time a 13-yr-old in Canada just keeled over in their sleep for no reason? Does SIDS affect teens where you live? 

Very hard to know what random shit you're talking about now, but with your track record for critical thinking, it's likely random internet conspiracy shit like this debunked nonsense: "A 13-year-old girl "is now in critical care in the hospital here in Halifax because her heart stopped right after she had a vaccine."

Spoiler alert: didn't happen. Fake story. 

But kids do die at that age, some of them from COVID even. Some of them from other things. And some number of people undoubtedly suffered medical incidents following a vaccination. Post hoc ergo propter hoc. 

There is some risk to any medical intervention, and I have no doubt that there were extremely rare adverse reactions to these vaccines as there are to others. But the fact also remains that the vaccines are generally safe and effective, and indeed dramatically reduced individual risk and mortality. And that they saved millions of lives. Every medical intervention has a risk/benefit analysis, and in this case the benefit was massively and conclusively larger than any risk, to individuals as well as the general public. 

You will continue to deny this because of the aforementioned gap in critical thinking and will use the same busted arguments again, no doubt. But your misunderstandings won't change the facts. 

[Goddess]

So, Ernesto Ramirez Jr. is likely one of the 10.

He was 16 and died 5 days post-injection.  

I've followed his story from the beginning.  You can read what his father has been through and his fight to get justice for his son, Here:

First child identified in the FDA’s vaccine-death investigation

You will also be able to critically infer that there are a lot more than just 10 children.  Like, a LOT more.  And how it's been covered up.

[Goddess]

Dr. Jessica Rose, who I have followed from the beginning and has been compiling massive amounts of data from VAERS, found 156 reports of child death (0-17 years) in VAERS, where time to onset was recorded.

• 20 children died ON THE SAME DAY as they were injected
• 20 died the day after
• 76 died within the first week of being injected

In pre-Covid times, this would have been pulled from the market in the first week.

[Goddess]

"WE ARE NEVER GOING TO LEARN ABOUT HOW SAFE THE VACCINE IS (FOR CHILDREN) UNLESS WE START GIVING IT...THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES."

 

~~ FDA panel member and NEJM Editor-in-Chief, Eric Rubin, moments before he voted to approve the mRNA shots for children, VRBP meeting in October 2021 ~~

 

2 FDA executives quit in disgust over this approval.

[Goddess]

C'mon on, all you vax fascists.

Defend this like you've been defending it for the last 4 years.

The floodgates are gonna open.  New Zealand is opening up their database, following this.

This was world-wide.  How many children did you kill?

[robosmith]

35 minutes ago, Goddess said:

So, Ernesto Ramirez Jr. is likely one of the 10.

He was 16 and died 5 days post-injection.  

I've followed his story from the beginning.  You can read what his father has been through and his fight to get justice for his son, Here:

First child identified in the FDA’s vaccine-death investigation

You will also be able to critically infer that there are a lot more than just 10 children.  Like, a LOT more.  And how it's been covered up.

No one is stopping anyone from posting their story in the VAERS database your conspiracy theory notwithstanding.

Of course uncorroborated stories in VAERS mean next to nothing.

 

[robosmith]

28 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Dr. Jessica Rose, who I have followed from the beginning and has been compiling massive amounts of data from VAERS, found 156 reports of child death (0-17 years) in VAERS, where time to onset was recorded.

• 20 children died ON THE SAME DAY as they were injected
• 20 died the day after
• 76 died within the first week of being injected

In pre-Covid times, this would have been pulled from the market in the first week.

156 out of a sample space of HOW MANY?

Seems like a VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.

And what is normally expected number sans VACCINE?

What you're ignoring is the tens of thousands that were studied in the TRIALS.