FDA Admits Myocarditis Was A Side Effect

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, Goddess said:

"WE ARE NEVER GOING TO LEARN ABOUT HOW SAFE THE VACCINE IS (FOR CHILDREN) UNLESS WE START GIVING IT...THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES."

 

~~ FDA panel member and NEJM Editor-in-Chief, Eric Rubin, moments before he voted to approve the mRNA shots for children, VRBP meeting in October 2021 ~~

 

2 FDA executives quit in disgust over this approval.

Tens of thousands have demonstrated the vaccines safe and effective in the TRIALS.

That's just the way it has to go to get FDA approval.

26 minutes ago, Goddess said:

C'mon on, all you vax fascists.

Defend this like you've been defending it for the last 4 years.

The floodgates are gonna open.  New Zealand is opening up their database, following this.

This was world-wide.  How many children did you kill?

Not ^the question. 

The legitimate question is, how many fewer died because of the vaccines?

[Goddess]

13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one is stopping anyone from posting their story in the VAERS database

Ah yes.  The old "VAERS is full of lies" trope.  Niiiiiiice.

 

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Seems like a VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE.

Unless it's YOUR kid.  And we don't know the percentage yet.

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And what is normally expected number sans VACCINE?

Statistically, children faced 0% risk of dying from covid.

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What you're ignoring is the tens of thousands that were studied in the TRIALS.

Tens of thousands in the trials?  WTF?  You always speak outta your a$$ and don't know anything.  You're lucky I reply to you at all.

There were 2,268 in the children's trial for Pfizer.  And likely a similar number in the Moderna trial.  One child died in the Moderna trial.  At least one child, Maddie deGaray, was permanently disabled in the Pfizer trial.  So we already know the risk was at least 1 in 2200 for death or permanent disability.  About half of the children were pulled from the trials after the first dose, so they were not even included in the results.  So now it's about 1 in 1100.  It's unusual for that many to drop out of a trial. Why did their parents pull them out?

Is 1 in 1100 risk for death or permanent disability an acceptable risk for YOUR children?  It wouldn't be for mine.  But then, I wouldn't inject my babies with, not only an experimental genetic therapy, but also coupled with an experimental delivery system - the LNPs.

Thanks for playing, doorknob.

[Goddess]

So, millions of children injected with an experimental GENETIC THERAPY.  These are not "vaccines".  They are GENETIC THERAPY, fraudulently marketed as "vaccines."

We really didn't know what would happen.  (Well, we did, if you paid attention to the animal testing.)

You'd think that would mean all the more proceeding with caution.  But no......there's $billions$$ to be made here!!  We can't let long-established medical ethics stand in the way of money!

Here's what we have found out since the force-jabbing of children, who stood zero risk from covid:

1. The spike from the injections has NO OFF SWITCH.  Your body keeps producing toxic spike protein in perpetuity.  Latest studies show it's still being produced in bodies 3 years later.  Will you still be producing toxic spike 7 years from now?  10 years from now?  15 years from now?  We just don't know.  How exciting, right guys?!?

2. The spike settles in various organs, that's why the adverse events are so varied.  Autopsies have shown it settles mainly in the HEART.  It's why so many 9 year olds are keeling over from heart attacks in the last few years.  It also settles in the adrenal glands - they die in their sleep, like 17 year old Sean Hartman from Ontario, whose mother found him dead on his bedroom floor in the morning.

So maybe your kid dies when they're 9.  Or maybe when they're 29, a week before their wedding.  Or maybe when they're 39 and you have to raise your grandbabies.

But maybe your kid gets lucky and doesn't die in their sleep or have a heart attack or get myo/pericarditis.

3. It also settles a lot in the testes and ovaries.  This showed up in the animal testing, too. This is why so many scientists are worried about future infertility issues.  Maybe your kid is just infertile and can never have children.  😢Or they experience multiple miscarriages and stillbirths. 😭

4. And since it's GENETIC THERAPY and we now know it integrates into the human genome, maybe your grandkids are infertile too.

 

WHEEEEEEEEE!!  Isn't experimenting on children fun?

Edited December 2, 2025 by Goddess

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Ah yes.  The old "VAERS is full of lies" trope.  Niiiiiiice.

I didn't say that, you  did.

MY POINT is there is NO CONSPIRACY SUPPRESSING information about harm from vaccines.

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Unless it's YOUR kid.  And we don't know the percentage yet.

Then you're never going to find out how very small the percentage death rate is from vaccines.

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Statistically, children faced 0% risk of dying from covid.

1642 is not close to ZERO

 

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Tens of thousands in the trials?  WTF?  You always speak outta your a$$ and don't know anything.  You're lucky I reply to you at all.

There were 2,268 in the children's trial for Pfizer.  And likely a similar number in the Moderna trial.  One child died in the Moderna trial.  At least one child, Maddie deGaray, was permanently disabled in the Pfizer trial.  So we already know the risk was at least 1 in 2200 for death or permanent disability.  About half of the children were pulled from the trials after the first dose, so they were not even included in the results.  So now it's about 1 in 1100.  It's unusual for that many to drop out of a trial. Why did their parents pull them out?

Is 1 in 1100 risk for death or permanent disability an acceptable risk for YOUR children?  It wouldn't be for mine.  But then, I wouldn't inject my babies with, not only an experimental genetic therapy, but also coupled with an experimental delivery system - the LNPs.

Thanks for playing, doorknob.

I didn't say 10s of thousands in trials for CHILDREN, doorknob.

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

So, millions of children injected with an experimental GENETIC THERAPY.  These are not "vaccines".  They are GENETIC THERAPY, fraudulently marketed as "vaccines."

We really didn't know what would happen.  (Well, we did, if you paid attention to the animal testing.)

You'd think that would mean all the more proceeding with caution.  But no......there's $billions$$ to be made here!!  We can't let long-established medical ethics stand in the way of money!

Here's what we have found out since the force-jabbing of children, who stood zero risk from covid:

1. The spike from the injections has NO OFF SWITCH.  Your body keeps producing toxic spike protein in perpetuity.  Latest studies show it's still being produced in bodies 3 years later.  will you still be producing toxic spike 7 years from now?  10 years from now?  15 years from now?  We just don't know.  How exciting, right guys?!?

2. The spike settles in various organs, that's why the adverse events are so varied.  Autopsies have shown it settles mainly in the HEART.  It's why so many 9 year olds are keeling over from heart attacks in the last few years.  It also settles in the adrenal glands - they die in their sleep, like 17 year old Sean Hartman from Ontario. 

So maybe your kid dies when they're 9.  Or maybe when they're 29, a week before their wedding.  Or maybe when they're 39 and you have to raise your grandbabies.

But maybe your kid gets lucky and doesn't die in their sleep or have a heart attack or get myo/pericarditis.

3. It also settles a lot in the testes and ovaries.  This is why so many scientists are worried about future infertility issues.  Maybe your id is just infertile and can never have children.  Or they experience multiple miscarriages and stillbirths. 

4. And since it's GENETIC THERAPY and we now know it integrates into the human genome, maybe your grandkids are infertile too.

 

WHEEEEEEEEE!!  Isn't experimenting on children fun?

mRNA vaccines generate ANTIBODIES in people and that makes them VACCINES.

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

MY POINT is there is NO CONSPIRACY SUPPRESSING information about harm from vaccines.

Really?  And yet here we are 5 years later and only just hearing about child deaths from the jab.  After parents have been screaming from the rooftops and you all called them dirty anti-vaxxers - AFTER THEY HAD THEIR KIDS VACCINATED.

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

mRNA vaccines generate ANTIBODIES in people and that makes them VACCINES.

I covered "antibodies" in the Trickle thread.  It's the lowest standard for knowing if a vaccine is effective.

Learn about how the human immune system works before you beak off.

You can inject pink lemonade and it will create antibodies.

[Goddess]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I didn't say 10s of thousands in trials for CHILDREN, doorknob.

45 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What you're ignoring is the tens of thousands that were studied in the TRIALS.

We're talking about children here.

Get lost, you doofus.  You're ignorant and know nothing.

[Goddess]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

that makes them VACCINES.

They are not vaccines.

The technology was originally intended and studied for GENETIC THERAPIES for GENETIC DISEASES - like CF, where there is a missing or damaged gene and then the GENETIC THERAPY INJECTION would go in a fix or repair the GENE.

Fuque, you're stupid.

[Hodad]

Oh, did I miss anything? Just unhinged ranting? Okay, whew.

 

Oh look, the "vaccines are killing the kids" zombie argument is back. Let’s actually look at the scoreboard before we start spreading more FUD that will engender vaccine hesitancy and kill more kids. 

If you were genuinely worried about heart damage, you should have been rooting for the vaccine. The medical consensus is that you are roughly 7 times more likely to get myocarditis from the actual virus than from the shot.

In the United States, myocarditis-related mortality rates declined from 1999 to 2019, but this progress was notably reversed with a significant rise amid the COVID-19 pandemic years of 2020 and 2021. At the height of the pandemic, nearly three-quarters of the excess myocarditis deaths occurred in patients with COVID-19 infection listed on their death certificates. 

A certain number of people in any age group are going to die of myocarditis or other cardiac events--with or without a vaccine. Some died. Some died within short time, but was it coincidental or causal?If these vaccines were significantly risky, the rollout of a massive vaccine program would have resulted in measurable excess deaths, right? Suddenly more cardiac deaths among teens after the vaccines were rolled out--excess deaths by number, even without an assigned cause? Right?

Where's the "mass die-off" of young people? It’s a ghost story. The CDC did a deep dive into death certificates for young adults (ages 16–30) to find these supposed vaccine-induced heart attacks. They found zero. Zero.

The truth is that FUD-mongers are gonna spread FUD. You're emotionally invested in a conclusion you formed years ago by reading conspiracy crap and misleadingly vivid anecdotes posted by randos online. And you chose this path instead of science and data. 

 

[User]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

You will also be able to critically infer that there are a lot more than just 10 children.  Like, a LOT more.  And how it's been covered up.

Um, no. There was nothing provided here for us to make any such inference at all. 

I can't find anything to back up any of the claims here either. There is no public record or information to back up the claim the FDA tried to pay him off, no copy of the death certificate, no copy of the autopsy... 

There is no reason to believe any of this nonsense. 

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

In pre-Covid times, this would have been pulled from the market in the first week.

You continue to purposefully be dishonest about what VAERS is and does, you do so by playing this vague innuendo game instead of an actual logical argument. 

 

[User]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

C'mon on, all you vax fascists.

Defend this like you've been defending it for the last 4 years.

The floodgates are gonna open.  New Zealand is opening up their database, following this.

This was world-wide.  How many children did you kill?

Defend what? You are pushing the same lies and anti-vax crap you have always been pushing. 

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

Really?  And yet here we are 5 years later and only just hearing about child deaths from the jab.  After parents have been screaming from the rooftops and you all called them dirty anti-vaxxers - AFTER THEY HAD THEIR KIDS VACCINATED.

I heard about myocarditis deaths YEARS AGO.

NO ONE expected the vax to be perfect, just save more lives than would otherwise be saved and that certainly happened.

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

I covered "antibodies" in the Trickle thread.  It's the lowest standard for knowing if a vaccine is effective.

Learn about how the human immune system works before you beak off.

You can inject pink lemonade and it will create antibodies.

IRRELEVANT. It won't create antibodies against a deadly virus like a designed vaccine.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

We're talking about children here.

Get lost, you doofus.  You're ignorant and know nothing.

You're a conspiracy theorist with random interwebz sources.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

They are not vaccines.

The technology was originally intended and studied for GENETIC THERAPIES for GENETIC DISEASES - like CF, where there is a missing or damaged gene and then the GENETIC THERAPY INJECTION would go in a fix or repair the GENE.

Fuque, you're stupid.

You don't know what you're talking about. The vaccines were proven effective in trials with 60,000 participants.

I got 5 jabs and NO COVID, despite flying around the world for 30+ hours during the height of the pandemic.

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

I heard about myocarditis deaths YEARS AGO.

Not from the government. They tried to hide it. 

Top federal health officials actively took steps to “delay warning the public” for months in 2021 about the potential risks of heart-related complications from receiving mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, a scathing interim report from Sen. Ron Johnson’s office alleges.

That is why it is a big deal that the FDA added this warning. 

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're a conspiracy theorist with random interwebz sources.

You post Facebook videos from lwnjs like Robert Reich. Look in this:

[Goddess]

14 hours ago, User said:

I can't find anything to back up any of the claims here either. There is no public record or information to back up the claim the FDA tried to pay him off, no copy of the death certificate, no copy of the autopsy... 

Ya, I guess you're right.  The kid probably isn't even dead, since there is no death certificate included in the article.  It is likely a faked photo.

Yup. 

The father is definitely lying about the whole thing.  The kid is alive and well - you're correct.

[User]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Ya, I guess you're right.  The kid probably isn't even dead, since there is no death certificate included in the article.  It is likely a faked photo.

Yup. 

The father is definitely lying about the whole thing.  The kid is alive and well - you're correct.

The point isn’t if the kid is or isn’t dead, it’s that no evidence has been provided that any of us can scrutinize as to why he died.

If you and this father want us all to believe that COVID vaccine killed him, he had an enlarged heart, all this was on the autopsy and the FDA tried to bribe him numerous times, we need to see evidence.

Who at the FDA did this? Any records of this? 
 

Where is the autopsy? If he is going to tell us about it, why not share it so we can see? 
 

 

Edited December 3, 2025 by User

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, User said:

Who at the FDA did this? Any records of this? 
 

Where is the autopsy? If he is going to tell us about it, why not share it so we can see? 

Do you think maybe the FDA, who made the determination, have all this information?  Maybe Ramirez' lawyer?  Death certificates and autopsy reports are uploaded to VAERS?  Do you think they might be there?

You don't trust the FDA now?  What changed?  

No.

These things were not included in the article or in the FDA memo, so you're right.  Clearly the kid is still alive and the whole thing is fake.

[User]

8 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Do you think maybe the FDA, who made the determination, have all this information?  Maybe Ramirez' lawyer?  Death certificates and autopsy reports are uploaded to VAERS?  Do you think they might be there?

You don't trust the FDA now?  What changed?  

No.

These things were not included in the article or in the FDA memo, so you're right.  Clearly the kid is still alive and the whole thing is fake.

Asking me a bunch of questions doesn’t change the facts here that we have no autopsy, no evidence of any FDA bribes, nothing to cooperate this story.

If you want us to believe this, if this father does, we need evidence.

You have none. 

[Goddess]

17 hours ago, Hodad said:

If you were genuinely worried about heart damage, you should have been rooting for the vaccine. The medical consensus is that you are roughly 7 times more likely to get myocarditis from the actual virus than from the shot.

This claim, like many of the claims made about the shots early in the covid days, has been repeatedly debunked.

I covered the subsequent studies in the Trickle thread.  Like 3 years ago.

Penn State, like a lot of Universities, receives funds from Pfizer in the tens of millions of dollars.

Universities seldom bite the hand that feeds them.

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, User said:

Asking me a bunch of questions doesn’t change the facts here that we have no autopsy, no evidence of any FDA bribes, nothing to cooperate this story.

If you want us to believe this, if this father does, we need evidence.

You have none. 

I already said you were right.

No death certificate exists.

No autopsy reports exist.

The FDA is lying.

The father is lying.

VAERS is false.  Nothing in it is trustworthy.

The kid is alive and well.

You win.

 

No children have died from the covid jabs.

Happy now?

[User]

13 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I already said you were right.

No death certificate exists.

No autopsy reports exist.

The FDA is lying.

The father is lying.

VAERS is false.  Nothing in it is trustworthy.

The kid is alive and well.

You win.

 

No children have died from the covid jabs.

Happy now?

Well, you are just being absurd to avoid the point.

YOU came here pushing this as evidence of a kid dying from the Covid vaccine, and to support the FDA leaked “memo” saying 10 kids died from the Covid vaccine.

If this is really an example of one of those alleged 10 kids, this only proves exactly why reporting off VAERS like this is dishonest and or ignorant as there is no real evidence to support saying this kid died from the vaccine.

Maybe he did… but until the father, you, or anyone can actually show us this autopsy, or any actual evidence support this, we have no reason to believe it or somehow make national policy decisions impacting everyone over it. 
 

[Goddess]

Just curious.... did you demand death certificates, autopsy reports and private medical records for any of the covid deaths claimed by the FDA?

How do you know they're not lying about those, too?

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Well, you are just being absurd to avoid the point.

YOU came here pushing this as evidence of a kid dying from the Covid vaccine, and to support the FDA leaked “memo” saying 10 kids died from the Covid vaccine.

If this is really an example of one of those alleged 10 kids, this only proves exactly why reporting off VAERS like this is dishonest and or ignorant as there is no real evidence to support saying this kid died from the vaccine.

Maybe he did… but until the father, you, or anyone can actually show us this autopsy, or any actual evidence support this, we have no reason to believe it or somehow make national policy decisions impacting everyone over it. 
 

No, no.

I'm agreeing with you.

It's obvious the FDA is lying and no children died of the covid jabs.  Obviously if it were true, they would release all the death certificates, autopsy reports, emergency room reports, private medical records for each one.

I mean they did that for each covid death claimed during the pandemic, so why wouldn't they do it now?  

Claiming children died from the covid jabs without publicly releasing all those records - it's obviously a conspiracy.

[Goddess]

Oh, by the way.  You and I have always disagreed on the actual number of covid deaths in Canada.

Please provide death certificates, autopsy reports, emergency room visit records, private medical records for EACH one.