Deluge Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 We've heard some of it before, but climate cultists pounce when truth makes its appearance. Renewable electricity, mostly wind power, is useless in every dimension. It is extremely expensive but is made to look cheap by hiding an 80% subsidy. It is an exorbitantly expensive method for reducing CO2 emissions. Industry lobbyists and sinister environmental organizations, like the Sierra Club, have manipulated public policy to milk taxpayers and electricity users for billions. According to the Sierra Club, wind power electricity is economically viable without government assistance. This pronouncement of the Sierra Club has no relationship to reality. For the Sierra Club the most worrisome thing about wind power, something they avoid mentioning, is that the propellors kill birds... https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2024/07/11/useless_wind_power_1043988.html Quote
robosmith Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 2 hours ago, Deluge said: We've heard some of it before, but climate cultists pounce when truth makes its appearance. Renewable electricity, mostly wind power, is useless in every dimension. It is extremely expensive but is made to look cheap by hiding an 80% subsidy. It is an exorbitantly expensive method for reducing CO2 emissions. Industry lobbyists and sinister environmental organizations, like the Sierra Club, have manipulated public policy to milk taxpayers and electricity users for billions. According to the Sierra Club, wind power electricity is economically viable without government assistance. This pronouncement of the Sierra Club has no relationship to reality. For the Sierra Club the most worrisome thing about wind power, something they avoid mentioning, is that the propellors kill birds... https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2024/07/11/useless_wind_power_1043988.html Your fossil fuel industry funded site has NO CREDIBILITY. Wind and solar are growing like gang busters and they are NOT BEING FUNDED by FOOLS LIKE YOU. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your fossil fuel industry funded site has NO CREDIBILITY. Wind and solar are growing like gang busters and they are NOT BEING FUNDED by FOOLS LIKE YOU. That's just silly. Who do you expect to believe this clap-trap? When government subsidies are given to greenie windmills and mirrors, we are all funding it. Did you really not know that? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
herbie Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 The CANTservative crowd at it again. Quote
Deluge Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Your fossil fuel industry funded site has NO CREDIBILITY. Wind and solar are growing like gang busters and they are NOT BEING FUNDED by FOOLS LIKE YOU. That site has more credibility than anything you cultists can produce. And I'm a tax payer, so yes I am funding that shit. You're a pervert and a liar. Go repent. Kill the entire industry, just like it says in that article. Quote
Fluffypants Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 45 minutes ago, herbie said: The CANTservative crowd at it again. The Dumbocrats are at it again who thinks using tons of land for something as unreliable as the wind to power the country is the answer. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: That's just silly. Who do you expect to believe this clap-trap? When government subsidies are given to greenie windmills and mirrors, we are all funding it. Did you really not know that? Do you really not know that fossil fuels are being funded by US government subsidies? LMAO Quote Yes, the US government provides subsidies to the fossil fuel industry, with estimates ranging from over $16 billion to over $34 billion annually, according to reports from the Fossil Fuel Subsidy Tracker and Oil Change International. These subsidies come in various forms, including tax breaks, direct financial support, cheap access to public lands for drilling, and regulatory loopholes, notes Oil Change International. Types of subsidies Tax breaks: The fossil fuel industry receives various tax breaks from the government, notes Oil Change International. Access to public lands: Companies get cheap access to drill for oil, gas, and coal on federal and state lands, and these royalties are sometimes lower than market rates, says Oil Change International. Direct payments and loans: The government provides direct financial support and loans to the industry, says Environmental and Energy Study Institute. Regulatory support: This can include things like regulatory loopholes, and the government can use public money for cleanup of the industry's "mess," according to Oil Change International. Research and development funding: Some government funding goes to research and development for fossil fuel technologies, says Oil Change International. Subsidies vs. climate goals This support is happening even as the government makes commitments to address climate change, notes The Cool Down. The issue is a subject of debate, with some arguing that the federal government is supporting the fossil fuel industry at the expense of essential programs for working families, according to Oil Change International Quote
paxamericana Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 I'm surprised Michael hasn't jumped on this thread. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Do you really not know that fossil fuels are being funded by US government subsidies? LMAO Considering fossil fuels are the primary source of energy, why shouldn't the be subsidized? You were wrong about subsidies. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Considering fossil fuels are the primary source of energy, why shouldn't the be subsidized? You were wrong about subsidies. You are wrong about fossil fuel subsidies. There is plenty of SCIENTIFIC REASON to abandon fossil fuels. Quote
robosmith Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Considering fossil fuels are the primary source of energy, why shouldn't the be subsidized? You were wrong about subsidies. 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Your fossil fuel industry funded site has NO CREDIBILITY. Wind and solar are growing like gang busters and they are NOT BEING FUNDED by FOOLS LIKE YOU. YOU'VE POSTED NO EVIDENCE that FOOLS like YOU are subsidizing Wind Turbines. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 6 minutes ago, robosmith said: You are wrong about fossil fuel subsidies. There is plenty of SCIENTIFIC REASON to abandon fossil fuels. Like? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 1 minute ago, robosmith said: YOU'VE POSTED NO EVIDENCE that FOOLS like YOU are subsidizing Wind Turbines. Tweenkie-Poo...the subsidies come from the government. Where does the government get funds from? Taxes. Ur a slippin' Sweetie. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: I'm surprised Michael hasn't jumped on this thread. He is too busy trying to make the "other forum" work for the rejects from here, like Black Dog. 2 1 Quote
robosmith Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Tweenkie-Poo...the subsidies come from the government. Where does the government get funds from? Taxes. Ur a slippin' Sweetie. Still ^ZERO EVIDENCE. Quote
robosmith Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Tweenkie-Poo...the subsidies come from the government. Where does the government get funds from? Taxes. Ur a slippin' Sweetie. Trump cancels millions in funding for offshore wind projects NPR https://www.npr.org › 2025/08/31 › nx-s1-5522943 › t... Aug 31, 2025 — The Trump administration is cancelling $679 million in federal funding for ports to support the country's offshore wind industry, the latest ... Trump administration cancels $679 million in funding for ... PBS https://www.pbs.org › newshour › politics › trump-adm... Aug 29, 2025 — The Transportation Department on Friday canceled $679 million in federal funding for a dozen offshore wind projects, the latest attack by ... Trump cancels $679 million in federal funding for offshore ... Reuters https://www.reuters.com › sustainability › climate-energy Aug 29, 2025 — The Trump administration said on Friday it was cancelling $679 million in federal funding for 12 offshore wind projects, including $427 ... Quote
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Trump cancels millions in funding for offshore wind projects NPR https://www.npr.org › 2025/08/31 › nx-s1-5522943 › t... Aug 31, 2025 — The Trump administration is cancelling $679 million in federal funding for ports to support the country's offshore wind industry, the latest ... Trump administration cancels $679 million in funding for ... PBS https://www.pbs.org › newshour › politics › trump-adm... Aug 29, 2025 — The Transportation Department on Friday canceled $679 million in federal funding for a dozen offshore wind projects, the latest attack by ... Trump cancels $679 million in federal funding for offshore ... Reuters https://www.reuters.com › sustainability › climate-energy Aug 29, 2025 — The Trump administration said on Friday it was cancelling $679 million in federal funding for 12 offshore wind projects, including $427 ... Man you're some piece o' work. Your own clips here prove my point. The US has been subsidizing windmills and mirrors. Trump is stopping that because it's asinine. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 7 hours ago, herbie said: The CANTservative crowd at it again. So you CAN'T disagree with any of the points, so you resort to childish insults that wouldn't impress anyone past the grade 5 level Very convincing. you're clearly the adult in the room LOL Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Deluge Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 15 hours ago, herbie said: The CANTservative crowd at it again. No, you CANT destroy this country. Hey, you're right, that does work! 1 Quote
Deluge Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 (edited) 12 hours ago, robosmith said: Do you really not know that fossil fuels are being funded by US government subsidies? LMAO Do you really know two wrongs don't make a right? Fossil fuels have been around a lot longer than those bird killing monstrosities you cultists have been putting up, so they go first. Get it? Besides, whatever funding the government has been providing is necessary. Remember, stupid, you can't drive automobiles using sailboat fuel. Edited November 19, 2025 by Deluge Quote
herbie Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: So you CAN'T disagree with any of the points, so you resort to childish insults that wouldn't impress anyone past the grade 5 level Very convincing. you're clearly the adult in the room LOL I'm the ONLY one posting facts, the points YOU make are absolute shit. So having actual knowledge and experience in science and technology, I AM the only adult in the room So yer laffin at yerselves children. 1 Quote
Legato Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, herbie said: I'm the ONLY one posting facts, the points YOU make are absolute shit. So having actual knowledge and experience in science and technology, I AM the only adult in the room So yer laffin at yerselves children. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 8 minutes ago, herbie said: I'm the ONLY one posting facts, th You never post any facts and 90% of your posts are you whining like a 4-year-old: Conservatives and anyone who thinks different from you weird names. It's kind of a running joke. And that's when you aren't doubling the value of your home with a credit card or the like Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
WestCanMan Posted November 20, 2025 Report Posted November 20, 2025 On 11/18/2025 at 3:26 PM, robosmith said: Your fossil fuel industry funded site has NO CREDIBILITY. LMAO. Thanks for comin' out, CNN boy. Go get your 11th booster shot now so that you don't keel over while you're trying to squeeze into your old Justin Trudeau jammies. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted November 20, 2025 Report Posted November 20, 2025 5 hours ago, herbie said: I'm the ONLY one posting facts, the points YOU make are absolute shit. So having actual knowledge and experience in science and technology, I AM the only adult in the room So yer laffin at yerselves children. Go look through this thread at all your posts, herbie. All you've done is make snotty accusations, period. You never even made a single attempt at stating any facts, so you're clearly 1) lying and 2) not contributing in an adult manner. IOTW, business as usual for a leftard. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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