CdnFox Posted November 21, 2025 Report Posted November 21, 2025 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yup...they are rather prone to over reaction and, of course, lying. 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted November 21, 2025 Report Posted November 21, 2025 50 minutes ago, herbie said: "Uselsee" renewables are now accounting for more USA power than fossil fuels are. But keep up the pigheaded resistance, we need people to laugh at. Miners won't need soap anymore once Donnie Diapers rolls out his clean coal. Herb...that was one month and from what I'm reading, I'm not sure the math makes sense. It appears there's some reality bending going on here. For instance... Quote The milestone is the result of a long term decline of fossil generation in the US power sector, with wind and solar growing substantially over the last decade. Ten years ago, in March 2015, fossil generation still provided 65% of US electricity generation. Wind and solar generation stood at just 5.7%. Since then, the share of wind and solar power has more than quadrupled. Solar power is set to account for more than half of new generating capacity installed in the US in 2025, with more than a third of new solar panels going to Texas. Solar’s rise has been extraordinary. Ten years ago, in March 2015, solar power accounted for just 1% of US electricity generation. By March 2025, this had grown to 9.2%. Last month Ember published a special report, US Electricity 2025, on the changes and trends in the US power sector last year. It found that solar was the fastest and largest growing source of electricity in the US in 2024. Wind and solar power combined rose to a record 17% of the US electricity mix in 2024, overtaking coal for the first time which accounted for 15%. https://ember-energy.org/latest-updates/fossil-fuels-fall-below-50-of-us-electricity-for-the-first-month-on-record/ As you can see...the math just doesn't support your proclamation. It looks like the truth is that wind and solar overtook fossil fuels in the production of NEW INSTALLATIONS. Not overall power generation. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
herbie Posted November 21, 2025 Report Posted November 21, 2025 Crayon eating wrong wingers that can't read the thread title once again play semantic games as they have no intelligent response. Every bit of data in the world is lying because the numpty club doesn't want to believe it. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 21, 2025 Report Posted November 21, 2025 2 minutes ago, herbie said: Crayon eating wrong wingers that can't read the thread title once again play semantic games as they have no intelligent response. Every bit of data in the world is lying because the numpty club doesn't want to believe it. Triggered leftie loser who can't refute a single thing being said and resorts to grade 3 insults like 'wrong wingers' in a desperate attempt to soothe his broken and shattered ego is triggered 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted November 22, 2025 Report Posted November 22, 2025 On 11/21/2025 at 2:26 PM, herbie said: Uselsee" renewables are now accounting for more USA power than fossil fuels are. And energy cost is higher then ever while reliability is at its lowest point in decades. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 On 11/21/2025 at 1:08 PM, Nationalist said: Yup...they are rather prone to over reaction and, of course, lying. It is you who is LYING by agreeing with CdnLIAR. Wind/Solar are increasingly replacing fossil fuels in many countries. Quote Yes, wind and solar are increasingly replacing fossil fuels in many countries due to declining costs, driven by a global economic and environmental transition. In 2023, solar and wind grew faster than oil and coal for the first time, and they are now cheaper to build than new fossil fuel plants in most places. This shift is enabling new capacity additions and is a significant development in the global energy landscape, though fossil fuel production is still increasing globally. Key trends supporting this shift Falling costs: The cost of solar power has fallen by 85% and wind power by 55% over the decade to 2020. More recently, solar is 41% cheaper and wind is 55% cheaper globally than the least expensive fossil fuels, notes a YouTube video from July 2025. Battery costs have also fallen dramatically, making it easier to store renewable energy. Rapid growth: Solar and wind are the fastest-growing sources of electricity generation in history. In 2023, solar added more new electricity than coal, and 92.5% of all new electricity capacity added worldwide came from renewables. Economic competitiveness: It is now cheaper to build and run new solar and wind farms than to continue running existing fossil fuel plants in many countries, according to ember-energy.org. This economic tipping point creates a cycle of decreasing costs for renewables and reduced desirability for fossil fuels. Energy security: Renewables offer greater energy security without the price spikes or risks associated with fossil fuel supply chains. Specific examples: In the European Union, wind and solar generated more electricity than fossil fuels in the first half of 2024. Germany has set ambitious targets to reach 80% renewable power by 2030 and near 100% by 2035. Solar has grown so rapidly in some countries that it is creating new challenges, such as lowering the water table in Afghanistan due to widespread use of solar-powered water pumps Quote
CdnFox Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 15 minutes ago, robosmith said: It is you who is LYING by agreeing with CdnLIAR. Wind/Solar are increasingly replacing fossil fuels in many countries. Dude, you're overreacting 2 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Deluge Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 11 hours ago, robosmith said: Wind/Solar are increasingly replacing fossil fuels in many countries. Thanks to the strong arming of zombie government climate cultists. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Thanks to the strong arming of zombie government climate cultists. Well if what they were saying was true it probably would be worth it. But the problem is it's not quite true. They cherry pick certain stats to make it look like things are going better than they actually are. For example you'll hear stories that such and such a state generated more power through renewable energy then it used. And this might very well be true, but the problem is most of it went unused by that state because it was not generated when they needed it. Sure when conditions were ideal it generated massive amounts of electricity but they have no way to store it to use when conditions aren't ideal. So the actual electrical use actually still primarily comes from fossil or nuclear fuel Or they will say things like such and such a state generated 90% of its power last year from Renewables, without mentioning that it bought electricity from its neighbors or other countries that were fossil based because they didn't have enough power when they needed it. So while it's actual generation was mostly renewable it's actual consumption was not necessarily If we ever develop the technology to store electrical energy as efficiently and inexpensively as we store chemical energy in the form of fossil fuels then there is no doubt in my mind that renewables will take over and replace all other forms of electricity almost overnight and power will be cheap. Renewable energy is inexpensive and if you could harvest it in places with constant sun and ship it where it was needed then there's no reason why we couldn't harvest enough to provide for all of our electrical needs. But we have no such technology or even close. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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