What The Liberals Did To Canada

[I am Groot]

Government taxes as a percentage of GDP are at a 24 year high, and yet we're still facing massive deficits everywhere. Local government has been steady. The provinces are gaining control of their spending. Only the federal government is out of control.

 

Edited October 28, 2025 by I am Groot

[Political Smash]

On 10/23/2025 at 10:44 PM, CdnFox said:

Liberals. I mean you could argue the first time they didn't know but he'd accepted bribes in violation of the law within 6 months and that was just the start. Every other time they voted knowing that was his deal. 

 

Liberals.  I mean it wasn't a secret. 

I can point to millions of them, pick the election and i'll tell you exactly how many there were. 

When you answer your own questions before the person you asked you run the very real risk of looking like a tard  

In a democracy the people get to make the choice and they chose corruption and grafts knowing damn well what Trudeau is doing. Like it or not that's democracy

Gee that's funny because what Trudeau put into the code of conduct only came to light about a month ago!

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Well,you know how to make it stop...LOSER HA HA HA

Your meltdowns?  Well , i have some theories but i'm not allowed to issue you lithium, and i see the lobotomy hasn't worked for you  so.... 

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ooooo, try as you might , you cannot insult well LOL

He doesn't' need to, you're a self-insult  

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Awww trying to say something??? 

Yes that you're a tard.  But unfortunately he didn't realize you're SUCH a tard that you were too tarded to realize he was calling you a tard    You've out-tarded him. LOL! 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Political Smash said:

Gee that's funny because what Trudeau put into the code of conduct only came to light about a month ago!

his actions made it clear long before then

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, taxme said:

You are just way too stupid and way too dumb to know that you are being insulted. 

Give me another arrow for my chart. 

Nope, just way too smart to give a $hitt what you LOSERS think LOL

OK...you got it LOL

[ExFlyer]

13 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Of course PP's news outlet would post this LOL

"The True North Centre for Public Policy is a Canadian conservative media outlet, advocacy organization, and registered charity. It operated the True North digital media arm. In 2025, they rebranded to Juno News."

Just more conservative propaganda LOL

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Your meltdowns?  ....

Y'know...it is heartwarming you really care abut my mental health but, you should seek professional help to figure out why your obsession with me is so overwhelming.

Then again, your deep sorrow of your political hero's FAILURE making you such a monumental LOSER leaves you with little else to revolve your simple life around.

Keep on keeping FAILING LOL

[Shady]

After a decade of Liberal governance.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Nope, just way too smart to give a $hitt what you LOSERS think LOL

 

LOL you literally wake up every morning and rush to put down arrows on my posts and those you don't like then spend hours all day trying to convince everyone that you're not butthurt and you don't care   

You couldn't scream "I care so much! And why don't you like me!?!?!"  any louder if you tried  

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Of course PP's news outlet would post this LOL

 

So you don't disagree with the facts, you're just mad they told them? 

LOL well that does sound like a liberal. 

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Y'know...it is heartwarming you really care abut my mental health

Of COURSE i do.. 

If you ever got better i'd lose all this free comedy   LOL 

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

LOL you literally 

OH PHUCK...you're back again.

Gettin real tired of LOSERS like you. 

I know lots of devoted conservatives ( I was one till PP became leader) and thank goodness they are not a$$holes like you LOL

[eyeball]

On 10/27/2025 at 6:10 AM, ExFlyer said:

We need temporary foreign workers because Canadian will not do the jobs and would rather collect EI..

There's probably a little more to it than that.  The first thing someone that's temporarily laid off will need to consider is housing, including the cost of moving, especially if it's halfway across a province never mind Canada. Most will conclude the cost will be greater than the temporary financial straits they're in and especially if they're simply moving to another temporary job.

Canada's economy has had a large seasonal aspect to it forever.  If there absolutely needs to be some strict uncompromising moral code attached to employment now and going forward that refuses to tolerate seasonal unemployment and temporary employees then it's going to come with a cost to the economy.

Public policies can't just make financial sense they also have to address this moral panic.  It just is what it is.

[herbie]

My kid came to visit in the 2005 Saturn I gave her. Got to thinking how after 2 years of marriage it would've been similar if I'd been driving a 1963 Studebaker or Rambler orphan model. We weren't. We had a 5 year old Civic, a brand new Japanese 4x4 and our first home. Not still renting.
So I recognize things are harder for younger people. I also remember in 1982 we both had union jobs and were spending every penny and in massive debt. Had to borrow folding tables and a ping pong table and chairs from our neighbours for the first kid's christening. 

I also recall well we had Mulroney and things didn't get better - you could feel the whole country breathe a sigh of relief when Chretien won. And the same thing with Harper. Shit didn't get any better.

So drop this nonsense about who and what party will cure all. 

[ExFlyer]

20 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There's probably a little more to it than that.  The first thing someone that's temporarily laid off will need to consider is housing, including the cost of moving, especially if it's halfway across a province never mind Canada. Most will conclude the cost will be greater than the temporary financial straits they're in and especially if they're simply moving to another temporary job.

Canada's economy has had a large seasonal aspect to it forever.  If there absolutely needs to be some strict uncompromising moral code attached to employment now and going forward that refuses to tolerate seasonal unemployment and temporary employees then it's going to come with a cost to the economy.

Public policies can't just make financial sense they also have to address this moral panic.  It just is what it is.

You are probably right to an extent.

Thing is, in my area almost every store is looking for workers.  They did a news stories and store owners say they get tons of emails but no one shows up.

This time of year bigger stores are looking for seasonal workers and they are not getting people showing up either (Costco stores here (3 in my area) say they have not gotten near the people they need.

I have relatives in the Okanagan Valley and they could not get workers in the orchard or vineyards and crops rotted. I understand the same situation was experienced  in Ontario.

Traditionally and realistically, it has been foreign workers (temporary or not) that have worked in the agriculture, orchard etc area because Canadians did not want to work there.

I understand they are minimum wage jobs but, we have always had minimum wage jobs and there were folks willing to work for it. Yes, things cost more nowadays but they were costly to those that worked for min wage before too. I personally lived through the 15% mortgage rates and had to do without for a number of years but we did. 

 

Edited October 28, 2025 by ExFlyer

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

I have relatives in the Okanagan Valley and they could not get workers in the orchard or vineyards and crops rotted. I understand the same situation was experienced  in Ontario.

Traditionally and realistically, it has been foreign workers (temporary or not) that have worked in the agriculture, orchard etc area because Canadians did not want to work there.

I recall when fruit picking jobs, tree planting etc etc were often picked up by hippies and students migrating back and forth across Canada. Nowadays you see something similar with tourism, think ski resorts and kayak guiding.

Migrants in one way shape or form have always been part of our economy and culture. Nowadays however there's fewer Canadian hippies and students and more seasonal employers than ever.

What I don't recall is all the moral panic the economy, public policies and employers need to deal with.

[ExFlyer]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I recall when fruit picking jobs, tree planting etc etc were often picked up by hippies and students migrating back and forth across Canada. Nowadays you see something similar with tourism, think ski resorts and kayak guiding.

Migrants in one way shape or form have always been part of our economy and culture. Nowadays however there's fewer Canadian hippies and students and more seasonal employers than ever.

What I don't recall is all the moral panic the economy, public policies and employers need to deal with.

Yup, me too. 10 cents for a paint bucket full of blueberrys in Richmond BC LOL

Ski resorts, kayaking, river runs etc are more fun than work

Thing is, there are no hippies, students or teens wanting to do that so, foreign workers seem to be the only way to get the crops in.

[eyeball]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

Thing is, there are no hippies, students or teens wanting to do that so, foreign workers seem to be the only way to get the crops in.

There's still a few hippies and students just not as many or enough to meet the demand.

[herbie]

A half pint of strawberries retails for more than we earned picking them in High School.
And the East Indian lady who ran an office cleaning service tried to undercut the pocket change amount I paid my 13 yr old daughter to clean our office every Saturday. She even contracted out and paid other East Indians even less, I saw a whole family of 5 cleaning out an adjacent store and the kid told me they SPLIT the $15.

Now that's disgusting, but my BIL ran a service that paid minimum wages in Vancouver and charged 5 times as much for similar jobs. You're a business person, what will you pay for office cleaning? $89 mo or $350?

Those fruit pickers we used to see are now the tree planters. "Hippies" with dreadlocks, girls that share the same sleeping bags, young guys from Etiopia, the Congo, eastern Europe. If you're good at it you can make ok money and see the country on your days off.
OMG memories of running an Internet cafe and breathing pheromones from all the sweaty young women.... the wife knew when planting season was here!

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Ski resorts, kayaking, river runs etc are more fun than work

They're more fun to work in as well. I'm fortunate that I'm employed in tourism with one of the highest paying and satisfying jobs you can get on the marine side of things. I've had more than a couple deckhands and co-workers who've moved on to even more lucrative and full time things like the coast guard or the towing industry.

37 minutes ago, herbie said:

OMG memories of running an Internet cafe and breathing pheromones from all the sweaty young women.... the wife knew when planting season was here!

Living the dream eh? I do have to say the deckhands I have now are a lot better looking and smelling than what I was used to as a fisherman.

[eyeball]

Seriously though...housing is the biggest challenge. Tree planting or farms where you're often in a camp or bunkhouse setting is one thing. On a fish boat home and work were often one and the same especially when seasons were 6 months or more long. Bouncing back and forth between a ski resort in the interior or a resort on the coast is clearly different. Some employers offer housing but many simply can't, especially the smaller entrepreneurs that set up shop seasonally.

Even 50 years ago around here however it was not at all uncommon that home was a shack on a beach, a tree fort, or the back seat of your car. From there you moved up to a friends couch, a shared apt/house and if you worked at it or were lucky one day a downpayment on an empty lot.

Then it was back to a treehouse or shack while you built a regular house.

And sure enough we've often got a migrant parked out back nowadays.

[taxme]

On 10/26/2025 at 10:20 AM, ExFlyer said:

What did I post that was fake???

How many houses did PP get built?

When was 43.5 billion cut from health care funding?

Oh and in case you forgot....but Google knows you are full of sh1t  LOL. "the Stephen Harper government cut healthcare funding by changing the funding formula for transfers to the provinces and territories after the 2004 Health Accord expired in 2014. This resulted in an estimated $36 billion less in federal funding over 10 years compared to the previous formula. Critics from unions and think tanks argued the cuts were part of a strategy to undermine public healthcare and were a result of the government's refusal to negotiate a new, stable Health Accord with the provinces. 

Again, a lot of bather with no content from confux LOL

"you're about to look completely stupid again right? "  Yup, you sure did LOL

PP cannot do anything because he is not the PM of Canada right now. Your dear commie leader in Ottawa is the crime minster of Canada. That buffoon wants all Canadians to live in subsidized government housing. That imbecile does not Canadians to own their own home. It was the lieberals in power that created the housing crisis problem in Canada, by bringing in millions of legal and illegal 3rd world immigrants into Canada, you dumb lieberal twit. Phk awf, stupid.

[taxme]

8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Of course PP's news outlet would post this LOL

"The True North Centre for Public Policy is a Canadian conservative media outlet, advocacy organization, and registered charity. It operated the True North digital media arm. In 2025, they rebranded to Juno News."

Just more conservative propaganda LOL

And of course it is quite obvious that you get all of your lies and bullshit from the Pravda news outlets like the CBC, CTV and Global and other lying lieberal communist news outlets. You probably get the Toronto Star delivered to your grandmas basement door every day, right Stalin? I will bet that you do not even get out of your bed until at least 2 O'clock in the afternoon, eh? 😂

I love conservative propaganda whom are a well known source for honest and reliable news and for telling the truth and stating the facts which hurts little Stalin dolts like you, eh Stalin. 🤮

Juno News is where everyone should go to get the truth and facts about what is really going on here in commie lieberal Canukistan. Rebel News is another great source for conservative news. Phk awf. LOL.

[herbie]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

On a fish boat home and work were often one and the same

TV Commercial

30 year old skipping down the street
I remember fish....

I ask every new SaveOn manager if they know where the highway goes to.
Prince Rupert?
Yeah, Canada's 2nd biggest seaport. Why does your store only sell frozen Chinese sewer fish?

The opportunities are still there. My kid worked her way to almost triple her income changing jobs over 2 years. And just like then jobs are still not what ya know, but who ya know.

 

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, herbie said:

Why does your store only sell frozen Chinese sewer fish?

Because just about everything caught here is shipped out, a lot of it to China.

28 minutes ago, herbie said:

The opportunities are still there. My kid worked her way to almost triple her income changing jobs over 2 years.

Yes there are. I know kids who are making a grand a day out fishing. The days are a lot fewer and farther between though than they used to be. There's also more boats on the bottom or rotting on beaches hereabouts than are out fishing.

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

And just like then jobs are still not what ya know, but who ya know.

Good thing I don't have to go catch mine anymore...I know a guy or two.

 

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, taxme said:

PP cannot do anything ....

YaHooo, the most truthful thing you have ever said. 

PP cannot do anything...but whine LOL

15 hours ago, taxme said:

And of course it is quite obvious that you get all of your lies and bullshit from the Pravda news outlets like the CBC, CTV and Global and other lying lieberal communist news outlets. You probably get the Toronto Star delivered to your grandmas basement door every day, right Stalin? I will bet that you do not even get out of your bed until at least 2 O'clock in the afternoon, eh? 😂

I love conservative propaganda whom are a well known source for honest and reliable news and for telling the truth and stating the facts which hurts little Stalin dolts like you, eh Stalin. 🤮

Juno News is where everyone should go to get the truth and facts about what is really going on here in commie lieberal Canukistan. Rebel News is another great source for conservative news. Phk awf. LOL.

Ohhh poor puppy...when facts slap you on the face you try and discredit them....well, go ahead..give us the real facts...deny and prove you are right.

Oh wait, you can't? Must be because your brain is wired for FAILURE....LOSER LOL

[ExFlyer]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

TV Commercial

30 year old skipping down the street
I remember fish....

I ask every new SaveOn manager if they know where the highway goes to.
Prince Rupert?
Yeah, Canada's 2nd biggest seaport. Why does your store only sell frozen Chinese sewer fish?

The opportunities are still there. My kid worked her way to almost triple her income changing jobs over 2 years. And just like then jobs are still not what ya know, but who ya know.

 

C'mon, you know exactly why they sell Chinese, or Taiwanese, or Korean or other fish form Asia. They are much cheaper and folks are not willing to pay the high prices for BC fish.

You and I know we did not buy a house when we were young, we rented, lived with roommates and did whatever till we saved enough for a down payment. No one was "entitled" to own a house back then and they are still not "entitled" to own one.