What The Liberals Did To Canada

[ExFlyer]

On 10/28/2025 at 11:07 AM, Shady said:

After a decade of Liberal governance.

 

[Shady]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Which has nothing to do with the policy of the elected government.  Canada is a sinking ship.

[herbie]

Speak for yourself! I was 30 and married when we bought our first house. That seems "young" to me these days! 😆

I invented a new Oriental exercise for us older guys.
You do those slow poses and recite the vowels: I call it Oww Chi

EH!
EEE!
AIIIIIYY!
OOOOOH!
EWWW!
WHY! did I even try that at my age?

[ExFlyer]

43 minutes ago, Shady said:

Which has nothing to do with the policy of the elected government.  Canada is a sinking ship.

But it has everything to do with PP popularity...which is falling like rockslides  LOL

[I am Groot]

On 10/28/2025 at 9:46 AM, ExFlyer said:

Of course PP's news outlet would post this LOL

"The True North Centre for Public Policy is a Canadian conservative media outlet, advocacy organization, and registered charity. It operated the True North digital media arm. In 2025, they rebranded to Juno News."

Just more conservative propaganda LOL

I couldn't help notice you didn't say the stats were untrue.

[I am Groot]

Been hearing about heavy food bank usage lately? Guess who's using them?

 

 

[I am Groot]

On 10/28/2025 at 2:32 PM, ExFlyer said:

You are probably right to an extent.

Thing is, in my area almost every store is looking for workers.  They did a news stories and store owners say they get tons of emails but no one shows up.

I understand they are minimum wage jobs but, we have always had minimum wage jobs and there were folks willing to work for it. Yes, things cost more nowadays but they were costly to those that worked for min wage before too. I personally lived through the 15% mortgage rates and had to do without for a number of years but we did. 

Wages have not risen nearly as much as costs over the past ten-twenty years. So what we call minimum wage today isn't going to give you near as much as it did twenty years ago.

Capitalism functions very well to solve a shortage of workers. You raise your wages until you can attract sufficient capable workers. If that means raising prices, then you do so. Naturally, this means fewer customers. Some places will go under, so there are enough customers to support those who remain at the prices they must charge for workers. 

That's how Capitalism works. 

I recognize agriculture is a different situation. Today's young people are rarely in physical condition to do a short stint at bringing in crops and such with any kind of efficiency. They'd be aching and moving like snails halfway through their first shift. That's why we fly in people from the south who do this at home all the time and have the physical condition and experience to do it. I'm fine with that.

Edited October 30, 2025 by I am Groot

[taxme]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Speak for yourself! I was 30 and married when we bought our first house. That seems "young" to me these days! 😆

I invented a new Oriental exercise for us older guys.
You do those slow poses and recite the vowels: I call it Oww Chi

EH!
EEE!
AIIIIIYY!
OOOOOH!
EWWW!
WHY! did I even try that at my age?

But in todays lieberal Canada, a married couple at thirty will be lucky if they will ever be able to buy and own a home here in Marxist lieberal Canada country. My son knows a person who is married and they have been saving their money for years to be able to buy a home. They were looking at buying a million dollar home. That is about the going price for a home here in BC. They both saved up $200,000 to be able to put down as a down payment on a home, and guess what? It was not enough money and the bank said no. They did not have enough of a down payment. WTF. Bloody ridiculous. 

But, this is the new Canada that you and your leftist leiberal ilk have helped create where married couples who want to buy a home cannot. My wife and i were also lucky to be able to have bought a home in the good old days before fake Covid came along and your dear Marxist liberal leader Turdeau started to phk Canada up. Lieberals like you have nothing to feel or be proud of. You and your lieberal ilk phkd up Canada big time and you still will no doubt vote for the same scumbags that did phk up Canada. You are one of the many losers here who do have mush for brains. Your brain is broken Oriental man, so do something about it, will ya. Just saying, lefty. 🤡

[I am Groot]

On 10/28/2025 at 3:54 PM, eyeball said:

I recall when fruit picking jobs, tree planting etc etc were often picked up by hippies and students migrating back and forth across Canada. Nowadays you see something similar with tourism, think ski resorts and kayak guiding.

That's now how it works now. Fruit picking is an almost industrial activity. Have you seen these agricultural workers from the south? They move like crazy. They've been doing it for years and can pick about ten times as much as your hippies of olden days. Farmers want no part of some city boy who can pick a bag or two and then needs to rest up because it's hot and he's tired.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

But it has everything to do with PP popularity...which is falling like rockslides  LOL

Ahem

LOL say what you like, more canadians would rather see PP as prime minister than carney  

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

That's now how it works now. Fruit picking is an almost industrial activity. Have you seen these agricultural workers from the south? They move like crazy. They've been doing it for years and can pick about ten times as much as your hippies of olden days. Farmers want no part of some city boy who can pick a bag or two and then needs to rest up because it's hot and he's tired.

If you worked hard and showed some interest you could make pretty good coin at all sorts of seasonal piecework in the olden days. Tree planting, clam digging, fruit picking, mushroom picking, logging/fire season often dovetailed with summer fishing season. There's nothing like showing up at the buyers at the same time a couple high ballers do with 3 times your production to motivate you. Firewood at $350-$400 a cord is nothing to sneeze at either. I did good at $150 a cord back in the day.

It's definitely harder now though. Way more people, politics and rules have entered just about all of the above. I get it, without the rules the pickings would get slimmer and slimmer.

I started off at age 12 with a paper route in downtown Toronto and more customers than I could handle soon had me raking leaves and shoveling snow for them. I doubt many kids can do that anymore, adults probably pushed them all out.

Edited October 30, 2025 by eyeball

[ExFlyer]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ahem

LOL say what you like, more canadians would rather see PP as prime minister than carney  

Ahem

You cannot even read tour own polls correctly. LOL

While the parties are close in the polls the key statement is "Preferred PM - Carney 49.4% Polievere  27.4%"

No one will vote conservative as long a PP is the leader LOL

Edited October 30, 2025 by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Wages have not risen nearly as much as costs over the past ten-twenty years. So what we call minimum wage today isn't going to give you near as much as it did twenty years ago.

Capitalism functions very well to solve a shortage of workers. You raise your wages until you can attract sufficient capable workers. If that means raising prices, then you do so. Naturally, this means fewer customers. Some places will go under, so there are enough customers to support those who remain at the prices they must charge for workers. 

That's how Capitalism works. 

I recognize agriculture is a different situation. Today's young people are rarely in physical condition to do a short stint at bringing in crops and such with any kind of efficiency. They'd be aching and moving like snails halfway through their first shift. That's why we fly in people from the south who do this at home all the time and have the physical condition and experience to do it. I'm fine with that.

I agree with wages not keeping up but, that is not new and yet, we survived.

The reason we don't make or manufacture in Canada is exactly why we are in the the problem we are in. While our minimum wage has been kept low...other wages have not and we have out priced ourselves and we demand cheaper products so...manufacture has moved out of Canada.

As for our agriculture, well, our climate ensures we only grow for a few months and harvest for one month and the rest of the time, we must import.

 

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I couldn't help notice you didn't say the stats were untrue.

OK, they are untrue. 

I just look at the source and see a totally biased conservative press and realize only one side will emphasized. Like Fox and Trump... Fox does nothing but praise Trump and theTrue North Centre for Public Policy praises PP.

Note the "preferred PM".  Conservatives will not win if Canada does not like PP.

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Edited October 30, 2025 by ExFlyer

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

OK, they are untrue. 

In what way?

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I just look at the source and see a totally biased conservative press and realize only one side will emphasized.

You mean like the CBC or Toronto Star?

What side do you think they should emphasize when it comes to crime statistics?

Edited October 30, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I agree with wages not keeping up but, that is not new and yet, we survived.

It's not new, but it's a progressive thing that builds on itself year by year as wages continue to lag increasing prices.

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

The reason we don't make or manufacture in Canada is exactly why we are in the the problem we are in. While our minimum wage has been kept low...other wages have not and we have out priced ourselves and we demand cheaper products so...manufacture has moved out of Canada.

To the United States? They manufacture lots of stuff in Europe, even in places like Sweden. Why is that?

 

[ExFlyer]

8 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

In what way?

You mean like the CBC or Toronto Star?

What side do you think they should emphasize when it comes to crime statistics?

 

 

You asked LOL.  Crime is up everywhere. We, canadians, are not abnormal or unusual abut hey, if you wish to use it to prove some sort of point, go ahead. LOL

The CBC and Toronto Star do not call themselves "Canadian conservative media outlet, advocacy organization, and registered charity".  LOL

Any side the conservative propaganda site wishes.

 

[ExFlyer]

11 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

It's not new, but it's a progressive thing that builds on itself year by year as wages continue to lag increasing prices.

To the United States? They manufacture lots of stuff in Europe, even in places like Sweden. Why is that?

 

Yes, all things are progressive...wages, inflation, crimes, etc etc. 

To the world.. Any place that can make stuff we want for cheaper.

For sure Europe manufactures but they also import form China, India, Taiwan.

Also, has 745 million people as opposed to our paltry 40 million and is 10 million sq kms with 50 countries whereas Canada is 9 million sq kms. So much easier to be self sustaining. 

[Shady]

Policy after policy after policy disaster since they took office.

 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ahem

You cannot even read tour own polls correctly. LOL

While the parties are close in the polls the key statement is "Preferred PM - Carney 49.4% Polievere  27.4%"

No one will vote conservative as long a PP is the leader LOL

Ahem. 

Canadians will not be voting on who they like the best.    

Further, looks like carney's  popularity is starting to sag 

And the poll you posted is the one that has them lowest, and it's STILL a statistical tie  

Seems like carney might be in trouble pretty quick, and that people would be just as happy to have PP as leader   LOL

We can hear you crying from here btw 

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ahem. 

Canadians will not be voting on who they like the best.    

....

HA HA HA

What are you smoking??? They will vote for who makes the best leader and clearly, they do not think it is PP LOL

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

HA HA HA

 

I accept your admission of defeat   

Quote

What are you smoking??? They will vote for who makes the best leader and clearly, they do not think it is PP LOL

They say they're going to vote for Poilievre. Sorry about that but it looks like your leader may not be the best guy after all

[ExFlyer]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I accept your admission of defeat   

They say they're going to vote for Poilievre. Sorry about that but it looks like your leader may not be the best guy after all

No, they would like to vote conservative but PP is not the one they want in charge. LOL. I/2 Canadians prefer Carney

No Canadian will vote for a person they think will not be able to lead....and PP is not the leader they like.

Only groupies like you would vote for PP for leader of the Country 

PP would lead us in the same direction as Trump led the USA LOL

Maybe conservative would have a chance if Carney was leader of the party . LOL

Between 1986 and 1989, housing costs in Toronto increased by 150%, the highest four-year price escalation to date." when Mulroney was PM. "The average resale price for all MLS-listed properties in Canada rose from around $245,149 in 2004 to $413,000 in 2015, which is a nearly 69% increase when Harper was PM   "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_property_bubble

Edited October 31, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

No, they would like to vote conservative but PP is not the one they want in charge.

You won the leadership convention. He's about to win a leadership review. It would seem you're wrong.   He is the one they want to lead

Have let's face it, the left knows it. That's why they spend so much of their time and energy including yourself trying to convince us it isn't true. If it was true you wouldn't need to

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

You won the leadership convention.  He's about to win a leadership review. It would seem you're wrong.   He is the one they want to lead

PP is sliding down so fast he needs a soft landing at the bottom LOL

The polls say you are soooooo wrong LOL

Even his own MP's are jumping off his wagon LOL

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/politics-poilievre-comments-9.6948395

 

"AS OF OCTOBER 30 Mark Carney continues to enjoy a high and stable approval rating; 3 in 5 Canadians say they approve of the way he is handling his job, compared to just 30% for Pierre Poilievre. A clear majority (60%) also believe the country’s ability to secure a good trade deal would be hobbled – not helped – by a Poilievre-led government.”"

Edited October 31, 2025 by ExFlyer