CdnFox Posted August 22, 2025 Report Posted August 22, 2025 Canada to drop counter-tariffs on some US goods one day after call with Trump | Canada | The Guardian And once again Carney drops tariffs as soon as trump tells him to and gets nothng in return. One phone call and Carney can't scramble fast enough to do what he's told Canada to drop counter-tariffs on some US goods one day after call with Trump | Canada | The Guardian Trump turned around and said in a news conference that nobody can stop him and he likes carney a lot so he's hopeful he'll do what he's told. Carney is selling us out. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 Yes but no but yes but no but yes but he's banker, all hail the banker. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted August 23, 2025 Author Report Posted August 23, 2025 Oh and by the way - TRUMP JUST INCREASED OUR TARIFFS AGAIN!!!! So CARENY just DROPPED our tariffs while trump just jacked ours substantially by adding a craptonne of 'steel derivative' products to the steel tariff list!! Added tariffs have piled on to an already ‘crushing situation’: Canadian steel producers Trump tariffs: Canadian steel makers dismayed by additional tariffs So once again, for the SECOND time Carney has a phone call, Tariffs against canada go UP and tariffs against the us GO DOWN. Does ANYONE believe for a SECOND that a guy who caves this often and this badly to trump is going to wind up with a 'good deal' for canada??? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 (edited) Elbows down Canucks! Edited August 23, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
herbie Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 Shit excuse for a Canadian without a clue regarding negotiations nor the economy used yet another event to belittle his PM. No wonder he loves PP. Should apply to the National Post. Quote
Legato Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, herbie said: Shit excuse for a Canadian without a clue regarding negotiations nor the economy used yet another event to belittle his PM. No wonder he loves PP. Should apply to the National Post. So...negotiating a defeat is an admirable thing, who knew. 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 It was a mistake trying to take on America out of pride. Shame on Canada. Should have just lowered tariffs down to zero to begin with Quote
eyeball Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 It's just too bad Carney couldn't do a better job of pointing out and convincing Canadians that tariffs ultimately do more economic damage to those who impose them. Mélanie Joly said it best months ago that the only people who will get Trump's attention and get him to change his mind will be American consumers when it finally dawns on them they are who's paying for Trump's tariffs. For some really dumb reason Conservatives seem to be doing as little as possible to dismiss Trump's BS that his tariffs are paid for by Canadians - the misperception helps PP as well as Trump and Carney should call them both out on it. Personally I always figured Melanie Joly would have been a better choice for PM. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: tariffs are paid for by Canadians Short term it absolutely are the Canadians who pays, same as the Chinese. Long term it would be consumer if no other supplier enters the market or produces locally. Quote
eyeball Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 1 minute ago, paxamericana said: Short term it absolutely are the Canadians who pays, same as the Chinese. Long term it would be consumer if no other supplier enters the market or produces locally. Yes well, I suppose it will be sometime until Americans notice Trump has boxed them in by putting tariffs on just about every supplier and producer on the planet. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Yes well, I suppose it will be sometime until Americans notice Trump has boxed them in by putting tariffs on just about every supplier and producer on the planet. America doesn't need these outside input, we are an entire Continent with some of the world's best geography. Export for us has never exceeded 13% since our country's founding. We really are immune to counter tariff. We trade more amongst our own states than any other single country. Quote
Shady Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 49 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's just too bad Carney couldn't do a better job of pointing out and convincing Canadians that tariffs ultimately do more economic damage to those who impose them. He had the chance during the campaign and chose to do the exact opposite. Elbows up remember? 😂😂😂 Quote
Shady Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 2 hours ago, herbie said: Shit excuse for a Canadian without a clue regarding negotiations nor the economy used yet another event to belittle his PM. No wonder he loves PP. Should apply to the National Post. We’re not allowed to criticize our leaders over terrible negotiations now? What is this North Korea or something? Go f**k yourself. If you want to settle for failure because you view politics as a team sport that’s your business, but nobody else is required to. It’s king past due that Canadians started to care more about policy instead of personality. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted August 23, 2025 Author Report Posted August 23, 2025 2 hours ago, herbie said: Shit excuse for a Canadian without a clue regarding negotiations nor the economy used yet another event to belittle his PM. No wonder he loves PP. Should apply to the National Post. ROFLMAO!!! Piece of shit lefty who already betrayed his country criticizes his betters because he can't refute the facts! No wonder he lies so much, Should apply to the CBC Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted August 23, 2025 Author Report Posted August 23, 2025 2 hours ago, Legato said: So...negotiating a defeat is an admirable thing, who knew. It 1 hour ago, eyeball said: It's just too bad Carney couldn't do a better job of pointing out and convincing Canadians that tariffs ultimately do more economic damage to those who impose them. Well it's tough because first off it's a lie and second off his entire campaign was based on telling people the exact opposite. You remember elbows up? It would also help if he didn't keep doing this a) Directly after being ordered to by his orange master and b) at the same time Trump increases tariffs on us. Honestly, is there nothing in the universe this guy could do that wouldn't cause you to immediately lie on his behalf? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 1 hour ago, Shady said: He had the chance during the campaign and chose to do the exact opposite. Elbows up remember? 😂😂😂 Yup he should have listened to Joly and made her observation a cornerstone of his response and campaign. In any case I see there's a fair bit of relief being expressed in the response from Canadian businesses to Carney dropping tariffs. I also see more American businesses complaining about Trump jacking them up in every direction. Inevitability abounds. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Aristides Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 We dropped tariffs on CUSMA compliant goods, the tariffs on steel, aluminum and autos remain so basically we are tariffing the same things as the US. 1 Quote
Legato Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 8 hours ago, CdnFox said: It No not that Stephen King, Just the Carney court jester. 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 53 minutes ago, Aristides said: We dropped tariffs on CUSMA compliant goods, the tariffs on steel, aluminum and autos remain so basically we are tariffing the same things as the US. Goal lis to get back some of the manufacturing plant that the Biden admin let go. Quote
Aristides Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 (edited) 10 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Goal lis to get back some of the manufacturing plant that the Biden admin let go. Lke what? The US doesn't have the large amounts of cheap electricity required to make aluminum economically, the US Canada auto pact goes back to 1965 and NAFTA was Reagan/Bush. Edited August 23, 2025 by Aristides Quote
paxamericana Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Lke what? The US doesn't have the large amounts of cheap electricity required to make aluminum economically and the US Canada auto pact goes back to 1965. Growing pain, its a good thing. Quote
CdnFox Posted August 23, 2025 Author Report Posted August 23, 2025 8 hours ago, eyeball said: Yup he should have listened to Joly and made her observation a cornerstone of his response and campaign. In any case I see there's a fair bit of relief being expressed in the response from Canadian businesses to Carney dropping tariffs. I also see more American businesses complaining about Trump jacking them up in every direction. Inevitability abounds. And yet it's our businesses that are failing and not theirs. The fact is they can't survive the tariffs that trump has put on. The idea of counter tariffs was to hurt the other guy and force them to the table. But instead we showed we'd drop them faster than carney's pants as soon as trump asks So while other countries have been able to work something out ours have not and the impact is horrible. Nobody else's economy is anywhere near as dependent on us trade as ours. Honestly trump could nuke our country, carney would say it's all part of the plan and you'd be defending him. There is nothing he can do that would make you admit he's hurting the country. Just like you were with trudeau. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Venandi Posted August 23, 2025 Report Posted August 23, 2025 12 hours ago, herbie said: Shit excuse for a Canadian without a clue regarding negotiations nor the economy Nice.... must be a highly contagious condition though. As I see it, people who voted for elbows up now defend elbows down with equal and opposite vehemence... almost as if that was what they voted for in the first place. 1 Quote
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