Far left activists and politicians look to bully, intimidate, harass Christian music artist and parishioners from exercising right to practice religion

[Moonbox]

Just now, User said:

Perhaps... but you are incapable of actually articulating why I am unreasonable. 

The number of times I've seen you begin a debate with an accusation of lying is a good start.  

Your circular performances where you invent dumb strawmen to argue against, then refuse to move on when your opponent refuses adopt your fabrication as their point, leading you to further accusations of lying is my favorite. 

The "I call out lying when people are lying", or "I point out people are running away when they are running away" is another spectacular example of self-affirming, circular reasoning. 

Just now, User said:

You seem to be conflating your inability to support your positions with my being unreasonable for challenging them with facts and logic. 

This comment would hold more water if you were actually making logical, fact-based arguments, rather than waving your hands around and nattering vaguely about "context" whilst accusing people of bigotry.  🙃

[User]

54 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

In all, I think this dofus should have stayed home.  He has legal recourse, ie. to sue the city of Montreal when he gets back to the states LOL.  I'm sure the Quebec judge will love this guy...

Why would he sue? It was the church that was fined and suffered harm/damages here. 

Do you have anything to say about that?

[User]

4 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The number of times I've seen you begin a debate with an accusation of lying is a good start.  

How many of those times were they lying?

That would be a good start for you. 

5 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Your circular performances where you invent dumb strawmen to argue against, then refuse to move on when your opponent refuses adopt your fabrication as their point, leading you to further accusations of lying is my favorite. 

Well, next time you think I am doing that, be sure to articulate it instead of trying to bring it up later with no specific examples. 

5 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The "I call out lying when people are lying", or "I point out people are running away when they are running away" is another spectacular example of self-affirming, circular reasoning. 

Well... were they lying? Yes. Did they run away? Yes. 

6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

This comment would hold more water if you were actually making logical, fact-based arguments, rather than waving your hands around and nattering vaguely about "context" whilst accusing people of bigotry.  🙃

No accusations, there are a handful of clear bigots on this forum when it comes to religion. 

But like I said to you before and you didn't bother responding to, if you have a specific scripture you were interested in that you accused me of running away from responding to, go for it. 

 

[CdnFox]

14 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

This is nowhere in the Canadian Charter.  You copied it from a different wiki page.   

How does that make it invalid? Do you disagree with it? Or are you just being deliberately obtuse for the purposes of trying to promote your agenda despite not having a logical argument for it

I noticed you couldn't actually address @Army Guy 's point

[West]

13 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

No foreigner is entitled to work in Canada. 

He has a ministry in Canada with people who are citizens of the country. 

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Quote the part of the Constitution that mentions “freedom of speech”. 

So he correctly quotes the expression clause, and then....

Quote

I didn’t say speech wasn’t part of the expression clause.  

😂 Are you his wife? 

Just admit that we do have freedom of speech in Canada, and that, just like in America, there are limits to how far you can take that. Even in America, you'll quickly end up in cuffs if you say "bomb" at the airport, you can be sued for defamation, and one of the most serious crimes you can commit is sedition, which can be nothing more than just saying words (and contrary to what you've been led to believe by left4rd MSM cult-handlers, breaking windows at the capitol is not a seditious activity).

It's true that at this point in time our government is doing everything that they can to control the narrative of every topic that can be politicized, and censoring the truth to promote their own disinformation, but that doesn't mean that the we don't theoretically have freedom of speech in Canada, just like they do in Russia. 

[Barquentine]

On 7/28/2025 at 12:17 PM, blackbird said:

Are you LGBTQ?

Oh, you're Bi-curious? 

[Barquentine]

On 7/27/2025 at 1:07 PM, blackbird said:

It's a church service, not a concert.  Church services often have musicians and visiting preachers.

I'm fine with that. My original post was just about the National Park concert and how what he advocates is totally contrary to Parks Canada's mandate.

[Barquentine]

So it's not just us and it isn't new...

Oct 11, 2020 Nashville,TN. "We had THREE venue changes and so much resistance BUT THE CHURCH WILL NOT BE SILENCED!"

Oct 12 2020: Nashville Tennessean
"Nashville did not permit the event
Nashville officials said Monday morning that organizers did not apply for a permit to host the event and that the Metro Public Health Department is working to investigate what happened."

But here's what he's really about:

Rolling Stone: July 11, 2022
 "Sean Feucht Ministry Inc. ballooned in revenue from $280,000 in 2019 to more than $5.3 million in 2020, ending the year $4 million richer than it started. (The accounting is curious: The ministry claims to have received zero dollars in contributions, despite Feucht avidly soliciting such gifts.)

Warren Cole Smith, president of Ministry Watch, says that leveraging a ministry to live the high life, is not just unseemly, it’s potentially illegal.  If a guy that makes less than $200,000 a year is buying multiple, million-dollar properties, at a minimum that warrants additional questions.”
What’s more curious is that Fuecht, who slaps “donate” buttons on all of his web sites, told the IRS he received zero dollars in contributions in 2020. Yet a review of public Venmo transactions reveals that Fuecht’s ministry received at least 250 donations during a one-week stretch in July 2020."

Christians love that graft!

[User]

5 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

So it's not just us and it isn't new...

You're comparing apples to oranges here. 

The protest in Nashville permit issues had nothing to do with the content of his speech, this was during OMG COVID lockdowns and ANY public gathering was frowned upon and not being permitted at the time. 

This was also out in public, not on private land, where there are generally requirements for permits that are just administrative in nature, to help with any streets being blocked off, safety, etc...

 

[blackbird]

22 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

I'm fine with that. My original post was just about the National Park concert and how what he advocates is totally contrary to Parks Canada's mandate.

How can Parks Canada have a mandate that is contrary to the Charter of Rights?  That's absurd.

[TreeBeard]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

How can Parks Canada have a mandate that is contrary to the Charter of Rights?  That's absurd.

Holding a concert is not a right under the Charter. 

[CouchPotato]

28 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Rolling Stone: July 11, 2022
 "Sean Feucht Ministry Inc. ballooned in revenue from $280,000 in 2019 to more than $5.3 million in 2020, ending the year $4 million richer than it started. (The accounting is curious: The ministry claims to have received zero dollars in contributions, despite Feucht avidly soliciting such gifts.)

Christians love that graft!

Once again, how is this relevant? No one here is defending his status as a Christian. I doubt any of us heard of him before last week. He could be the most heretical Christian in history as far as I know. So what? What has he done that justifies denying him a venue? There are tons of performers who come to Canada all year long and make far more dough than that.

Edited July 29, 2025 by CouchPotato

[CouchPotato]

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Holding a concert is not a right under the Charter. 

Freedom of expression and peaceable assembly are.

[CouchPotato]

33 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

I'm fine with that. My original post was just about the National Park concert and how what he advocates is totally contrary to Parks Canada's mandate.

What does he advocate that is contrary to the National Park's mandate?

[User]

8 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Holding a concert is not a right under the Charter. 

The issue isn't about holding a concert being a right, it is that it was denied based on the dislike of the speech...

 

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Holding a concert is not a right under the Charter. 

It absolutely is.

[Barquentine]

3 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

What does he advocate that is contrary to the National Park's mandate?

I have already explained that in this thread. Look up, way up.

[User]

3 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

What does he advocate that is contrary to the National Park's mandate?

My guess is that like other leftist take overs of government, they have incorporated some LGBTQ+- language in there about how the parks are a place of peace, love, and "tolerance" for LGBTQ folks to feel loved and accepted there or some such garbage. 

 

[Barquentine]

26 minutes ago, User said:

ANY public gathering was frowned upon and not being permitted at the time. 

Exactly. This guy flouts the laws, calls it oppression and fundraises on that from the gullibles. Read the Rolling Stone piece about this guy, see what he does.

[CouchPotato]

4 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

I have already explained that in this thread. Look up, way up.

I think you gave examples of things he said in the past. Like one of them was an X post. Are you saying that if you have tweeted 'unacceptable views' you are no longer allowed to hold a concert in a park? Do you have any examples of him promoting horrible things during his Canadian concerts?

You could deny tons of artists that right to perform on this grounds. 

Edited July 29, 2025 by CouchPotato

[Barquentine]

1 minute ago, CouchPotato said:

I think you gave examples of things

For cryin' out loud! Read the thread! Read my post about Canada Parks' mandate. It's a simple thing to do.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Exactly. This guy flouts the laws, calls it oppression and fundraises on that from the gullibles. Read the Rolling Stone piece about this guy, see what he does.

There is no "exactly" about it. You are conflating Canada denying a permit due to the contents of he speech with Nashville not permitting anyone because of COVID. 

The character of this guy is immaterial to the fundamental wrongness of viewpoint discrimination going on which was the subject here. 

[CdnFox]

59 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Oh, you're Bi-curious? 

Sort of, he's wondering why you're stupid AND uninformed at the same time  

[CouchPotato]

8 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

For cryin' out loud! Read the thread! Read my post about Canada Parks' mandate. It's a simple thing to do.

The mandate does say anything about whether you have made controversial tweets in the past. Has he done any of this in a national park that you know of?

Different venues sometimes have different speech values. You can be kicked from certain chat rooms and forums for using certain language right. But they can't ban you for having used that language someplace else. That's just insane. 

 

Edited July 29, 2025 by CouchPotato