First Nations Summit Ends In Disaster For Carney

[herbie]

7 minutes ago, taxme said:

Go to website Rebel News and phkn well learn something for a change.

Learn how the stuoid and gullible become like him.

[taxme]

20 minutes ago, herbie said:

Learn how the stuoid and gullible become like him.

Typical reply coming from a typical gullible stupid left wing nut job lieberal. This is why stupid lieberals like yourself will never learn a bloody thing. All that you are good for is to keep repeating the lieberal party communist line which teaches fools like you as to how to become a brainless zombie with no clue as to what you are talking about. 

For those who want to get the other side of the story, then go to website Rebel News and get the other side of the story. I know that this zombie will not do it only because he is afraid to maybe hear the truth for a change. 😇

[Army Guy]

On 7/30/2025 at 5:33 PM, LinkSoul60 said:

The ongoing joke because the Federal election results didn't go the way they want....   Alberta isn't going anywhere....it's simply not practical to be a landlocked sovereign 'country' of 4.5M people with only 2 options to sell their oil....Canada and the US.  Business would exit the province and people will follow.  Same BS as Quebec has talked for decades....   Pay your share of the National debt, introduce your own currency which would be close to worthless, and go....  Not close to reality or will it happen.

Or take trump up on his offer....and yes people will go, and people will come as well ....but what do you think the ROC canada is going to do after they leave....Cry, is about all they can do....and start thinking long term which is not so bright if it does happen...

Canadian dollar will be worth as much as the peso...the Canada pension plan would be gutted, and worthless, OAS the same, i highly doubt they would take any of the debt, Quebec said they would not, i mean if you take the debt you also are entitled to take any assets....like federal buildings, airports, military, RCMP, etc etc...once borders are redrawn, to accommodate BC if they stay with Canada...it would be one big sh!t show...

[LinkSoul60]

On 8/1/2025 at 5:33 PM, Army Guy said:

Or take trump up on his offer....and yes people will go, and people will come as well ....but what do you think the ROC canada is going to do after they leave....Cry, is about all they can do....and start thinking long term which is not so bright if it does happen...

Canadian dollar will be worth as much as the peso...the Canada pension plan would be gutted, and worthless, OAS the same, i highly doubt they would take any of the debt, Quebec said they would not, i mean if you take the debt you also are entitled to take any assets....like federal buildings, airports, military, RCMP, etc etc...once borders are redrawn, to accommodate BC if they stay with Canada...it would be one big sh!t show...

It's not going to happen so a moot point.  Funny that it's only hardcore conservatives crying again about this because they lost again.  Time to get over it and move on....  

[Army Guy]

52 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's not going to happen so a moot point.  Funny that it's only hardcore conservatives crying again about this because they lost again.  Time to get over it and move on....  

It is as close as it ever has been, if things don't get a little better, a good chunk of Canadians don't like where we are at or where we are going....Canadians put their trust into Carney and if he does not deliver, his reign will be short...

And i'm not crying just not as optimistic as you are, Canada is built on a house of cards one falls they all fall....there is no canada without any of the provinces... 

[LinkSoul60]

Just now, Army Guy said:

It is as close as it ever has been, if things don't get a little better, a good chunk of Canadians don't like where we are at or where we are going....Canadians put their trust into Carney and if he does not deliver, his reign will be short...

And i'm not crying just not as optimistic as you are, Canada is built on a house of cards one falls they all fall....there is no canada without any of the provinces... 

It's close because some Albertans are crying because they lost a federal election again?  I disagree...  Do you think the topic would have been raised if the conservatives had won.... I don't, which says this is just 'sour grapes'.  

Canada with all its provinces are going to be here long after you and I are no longer. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's close because some Albertans are crying because they lost a federal election again?

Right, they never ever complained before that or considered it! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Right, they never ever complained before that or considered it! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

But to the question....  Would this even be a topic if the conservatives had won?  Answer - no it wouldn't.  I want to leave Canada because we didn't win, again 🥲

[herbie]

Your talking about the handful of Albertans that were snivelling and whining even when the PM or half the Cabinet was from there.
Small minority of malcontents.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

But to the question....  Would this even be a topic if the conservatives had won?  Answer - no it wouldn't.  I want to leave Canada because we didn't win, again 🥲

That's not the question. The question is would there have continued to be mismanagement and a deliberate attempt to destroy the Alberta economy if the conservatives had won? That's what they've been pissed about with regards to the liberals

They want to leave Canada because they have been grossly unfairly treated, and that goes back many many many decades. Many are the sons and daughters of people who got screwed over horribly by the NEP. And even when the liberals aren't trying to wipe them out they are trying to milk them dry. Dion actually called them the cash cow when he wasn't thinking embarrassingly enough.

So it has nothing to do with whether or not they won an election. It has everything to do with whether or not they have faith in the government to not try and destroy their livelihood as well as their traditions.

I noticed this first nations are feeling the same way right now.

So your question is invalid and shows a lack of understanding of the circumstances. They were willing to give carnie a bit of a chance but they're not liking what they see and I can see why. It's pretty obvious nothing's going to happen under Carney.

You look at everything through your sense of partisan hackery and it leads you to the wrong conclusions and a lack of understanding. Take a step back and try and look at the real issues

[LinkSoul60]

45 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That's not the question.

Yes, it is a question and thanks for answering.  No, it wouldn't be a topic had the conservatives won.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, it is a question

No it's not. It's your attempted propaganda. Your argument is so weak and your skills are so poor that all you have left is to try and create a fake question and then pretend it was answered to justify your own teeny tiny little sense of self-worth

It all boils down to how they feel they're going to be treated.

They believed that the liberals will treat them badly and they are right historically. Apparently you agree or you'd be able to address the issue instead of hiding behind 6-year-old logic

[LinkSoul60]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

create a fake question

Create a fake question...really?  

I'm aware of Alberta's oil & gas gripes, but do you think this would be a conversation had the conservatives won?

[CdnFox]

42 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Create a fake question...really?  

 

Really really. Like I said, you might fool a six year old, but it's pretty obviously a fake question. It is the equivalent of the old joke question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet". Or do I need to explain that one to you as well?

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m aware of Alberta's oil & gas gripes,

And yet you try and sell that big question. Well I appreciate you coming clean about your dishonesty   

 

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but do you think this would be a conversation had the conservatives won?

We have seen before the conservatives win and Alberta become very unhappy very quickly.

If the conservatives Had won Then Alberta would do exactly the same sort of thing it's doing now, They would cautiously be optimistic and give the conservatives a chance to demonstrate that they live up to their word and not attack Alberta. Without a doubt they would probably have greater expectations than they do with Carney but they're giving carney a chance to.

If the conservative screwed them over then they would want to leave. I think the big difference is the conservatives wouldn't screw them over while the liberals are already moving in that direction. And albertans can see it. If Connie wanted to signal that he was willing to make peace with Alberta he should have canceled the no pipeline law.

So in the end assuming that the conservatives did the same thing the liberals did we'd be in about the same place. If the liberals did what the conservatives would have done we wouldn't be hearing separation talk.

It's pretty simple. Alberta is not upset about whether the liberals are conservatives win per se. They're upset for being treated like dog shit and they believe they're about to be treated that way again. And they're probably right

[ExFlyer]

On 7/31/2025 at 3:05 PM, taxme said:

It's all your lieberals fault, dummy. For ten years now, the lieberals have pretty much destroyed Canada from becoming a rich country and it's full potential. ....

 

On 8/1/2025 at 5:27 PM, taxme said:

Indeed and bloody sad. Another buffoon of a lieberal that is out to destroy Canada.  😛

Perhaps the reason the liberals have won the past 4 elections is because the conservatives have not presented a leader that the majority of the country could believe in???

Not going to debate who is/'was better but the voters of the country decided.

[blackbird]

Lot of these FNs leaders or so-called Chiefs are brain washed radicals who could care less about the economy or making Canada prosper.  We need political leaders who know how to deal with them and get Canada moving.  Build build,  drill drill, and ship ouf oil to thd world that demands it.

[LinkSoul60]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Really really. Like I said, you might fool a six year old, but it's pretty obviously a fake question. It is the equivalent of the old joke question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet". Or do I need to explain that one to you as well?

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And yet you try and sell that big question. Well I appreciate you coming clean about your dishonesty   

 

We have seen before the conservatives win and Alberta become very unhappy very quickly.

If the conservatives Had won Then Alberta would do exactly the same sort of thing it's doing now, They would cautiously be optimistic and give the conservatives a chance to demonstrate that they live up to their word and not attack Alberta. Without a doubt they would probably have greater expectations than they do with Carney but they're giving carney a chance to.

If the conservative screwed them over then they would want to leave. I think the big difference is the conservatives wouldn't screw them over while the liberals are already moving in that direction. And albertans can see it. If Connie wanted to signal that he was willing to make peace with Alberta he should have canceled the no pipeline law.

So in the end assuming that the conservatives did the same thing the liberals did we'd be in about the same place. If the liberals did what the conservatives would have done we wouldn't be hearing separation talk.

It's pretty simple. Alberta is not upset about whether the liberals are conservatives win per se. They're upset for being treated like dog shit and they believe they're about to be treated that way again. And they're probably right

No they wouldn't, and you would be in your glory with your proud Poilievre poster hanging over your bed.  But alas.... it wasn't meant to be again so back to the crying well we go.  

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Perhaps the reason the liberals have won the past 4 elections is because the conservatives have not presented a leader that the majority of the country could believe in???

Not going to debate who is/'was better but the voters of the country decided.

The majority of Canadians also did not elect the liberals. So that kind of shoots that theory down  

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Lot of these FNs leaders or so-called Chiefs are brain washed radicals who could care less about the economy or making Canada prosper.  We need political leaders who know how to deal with them and get Canada moving.  Build build,  drill drill, and ship ouf oil to thd world that demands it.

It is a delicate thing to handle the first nations and that's why the last thing we needed for a leader was a banker.

[ExFlyer]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The majority of Canadians also did not elect the liberals. So that kind of shoots that theory down  

 

Sad you cannot come to grips with the conservative losses for the past 4 elections. Maybe if they had a real leader, they would win LOL

Yes they did...that is how our democracy works...the party with the most votes wins. The majority of Canadians did not vote for conservatives LOL

 

Edited August 8, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

41 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Sad you cannot come to grips with the conservative losses

 

I never even mentioned that. I pointed out that the majority of Canadians didn't elect the liberals

That seems to have sent you into a bit of a mental tizzy, although I noticed earlier you were already stuck on repeat today and suffering from your usual brain damage   

I don't know why it's so hard for you to cope with simple facts

[ExFlyer]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I never even mentioned that. I pointed out that the majority of Canadians didn't elect the liberals

 

I don't know why it's so hard for you to cope with simple facts

I also pointed out the majority of Canadians didn't elect the conservatives LOL

Here are some simple facts.....the liberals won...4 times in a row and the conservatives lost...4 times in a row.  The conservatives did not and do not have a leader that Canadians want to lead the country so, Canadians did not vote for them.

Suck it up buttercup. LOL

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No they wouldn't,

Of course they would. They always have and they always will

your hatred, bigotry and general lack of knowledge or experience is leading you to pretend otherwise. But it is the truth

 

6 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

and you would be in your glory with your proud Poilievre poster hanging over your bed.

LOL  why is it that you lefties always start imagining people's bedrooms and such the moment you lose an argument or see  a fact you don't like   

Sorry punkin, but we weren't talking about your imagination of my bedroom (kinda creepy of you), we were discussing the factors that drive western alienation and alberta separatism. Carney did have a chance to address that but it is obvious that Alberta is not impressed with his efforts. They Don't Really match his rhetoric

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

I also pointed out the majority of Canadians didn't elect the conservatives LOL

Yes and my point was in response to that. In fact they got almost the same number of votes

So as I said that kind of shoots your theory down.

And in previous elections more Canadians voted for the conservatives than the liberals

Which tends to shoot your theory down in flames

If only you have the attention span long enough to remember what you were talking about you wouldn't have these issues

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Of course they would. They always have and they always will

 

 

 

 

Yes and my point was in response to that. In fact they got almost the same number of votes

So as I said that kind of shoots your theory down.

And in previous elections more Canadians voted for the conservatives than the liberals

Which tends to shoot your theory down in flames

If only you have the attention span long enough to remember what you were talking about you wouldn't have these issues

You always deflect from the fact the conservatives lost,... for the 4th time. And 4 leaders that cannot win.

If conservatives had more votes...they would be the government and, they are not, they are LOSERS!!

No theory...just all fact LOL

Attention span?? Says the one with a span shorter than his finger LOL

Hey LOSER...how does it feel to LOSE 4 times in a row and be second place fro so many years??? LOL

 

 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You always deflect from the fact the conservatives lost,.

I never even mentioned that the conservatives lost. You pointed out that the conservatives got less than 50% of the vote and that's why they lost. I pointed out that the liberals Got less than 50% of the vote and in fact got about the same as the conservatives did . And in previous elections the conservatives actually got more votes

So what you said was wrong and your buthurt about it. And now you feel the need to lie about what I said to try and cover up the fact that you are emotionally unstable about how slim would liberals victory was

I don't know why, but that's where we're at

[Army Guy]

On 8/7/2025 at 8:24 PM, LinkSoul60 said:

It's close because some Albertans are crying because they lost a federal election again?  I disagree...  Do you think the topic would have been raised if the conservatives had won.... I don't, which says this is just 'sour grapes'.  

Canada with all its provinces are going to be here long after you and I are no longer. 

I think Albertans  are crying on more than just losing the election..., i think they are looking for better representation, i think they are looking at getting rid of policies that keep oil and gas in the ground....which for the life of me still can not understand how everyone can not see that is beneficial to our whole nation...not to mention the dozens of other things that this country has wrong with it....most of them can be laid at Justins liberals feet/ now carneys liberals.....

I hope your right....but if these tariffs go on much longer and job loss keep adding up, not to mention the other Carney promises don't come to fruition, liberals are going to start bleeding support...

Edited August 10, 2025 by Army Guy