Trump can't make deals, says "the letters are the deals"

[Barquentine]

ca.finance.yahoo.com Mon, July 14, 2025
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that the letters he sent to Prime Minister Mark Carney and other leaders about new tariff rates are "the deals",
"I watched a show this morning and they were talking about, 'Well when's he going to make the deal?' The deals are already made. The letters are the deals. The deals are made. There are no deals to make," Trump said during an Oval Office meeting with NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte.

No one can negotiate with this Terracotta Turd!

[Michael Hardner]

That's like the deal I have with Greg on this forum. I instructed him to get rid of all the losers and ne'er do wells.... 

It was quite the deal 🤣

 

[herbie]

You're surprised someone who can't tell a trade imbalance from a subsidy can't tell a Letter of Intent from a Trade Deal? 
Hell, whisper 'MOU' into the skin tags he calls ears and watch his brain freeze completely as he scrambles to invent a new definition.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

ca.finance.yahoo.com Mon, July 14, 2025
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that the letters he sent to Prime Minister Mark Carney and other leaders about new tariff rates are "the deals",
"I watched a show this morning and they were talking about, 'Well when's he going to make the deal?' The deals are already made. The letters are the deals. The deals are made. There are no deals to make," Trump said during an Oval Office meeting with NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte.

No one can negotiate with this Terracotta Turd!

Carney can! He said so in the election and promised that he could deal with trump no trouble!

Carney wouldn't lie to Us would he?

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

That's like the deal I have with Greg on this forum. I instructed him to get rid of all the losers and ne'er do wells.... 

It was quite the deal 🤣

 

You could always just leave on your own Instead of making him do it      

 

Anyway carney promised he would be able to handle this so don't sweat it. Just sit back and watch him work his magic, that was the whole reason he got elected 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Carney can! He said so in the election and promised that he could deal with trump no trouble!

Carney wouldn't lie to Us would he?

He said he would fight for the best deal possible while pivoting away from USA. He has said repeatedly that the American people who will suffer under Trump’s trade wars are the only ones who can stop Trump. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

He said he would fight for the best deal possible while pivoting away from USA. He has said repeatedly that the American people who will suffer under Trump’s trade wars are the only ones who can stop Trump. 

He said repeatedly that he could handle trump.

He also said that he would end trade barriers between provinces in Canada by July 1st. Next to nothing has been done on that front and there's no plans. He also said he would build pipelines. But the anti-pipeline bill is still in place and he hasn't changed that so nobody's able to put forward any plans. And so far he's gotten a bad deal for Canada. He also said he would be elbows up and so far he hasn't done that either. The very famous liberal international trade negotiator, axworthy, called him a boot licker.

And he said he would have a deal by the time of the G7. Then it was at the G7. Then it was just after the G7. Then it was July 21st or else reciprocal tariffs no exceptions! Now it's august 1st.

But despite the lies and the obvious incompetence you'll just keep defending this guy till death. Do you not understand that this isn't about partisan politics anymore? Do you not get that this is going to devastate our economy and that his f*ck ups are going to have repercussions that will hurt poor people and middle class earners for literally decades to come? Do you honestly care so little about Canada or the suffering of people that you can still prop this guy up even though every week makes it more clear that he's not doin g well?

[paxamericana]

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

He said he would fight for the best deal possible while pivoting away from USA. He has said repeatedly that the American people who will suffer under Trump’s trade wars are the only ones who can stop Trump.

This notion that there is a future Canada with out America is completely absurd. Canada along with the European and Asian countries are aged out. No one is buying goods. Only the Americans. The world is literally running out of customers. Not only that, you are also running out of worker as you all head towards mass retirement. Your industry is not even globally competitive, your demographic and the aforementioned are terminal. Stop deluding yourselves. You’re America’s lackey until now and the foreseeable future.

The second issue is security, the American are no longer interested in keeping a global security umbrella afloat. We do not have a big enough security scare to keep protecting the sea lanes. Even if we wanted to we do not have enough of the right kinds of ships for that. Carriers are purpose built hammers not police cruisers, patrolling is a destroyer job. The maritime environment has also changed as the Ukraine war has demonstrated. Getting a surface vessel near a country’s coastline is challenging with the mass introduction of drones, even the US military , the greatest fighting force in the world , has acknowledged this difficulty. We expend  massive amount of high end munitions just to keep the straight of Hormuz from being closed by Iran and their proxy. Canada simply lack these capabilities. Unless you can protect your trade routes there is no trading. So guess what, you’re forced to do local trade with the means that are available, say south of your border. Stop day dreaming.

The Canadian ego knows no bounds even gravity has limits. 

Edited July 15, 2025 by paxamericana

[Barquentine]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He said repeatedly that he could handle trump.

Got the exact quotes on that?

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He also said that he would end trade barriers between provinces in Canada by July 1st.

He's dropped all federal barriers. Now it's up to the premiers. You do know the difference between Federal and Provincial, I hope.

 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But the anti-pipeline bill is still in place and he hasn't changed that so nobody's able to put forward any plans.

I think parliament has to be sitting to do that.

 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Do you not understand that this isn't about partisan politics anymore?

And yet you continue to make it so.

 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

his f*ck ups are going to have repercussions that will hurt poor people and middle class earners for literally decades to come?

Yes, Trump is a disaster!

The election was 78 days ago. Politics and international relationships do not transpire overnight. 

You're so intent on seeing Carney (and the country) fail you're looking like just another ovine cultist prat.

 

 

[Barquentine]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

This notion that there is a future Canada with out America is completely absurd.

I agree. And once the orange id!ot is gone, we'll get back to a good relationship again.

This notion that there is a future America without Canada, Mexico, Europe, China ...is completely absurd.

[paxamericana]

6 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And once the orange id!ot is gone, we'll get back to a good relationship again.

I’m telling you, the Americans, democrats or republicans will handle international affairs the same. 

Biden did not remove Trump’s initial trade tariffs, he added on more. You need to cut a deal, because no matter who is in office, they see the same reality I mentioned above.

[Barquentine]

9 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

You need to cut a deal, because no matter who is in office, they see the same reality I mentioned above.

Everybody needs a fair deal, but as I said in the OP, nobody can deal with an id!ot. You tell me why there are still no deals with any countries. None!

Anyway, have fun paying Trump's extra taxes on everything.

[Aristides]

If a letter is a "deal" for Trump, it will be interesting to see what other countries come up with as their "deal". Anyone can write a letter and call it a "deal".

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Got the exact quotes on that

Sure, came up lots during the campaign. In fact all the media asked half the time was whose best to handle trump. easy to find with a couple Google searches

Obviously you know you've absolutely lost the point when you try and pull that kind of crap. Did you miss the whole elbows up routine?

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He's dropped all federal barriers. Now it's up to the premiers. You do know the difference between Federal and Provincial, I hope.

Utterly meaningless and not what he promised. He claimed he was getting the premieres together and he would eknubate trade barriers. He talked about meeting iwth the provinces and working with premiers to do just that.  Never happened:

 

'Throughout the spring federal election campaign, Liberal Leader Mark Carney repeatedly vowed to “eliminate” interprovincial trade barriers and create “free trade by Canada Day.”

Carney’s government has now passed its planned changes into law — but it’s more like the start of a conversation than the final word."

Sorry but his promise was he would find a way to eliminate the trade barriers. And he meant provincial ones not federal ones.

Then after the election he started to walk it back. Now he's removed a few federal barriers which are really not the problem and he's done nothing to try and get the provinces to drop the rest of the barriers

 

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I think parliament has to be sitting to do that.

Parliament was sitting. Did you forget? He passed that useless bill that says someday he can designate certain areas as being special zones, which industry has turned around and said means nothing to them. It was another failure, he had to remove the anti-pipeline bill and he didn't. And Enbridge has come straight out and said we would put a proposal on the table but we're not interested in this environment with these laws

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And yet you continue to make it so.

If anything the opposite is true. I have said straight up I hope to hell he gets a good deal and it would be the silver lining of having him as prime minister if he did. I said there are plenty of other things that I am sure he will trip up on, but we need him to win on this.

And he's not winning

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Yes, Trump is a disaster!

A Disaster he said he could handle over and over and over again. And he's failing

And worse, this disaster comes on the heels of 10 years worth of disasters from the liberals that have left our economy in horrible shape and extremely vulnerable. So not only do the liberals lie their way in to power again and not only are they screwing up yet again which will cost us hugely again, thanks to their previous F UPS it's going to hurt even worse because we're not in a position to deal with it

 

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The election was 78 days ago. Politics and international relationships do not transpire overnight

He said they did. Aside from the fact that he was already doing business with trump's people, he knew that the tariff threat was right now and that he could handle it. It's not going well in case you haven't been paying attention. 

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You're so intent on seeing Carney (and the country) fail you're looking like just another ovine cultist prat.

Says the cultist who's defending carney despite the fact that it's obvious that the guy lied and that he is failing.

Lloyd axworthy, one of the most famous and successful liberal international negotiators for one of the most successful liberal governments called him a boot licker.  Perhaps you think he's some sort of partisan hack for the cpc as well?  You twat. 

Carney is incompetent and unable to get the job done. That is becoming more and more evident. Worse, his team does not seem to be competent and is not getting the job done.

I see in the paper today he's already preparing people for failure. He's saying that he can't get a good deal, he's just going to do the best he can. He says he's giving up on getting a good deal and is just trying to get stability, basically the idea that at least if we have a bad deal we can count on it's something. Which is utter bull crap

[Boges]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

If a letter is a "deal" for Trump, it will be interesting to see what other countries come up with as their "deal". Anyone can write a letter and call it a "deal".

It's just a new version of that silly chart. 

AFIK the 35% is meaningless because most goods are still USMCA compliant and they aren't moving off that. . . yet. 

[BeaverFever]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He said repeatedly that he could handle trump.

Yeah and?  You’re misrepresenting that to claim he said he would force Trump to abandon all tariffs without making any concessions in return, which he never said. 
 

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He also said that he would end trade barriers between provinces in Canada by July 1st. Next to nothing has been done on that front and there's no plans

False on 2 counts. He said he would end federal barriers to trade by July 1 and he did. That bill was passed on June 20. Several provinces have signed agreements with each other to remove provincial barriers and most others are actively working towards it.  But it’s not like waving a magic wand where they all just disappear overnight. 
 

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But the anti-pipeline bill is still in place and he hasn't changed that so nobody's able to put forward any plans

The “anti-pipeline” bill you’re referring to doesn’t need to be removed because the One Canada bill passed in June with vocal support from Poilievre and conservatives gives cabinet the power to ignore any element of it. And federal/provincial governments are not just waiting and hoping for someone to out forward plans, they’re out there working industry on plans to bring forward. 
 

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And so far he's gotten a bad deal for Canada. He also said he would be elbows up and so far he hasn't done that either. The very famous liberal international trade negotiator, axworthy, called him a boot licker.

Canada has fared better than most countries actually. We weren’t hit with any “liberation day” tariffs, the steel, aluminum copper and auto tariffs apply to the entire world, and the only tariffs specifically applicable to Canada, the so-called fentanyl tariffs are reduced to only to non-CUSMA compliant trade which is only a small fraction of our trade (~15% according to some) and will only get smaller as a lot of that trade actually IS CUSMA compliant but exporters/importers don’t bother to fill out the paperwork. Yeah Axworthy wants him to be more scrappy but that’s easy to say from the sidelines when it’s not your skin in the game.
 

With hundreds of billions of dollars in trade at stake, Carney has to show industry he’s making a good faith effort to be the adult in the room and negotiate, even if everyone knows in the end it may be mostly pointless against such an unstable nihilist. He may only be able to make a difference at the margins but with so much at stake even small differences matter. 
 

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And he said he would have a deal by the time of the G7. Then it was at the G7. Then it was just after the G7.

No he didn’t. 
 

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Then it was July 21st or else reciprocal tariffs no exceptions! Now it's august 1st.

This is true, but to my earlier comments about showing good faith effort knowing success would be limited to marginal improvement at best 

 

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But despite the lies and the obvious incompetence you'll just keep defending this guy till death. Do you not understand that this isn't about partisan politics anymore? Do you not get that this is going to devastate our economy and that his f*ck ups are going to have repercussions that will hurt poor people and middle class earners for literally decades to come? Do you honestly care so little about Canada or the suffering of people that you can still prop this guy up even though every week makes it more clear that he's not doin g well?

There are no lies or “obvious incompetence”  and the nobody is playing partisan politics even PP is watching his tongue for a change.  

Any damage done to this economy is done by the malign actor, Trump.  Let’s make that clear.
 

At this early stage we still have to go through the act of negotiating in good faith as everyone else is doing UK, EU, Australia, Japan, etc.  We may shave a couple points off a tariff here or there or get TACO Trump to push the deadlines back again. But as every intelligent adult knows no matter who is PM or what they do, the end will only come when Americans start demanding an end to the tariffs and Canada has pivoted away from USA.
 

US midterms are only 15 months away,  Trump’s tariffs by executive order are technically illegal and in violation of Congress insofar as they violate trade agreements ratified by congress like USMCA.  Congress not the president has sole authority to regulate trade and impose tariffs but slime-ball Republicans control congress and House Speaker Mike Johnson has sole authority to decide the legislative agenda and refuses to out tariffs on the agenda. We will see how that works out for Republicans next year, they might have to dust off their “the election was stolen” lies when all the Americans they’ve screwed over vote them out. 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

Sorry but his promise was he would find a way to eliminate the trade barriers. And he meant provincial ones not federal ones.

Then after the election he started to walk it back. Now he's removed a few federal barriers which are really not the problem and he's done nothing to try and get the provinces to drop the rest of the barriers

Surely you understand the PM doesn’t control provincial laws. First ministers have been meeting every month and a lot of provinces have signed agreements with each other to identify and remove barriers.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

which industry has turned around and said means nothing to them

who said that and when? Link please 

 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Enbridge has come straight out and said

Link please 

 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He said they did.

No he did not say anything remotely like relationships form overnight 

 

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I see in the paper today he's already preparing people for failure. He's saying that he can't get a good deal, he's just going to do the best he can. He says he's giving up on getting a good deal and is just trying to get stability, basically the idea that at least if we have a bad deal we can count on it's something. Which is utter bull crap

LOL love to hear the altered reality through conservative filters. He said no country is getting off without any tariffs and it’s unrealistic to think Canada would be any different….something everyone already understood. He never said he couldn’t get a “good deal” or that we would get a “bad deal” or that he’s giving up on anything. 

Admit it no matter what “deal” is made you will call it a “bad deal” even if it’s a 0.00001% tariff on 0.00001% of trade you’ll call it a bad deal and say he caved

Carney has been very clear:  he will take all the time necessary to get the best deal possible for Canada but no longer. Only the American people will out a stop to Trump’s tariffs and the solution is pivot away from US Aamd develop our own economy 

[herbie]

I erred in my last post. A letter of intent to talk trade wasn't what Trump said was the deal.

The guy's such a demented megalomaniac he meant the threat letter he sent them with his demands is the Trade Deal.

Talk "disruptive" all you want The Blob has FUBARd the whole world!

FFS using the US's current Rules of Engagement, some country could justify dropping a bunker buster on the White House to take out their leadership!

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Yeah and?  

And he can't, he lied. In fact he's doing worse than many other countries. And if trump's threat is true that he's now just told us what the deal is and won't negotiate further then we got a pretty crappy deal.

And you're just fine with all of that. You don't give a shit that a generation of Canadians is about to get sold out

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False on 2 counts. He said he would end federal barriers to trade by July 1 and he did.

Nope. He eventually changed it to that when he realized he couldn't deliver on what he promised but his original promise as noted in the newspaper article was that he would get the provinces together and end the business of inter provincial trade barriers.

He talked about meeting with them and working it out and that help they were on side etc

He utterly failed

 

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The “anti-pipeline” bill you’re referring to doesn’t need to be removed because the One Canada bill passed in June

The companies that put forward proposals all say it's bullshit. I named one that has come right out in publicly said it's bullshit.

So yes he absolutely did need to remove that because the industry doesn't believe the liberals for a moment. You shouldn't either but you don't give a shit about Canada all you care about is your tribe and your echo chamber

 

 

And the rest is more of the same. It's just you lying I'm trying to make excuses for the unexcusable

Carney promised he could handle trump, he's failing and doing far worse than most other jurisdictions.

Carney promised he would help deal with things by eliminating provincial trade barriers and he's done nothing. Removing the federal ones has achieved zero

Carney said he would make sure that major project started right away to help stimulate our economy and that hasn't happened. The anti pipeline legislation is still in place and businesses won't bring proposals forward while that's the case.

Meanwhile economists all over are sounding the alarm saying his spending spree will be the death of Canada.

Lloyd axworthy has gone so far as to call him a boot licker.

He's barely a few months in and he's failing already and you're out there cheering him on the same way you did with Justin Trudeau and who cares if it destroys the lives of millions of Canadians for the next two generations

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Yeah and?  You’re misrepresenting that to claim he said he would force Trump to abandon all tariffs without making any concessions in return, which he never said. 
 

False on 2 counts. He said he would end federal barriers to trade by July 1 and he did. That bill was passed on June 20. Several provinces have signed agreements with each other to remove provincial barriers and most others are actively working towards it.  But it’s not like waving a magic wand where they all just disappear overnight. 
 

The “anti-pipeline” bill you’re referring to doesn’t need to be removed because the One Canada bill passed in June with vocal support from Poilievre and conservatives gives cabinet the power to ignore any element of it. And federal/provincial governments are not just waiting and hoping for someone to out forward plans, they’re out there working industry on plans to bring forward. 
 

Canada has fared better than most countries actually. We weren’t hit with any “liberation day” tariffs, the steel, aluminum copper and auto tariffs apply to the entire world, and the only tariffs specifically applicable to Canada, the so-called fentanyl tariffs are reduced to only to non-CUSMA compliant trade which is only a small fraction of our trade (~15% according to some) and will only get smaller as a lot of that trade actually IS CUSMA compliant but exporters/importers don’t bother to fill out the paperwork. Yeah Axworthy wants him to be more scrappy but that’s easy to say from the sidelines when it’s not your skin in the game.
 

With hundreds of billions of dollars in trade at stake, Carney has to show industry he’s making a good faith effort to be the adult in the room and negotiate, even if everyone knows in the end it may be mostly pointless against such an unstable nihilist. He may only be able to make a difference at the margins but with so much at stake even small differences matter. 
 

No he didn’t. 
 

This is true, but to my earlier comments about showing good faith effort knowing success would be limited to marginal improvement at best 

 

There are no lies or “obvious incompetence”  and the nobody is playing partisan politics even PP is watching his tongue for a change.  

Any damage done to this economy is done by the malign actor, Trump.  Let’s make that clear.
 

At this early stage we still have to go through the act of negotiating in good faith as everyone else is doing UK, EU, Australia, Japan, etc.  We may shave a couple points off a tariff here or there or get TACO Trump to push the deadlines back again. But as every intelligent adult knows no matter who is PM or what they do, the end will only come when Americans start demanding an end to the tariffs and Canada has pivoted away from USA.
 

US midterms are only 15 months away,  Trump’s tariffs by executive order are technically illegal and in violation of Congress insofar as they violate trade agreements ratified by congress like USMCA.  Congress not the president has sole authority to regulate trade and impose tariffs but slime-ball Republicans control congress and House Speaker Mike Johnson has sole authority to decide the legislative agenda and refuses to out tariffs on the agenda. We will see how that works out for Republicans next year, they might have to dust off their “the election was stolen” lies when all the Americans they’ve screwed over vote them out. 

Stop with the propaganda already, Beave. 

Carney said he would fight and he rolled over in the WH without even telling the truth about our trade relationship with the US. 

He rolled back his punitive when Trump spanked him in the WH, and he ended the DST when Trump just sent out a mean tweet. 

Carney is an embarrassment who rolls over like a Golden Retriever puppy, and our energy sector is a decade behind because Trudeau scared away $130B in investments which were ready to break ground, plus all other deals that were on the table over the past ten years. What he accomplished aside from all that was a pittance.   

[CdnFox]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Stop with the propaganda already, Beave. 

Carney said he would fight and he rolled over in the WH without even telling the truth about our trade relationship with the US. 

He rolled back his punitive when Trump spanked him in the WH, and he ended the DST when Trump just sent out a mean tweet. 

Carney is an embarrassment who rolls over like a Golden Retriever puppy, and our energy sector is a decade behind because Trudeau scared away $130B in investments which were ready to break ground, plus all other deals that were on the table over the past ten years. What he accomplished aside from all that was a pittance.   

Any basically already trying to prepare people for his failure. He stopped saying that he's going to try and get a good deal, and has now said he's going to get the best deal he can. That's very different. He stopped saying he's going to stand up for Canada and he started to say he's going to try and get us stability. That is very very different.

And with trump saying that there's nothing further to discuss, the 35% tariffs are the deal it's starting to look like we won't just get tariffs, we're going to get sizable ones.

 

Trump wanted carney in. He was clear about that and he bragged about it after. And this is why. He knew he could pressure Carney into giving him a really good deal. He was already doing business with carney through his sons and he knew there was an advantage over poilievre as far as he was concerned.

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Trump wanted carney in. He was clear about that and he bragged about it after.

Libbie cultists here like to pretend that Trump is stupid, but then he bent them all to his will like they were silly putty.

Then he put Carney over a barrel and there's nothing we can do about it. It's just another 4 years of watching things deteriorate here, as if the last ten weren't bad enough.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop with the propaganda already, Beave. 

Carney said he would fight and he rolled over in the WH without even telling the truth about our trade relationship with the US. 

He rolled back his punitive when Trump spanked him in the WH, and he ended the DST when Trump just sent out a mean tweet. 

Carney is an embarrassment who rolls over like a Golden Retriever puppy, and our energy sector is a decade behind because Trudeau scared away $130B in investments which were ready to break ground, plus all other deals that were on the table over the past ten years. What he accomplished aside from all that was a pittance.   

 LMAO a Trump worshipping cultist like yourself couldn’t perceive reality if he tried. How many times has TACO Trump postponed or watered down the tariffs now? And Trump has gushed more flattering statements about carney than vice versa.  But your blind eyes don’t see any of that do they?

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

And he can't, he lied. In fact he's doing worse than many other countries. And if trump's threat is true that he's now just told us what the deal is and won't negotiate further then we got a pretty crappy deal.

And you're just fine with all of that. You don't give a shit that a generation of Canadians is about to get sold out

As I said already he didn’t lie and Canada isn’t doing worse than other countries. Like I said Trump’s Canada-specific tariffs only apply to a shrinking sliver of Canadian trade that is non-CUSMA compliant. So you’re exaggerating. 
 

The tariffs that are affecting Canada the most are the ones against steel and auto which apply to the entire world 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Trump wanted carney in. He was clear about that and he bragged about it after. And this is why. He knew he could pressure Carney into giving him a really good deal. He was already doing business with carney through his sons and he knew there was an advantage over poilievre as far as he was concerned.

LMAO ridiculous. Carney has world-class credibility who is known, liked and respected by heads of state around the world and he has the resume to prove it in both the public and private sector.
 

Meanwhile Poilievre is a Trump admiring, Trump imitating, literal nobody on the world stage, a career domestic politician with zero experience or credibility dealing with foreign leaders, zero business acumen, zero economic background, and zero record of having done anything meaningful other than childish insults of anyone who disagrees with him and calling them communist.   His proposal to dealing with Trump was that we should double down on vulnerability to USA instead in the hope to gain American approval instead of pivoting away. Basically it was the equivalent of an abused girlfriend saying she’s gonna deal with her cheatn bean man by sucking his dick so good he will never mistreat her again.  And he back-channeled through Danielle Smith that he was “in sync” with Trump policies. Even after the Trump tariffs PP tried keep the election about being anri-woke and anti-Trudeau )both near and dear to Trump) not about standing up to Trump
 

It’s obvious to anyone that Trump’wanted conservatives and he’s hyped conservatives in the past. Trump lies with every word he breathes. He only attempted to claim he wanted Carney to win AFTER  the press started mocking him for the anti-Teump backlash amd how he scored an own goal. Of course Trump is going to lie amd say he did it on purpose .

 

Any intelligent person can see it makes ZERO sense that Trump would want Carney over Poilievre. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, BeaverFever said:

As I said already he didn’t lie and Canada isn’t doing worse than other countries. Like I said Trump’s Canada-specific tariffs only apply to a shrinking sliver of Canadian trade that is non-CUSMA compliant. So you’re exaggerating. 
 

The tariffs that are affecting Canada the most are the ones against steel and auto which apply to the entire world 

Saying a lie doesn't make the LIE true. And repeating it also doesn't. We are doing worse than other countries. We have more tariffs and higher tariffs than many. We managed to get 35% coming down the pipe. Other countries got to keep their digital services tax, we didn't. We never got a framework we're just being told this is the deal. And we haven't got a single concession, most of the other countries got something.

So basically we got everything bad that anyone else got and we didn't get anything good that anyone else got. And we're getting one of the higher Tariff rates.

And he completely lied. Where's our elbows up routine? Where is that going? Where's the elbows up?

You have refused to deal with this several times but axworthy who is a qualified international negotiator who works for the liberals is calling him a boot licker. What do you have to say to that? How do you address that? I seen you ignore it about five times, but it is a truth. He is saying that and he is fully qualified to know and he is a liberal so he's not saying it because he's partisan.

He is doing terrible. And he promised he would be able to do great. But he is selling our country out without a fight.