I am Groot Posted July 1, 2025 Author Report Posted July 1, 2025 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: All those cites from far-right "Waa...I'm an oppressed white man. Why doesn't anyone love me?" propagandists.. Of course we're too smart to join the cult and swallow their bullshit. The far right? What even is the far right to people like you? Anyone who disagrees with you? Is there, in your mind, even such a thing as centreists? Or even conservatives? Or is everything not you FAR RIGHT because you feel that's the kind of pejorative that's needed for whoever doesn't agree with your social and political opinions? Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Look, the election is over and it makes no difference how many voted conservative...it was not enough. Of course it matters. As much as you would prefer it this isn't a dictatorship. The liberals got a minority and they can't actually get anything done without cooperation from other parties in the house. Do you not understand how our part of the entry system works? In addition not government is going to have to be responsible to the people including the people who didn't vote for them. They got less than 50% of the vote, they don't get carb lunch to do whatever they like. And if they drive they get kicked out of the next election. And considering this is a minority and ggers isn't around to prop them up for free anymore that could can be happening fairly quickly And i'm disappointed that i have to explain to you how our parliament works. You should have learned that in school by this point. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Of course it matters. .... No it does not LOSER. Nothing will change ...Liberals rule for the next 4+ years. LOL 2 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 25 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: No it does not LOSER. Nothing will change ...Liberals rule for the next 4+ years. LOL Obviously you know that's wrong or you wouldn't be crying and begging like that with such desperation Two years of his lucky, and the way he's going it might be less than that. Is Wednesday then grace is that right now nobody pays attention to politics much because it's summer, but if he keeps screwing up this back going into the fall with the economic disaster that is bound to show up when he does his budget late in the fall he could see his numbers dropped dramatically. The NDP and the conservatives one way or another will get new life under their wings early in the next year and if carney is still tripping up and bowing to trump as badly as he is now he could be gone at the spring budget and we could be back to an election. He may go down in history as the next joe Clark 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Obviously you know .... Yes, obviously I know you are a LOSER and cannot understand most things. It's OK, live in your simple little space 2 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 22 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yes, obviously I know you are a LOSER and cannot understand most things. LOL still filling up those diapers every time you're wrong i see So are you saying you failed social studies? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 9 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Look, the election is over and it makes no difference how many voted conservative...it was not enough. To keep on pretending is fruitless. The conservators lost and it has been analyzed (by whomever) that the conservative leader lost a 27 point lead and was not credible to many Canadians. What s done is done and will not change. No sense in beating the dead horse. My point is and was, no matter what party is in power, the government does what the public wants. Some like it, some don't, that is the division of political beliefs. Asking me what I like or don't makes no difference and only leads to arguing , dismissiveness and name calling (as has e proven so many i on this forum). Point is Canadians got what they wanted...when they voted conservatives and threw them out or liberal and when they get thrown out. Not my point at all....almost half of Canadians did vote for conservatives and most of them do think Canada is broken....and all of that is laid at the feet of Justin liberal party,most of which are still here today....thats my point....many things in Canada are broken....you being dishonest or ignoring the problem by not admitting to that... I think everyone in Canada knows the conservatives lost the election, hard not to with so many liberals rubbing it in our noses everyday...but that was never the point...the point is during Justins reign of terror his government broke or mishandled a lot of stuff...So much so it gave Carney an entire campaign to run on... No it does not do you think Canadian wanted Justins jokers running the country,near the end even justin hated himself...and most Canadians did not agree in that direction he was shoving our country, but they were terrified of what PP was going to , eat small children in streets, endorse witch craft,banishing all social programs...etc... I was asking you to justify your position, but i get itr it is easy to deflect on the questions and repeat the same old liberal line you lost we won...suck it up... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 16 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: How do I or anyone else defend an innate feeling.... Is it because of the jersey I've worn since birth, is it the freedom I've lived in my entire life, is it because of my pride in how we conduct ourselves, is it because of our openness and acceptance, etc, etc...??? I don't know the definitive answer but I do know the majority probably have pride in being a Canadian....all of the non-debatable issues this country has considered. That has nothing to do with hockey....albeit great to have that pride when it's happening! Not having served I can't fully appreciate your perspective, but understand it and am very much appreciative....honestly! I see or read about the same sh*t everyone else does, but I also have and continue to see good out there in our young to adults volunteering in their communities. Do I see the protests or the activism we see in other countries, no but that's who we are. Our military is another subject.... is it a generational thing, a complacency thing, a lack of recruiting thing, a maybe a better career over there thing, and so on....? It's how life has gone but it doesn't take away from engagement and the pride people have in their community and country. You're spot on that we've sat back and watched the country change for not the better, as have most countries. We've been too complacent in the world and with mixed up priorities for too long, but regardless of the reason there is more national pride right now and being optimistic, I think it's going to be around a long time. We have a sh*t ton of issues that need to be dealt with in this country but it is what it is. Not going to take away from being proud of where you're from and trying to make it better.... I think it is great that you and others Canadians feel that way....i truly do, for me there has been to much bad blood pass, and i've been to many funerals to count, because our nation forgot or just neglected soldiers begging for help...I think Justin said it best "you are asking for more than we can give right now" just before he doubled the national debt....The way we have treated our vets is disgusting... Me and my generation are mostly retired now, and i bring attention on this forum and others i hopes it sparks something and our military gets some kind of attention it needs. as my son and daughters have taken up the torch. If not for them, i would not care, like the majority of Canadians... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonlight Graham Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 On 6/30/2025 at 2:34 PM, Michael Hardner said: Same tired conspiracy horsesh1t. ....This made up controversy is so old, it's boring... Why can't Johnny read? Happy Canada Day Michael. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) On 6/30/2025 at 2:34 PM, Michael Hardner said: Same tired conspiracy horsesh1t. ...This made up controversy is so old, it's boring... Why can't Johnny read? Happy Canada Day Michael. (PS I confirmed that below is a real post from Waterloo DSB from today). Edited July 2, 2025 by Moonlight Graham 2 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Venandi Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 11 hours ago, Army Guy said: I think everyone in Canada knows the conservatives lost the election, hard not to with so many liberals rubbing it in our noses everyday...but that was never the point...the point is during Justins reign of terror his government broke or mishandled a lot of stuff... Yup... And the gleeful nose rubbing effort (with all its machinations) is what fuels the predictable backlash which goes further than it ever could have without the "nose job." From what I've seen of the world, amplitude of the seesaw is directly proportional to polarization fuelled by ridicule. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 15 hours ago, Army Guy said: Not my point at all....almost half of Canadians did vote for conservatives and most of them do think Canada is broken....and all of that is laid at the feet of Justin liberal party,most of which are still here today....thats my point....many things in Canada are broken....you being dishonest or ignoring the problem by not admitting to that... I think everyone in Canada knows the conservatives lost the election, hard not to with so many liberals rubbing it in our noses everyday...but that was never the point...the point is during Justins reign of terror his government broke or mishandled a lot of stuff...So much so it gave Carney an entire campaign to run on... No it does not do you think Canadian wanted Justins jokers running the country,near the end even justin hated himself...and most Canadians did not agree in that direction he was shoving our country, but they were terrified of what PP was going to , eat small children in streets, endorse witch craft,banishing all social programs...etc... I was asking you to justify your position, but i get itr it is easy to deflect on the questions and repeat the same old liberal line you lost we won...suck it up... As I have been saying, invoking Justin Trudeau is pointless. He stepped down, he did not run, he is gone. If all the conservatives have is bashing a guy that is long gone only tells me they have no plan forward. Correct, they do not want Trudeaus jokers but, in light of the issue with the US President, Carny had to keep some around that had already fought with him. Their experience was important. Even Trudeau knew that when he had Mulroney help him with the the USMCA. The Canadian public was afraid of PP and his lack of message as opposed to what was to be done. PP lived in the past, dragged up the past constantly and was to late to realize the future was not Trudeau. His party executive was too late to pivot and the people of Canada were fed up with PP's same old same old. As I said "My point is and was, no matter what party is in power, the government does what the public wants. Some like it, some don't, that is the division of political beliefs." 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Barquentine Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 21 hours ago, I am Groot said: Or even conservatives? As I've said before. I voted Conservative in the last provincial election. I have no problem with centrist, sensible politicians of any party. I don't give credence to partisan propaganda. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: Happy Canada Day Michael. (PS I confirmed that below is a real post from Waterloo DSB from today). That's life under the LPOC. Every day is just a little better than the next one. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Army Guy Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: As I have been saying, invoking Justin Trudeau is pointless. He stepped down, he did not run, he is gone. If all the conservatives have is bashing a guy that is long gone only tells me they have no plan forward. Correct, they do not want Trudeaus jokers but, in light of the issue with the US President, Carny had to keep some around that had already fought with him. Their experience was important. Even Trudeau knew that when he had Mulroney help him with the the USMCA. The Canadian public was afraid of PP and his lack of message as opposed to what was to be done. PP lived in the past, dragged up the past constantly and was to late to realize the future was not Trudeau. His party executive was too late to pivot and the people of Canada were fed up with PP's same old same old. As I said "My point is and was, no matter what party is in power, the government does what the public wants. Some like it, some don't, that is the division of political beliefs." Justins leaving office does not just magically make all the problems he created disappear...they still need to be addressed Identifying who created them is important,i'm sure Carney is not going to take credit for all that mess,but he will need to clean it up.... It was not that carney wanted to keep them around, "Canadians" voted them back in....like some kind of sadistic ritual, we want more pain and suffering... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 Just now, Army Guy said: Justins leaving office does not just magically make all the problems he created disappear...they still need to be addressed Identifying who created them is important,i'm sure Carney is not going to take credit for all that mess,but he will need to clean it up.... It was not that carney wanted to keep them around, "Canadians" voted them back in....like some kind of sadistic ritual, we want more pain and suffering... No it does not. The problems need to be corrected if they are in fact problems and not just opposition opinions. Remember that the only legislation in session was voted on and all conservatives voted for it. Why should Carney take credit for issues for previous leaders? O'Foole did not take credit for Harper faults but fell on his sword when he failed. Scheer came in with new ideas and fell on his sword when he failed.. PP came in with new ideas but stayed on when he failed the first time and is still here after failing the second time. So why did Canadians vote them back in??? What was wrong with the competition??? Thing is, conservatives seem to spend an inordinate amount of time on the long gone Trudeau yet they do not spend any time on their failed leaders or helping mould the future. Some of your cohorts cry pain and suffering but the guy has not been elected for 100 days yet and has the biggest economic trade crisis in history on his lap. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Venandi Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Army Guy said: "Canadians" voted them back in....like some kind of sadistic ritual, we want more pain and suffering... That's how I see it too, absolutely breathtaking. On a daily basis I read about gang violence and gun crime in places like Toronto. To think that people are willing to spend (literally) hundreds of millions of dollars trying to eradicate a problem most of them admit doesn't (really) exist just bogles the mind. When asked, the answer I usually get is: "well, we have to do something." It's not just the ill-informed nature of these conversations either, it's the attitude. They seem to think that what Ukraine really needs and really wants is semi-automatic rifles with 5 round magazines. People should take a moment and consider how they would explain things like this to village elders (virtually anywhere) whilst maintaining a straight face. Edited July 2, 2025 by Venandi 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 13 minutes ago, Venandi said: That's how I see it too, absolutely breathtaking. On a daily basis I read about gang violence and gun crime in places like Toronto. To think that people are willing to spend (literally) hundreds of millions of dollars trying to eradicate a problem most of them admit doesn't (really) exist just bogles the mind. When asked, the answer I usually get is: "well, we have to do something." It's not just the ill-informed nature of these conversations either, it's the attitude. They seem to think that what Ukraine really needs and really wants is semi-automatic rifles with 5 round magazines. People should take a moment and consider how they would explain things like this to village elders with real problems that need real help and real solutions. I read your piece twice and am not sure what you are tying to convey or who you are trying to blame. Gang violence and gun crimes are not a federal jurisdiction. Local and in cases where there are provincial police are the ones that have to do something about that. Thing is, police, of most jurisdictions, are there to generate revenue as opposed to actual crime reduction. Speed traps, speed cameras or any driving violations generate money as opposed to wasting it fighting crime and putting bad guys away. The pressure is from the municipalities for cash flow, yet we know gang and gun crimes are happening . I also do not know what Ukraine and semi automatic rifles with 5 round magazines fi in your piece. What would you like to have explained? To what elders? 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: As I have been saying, invoking Justin Trudeau is pointless. He stepped down, he did not run, he is gone. Are you STILL CRYING over the fact he was the most hated prime minister in history? Kid i have bad news, it's only going to be about 2 months until people start comparing carney to him I"m already hearing the first murmurs. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 31 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Are you STILL CRYING over the fact he was the most hated prime minister in history? Kid i have bad news.. Don't bother me at all. He is as memorable as the snow we had last day of February5 days ago. It melted and is gone. LOL You try so hard and constant FAIL...like your party did. LOL Kid i have bad news.. you are still a LOSER!!!! and that we will not forget Ha Ha Ha 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
cougar Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 (edited) 17 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: Happy Canada Day Michael. (PS I confirmed that below is a real post from Waterloo DSB from today). To me all this is like I was sold a company with a lot of undisclosed liabilities and once the transaction went through, I was told to pick up the tab and start paying! I never did anything to any F.N's and neither did my ancestors (living on another continent). My responsibilities and accountability for the wrongs done in the past are ZERO! I should be paying ZERO to FN's from my taxes; the land under my feet is either mine, or it was sold to me by a thief. If the second is true, I will expect the Government of Canada to start paying me compensation for the cheating and lying they did to me! Edited July 2, 2025 by cougar 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 On 7/1/2025 at 1:43 PM, CdnFox said: they don't get carb lunch to do whatever they like. Carb lunch? Quote
Barquentine Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 On 7/1/2025 at 1:53 PM, ExFlyer said: Liberals rule for the next 4+ years Hopefully, but it's not a given. They have a year for sure, then after that it's up to the polls. The Cons will pounce when they see a lead and can get the Bloc to join them. (Not that a lead meant anything last time.) 1 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 28 minutes ago, cougar said: To me all this is like I was sold a company with a lot of undisclosed liabilities and once the transaction went through, I was told to pick up the tab and start paying! I never did anything to any F.N's and neither did my ancestors (living on another continent). My responsibilities and accountability for the wrongs done in the past are ZERO! I should be paying ZERO to FN's from my taxes; the land under my feet is either mine, or it was sold to me by a thief. If the second is true, I will expect the Government of Canada to start paying me compensation for the cheating and lying they did to me! There's a lot of Crown land. It's not just about private properties. You do also benefit from the thriving society built on the land you don't own plus Crown land. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
WestCanMan Posted July 2, 2025 Report Posted July 2, 2025 On 6/30/2025 at 1:18 PM, LinkSoul60 said: Canadian's didn't jump on the patriotism bandwagon because of Trump's tariffs BS. The whole left4rd screed for the past ten years has been "Canada is racist, Canada sucks, white people suck, Christians suck, islam is the religion of peace, only white people have ever owned slaves, Canadians committed genocide against first nations people", etc. Then you guys went and forced young people to take the jab while you hated on the unvaxed. There wasn't a patriotic bone in your hateful little body until Trump said 51st state, and then suddenly you were all about the Maple Leaf. It took Trump hating Canada to make you love it. He just did a reverse-psych job on you, and even got you Left4rds to go from crying "1.1% of the GDP to the military is too much 😭" to "we need to spend 5% of the GDP on our military!!!!" Trump plays you like a Strad, missing link. If you want, I can ask him what he wants you to do next, just so that you can be ahead of the trend. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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