ExFlyer Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Yeah. WE were talking about how your NDP friend rigged the bid to make sure China got it. And you come back with Harper sold oil companies to china for some reason. I thought you said Harper sold this. Now you're just saying the government approved a sale? I thought you were suggesting Harper was involved, like going to China with a briefcase full of leases and eagerly offering them around. But no, it's just a routine approval of a small oil company that is sold to a foreign company. Yeah, the Chinese were buying Canadian oil companies. You know why? Because the legislative changes the Liberals and NDP put in place and their deep hostility to oil and gas development were making it extremely difficult for companies to get investors interested in them or to get loans to expand, and it was either sell or close down. What has this got to do with the Liberals funding the NDP purchase of Chinese ships? Just how deep in China's pocket is Eby and the BC NDP? How much influence do they have with the federal Liberals? Evidently a LOT. And where is that foreign agents law? You mean the trans mountain one to the coast, don't you? Try to keep focused. And to repeat, because apparently you have a lot of trouble following discussions, you plan for tomorrow's production, not what you're putting out today. Also, you plan for what might happen with our neighbors. Ie, it would sure be nice to be able to divert a lot more of our oil to the coast to send to Japan if the Americans refuse to pay world prices. Uhh, sure bud. Whatever. I notice that a lot of people, when they're losing arguments and can't think of anything else to put out there, start accusing the other person of being upset or emotional or something. It's almost an internet cliche. But if that makes you feel all manly, go for it. Frack...you seem to have as much, maybe even more, reading comprehension as confux and user LOL You are aware Harper was the government??? LOL The Chinese bought the oil businesses because Harper had a garage sale. He was sucking p to China. LOL. Liberals and NDP had nothing to do with it. Harper was in power for a long tome before he sold us out. The Liberals took over, paid for and finished the construction of the pipeline out west. What ships?? You mean the BC ferries that no Canadian company even asked for the request for proposals and would not bid on??? You have real problems with facts, especially when they don't coincide with your BS LOL Frack, you get dumber with every post just like user and confux 56 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Says the guy blathering The time you occupy my mind is small and usually spent laughing at you. 😛 I know you love to daydream about me thinking about you, you bring it up all the time but when I'm not reading and laughing at one of your posts i'm not thinking about you at all Sorry kiddo You spend about 80 to 90% of your posts here making nonsense posts to me that contain no point other than for you screaming for attention and crying for help. I talk to everyone This is why nobody respects you and many respect me. Your post is a joke and you're the punchline. Ha HA Ha...you have nothing to offer and cannot make any sense so you try to attack... and such a feeble attack too LOL You have nothing, ZERO, but then again, we cannot expect much from you the LOSER LOL If only your were more of a challenge. You just cannot grasp that I am baiting you and pull the lure out of your mouth post after post after post but you still keep biting thinking you will get it LOL Edited July 5, 2025 by ExFlyer 2 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
I am Groot Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You are aware Harper was the government??? LOL The Chinese bought the oil businesses because Harper had a garage sale. He was sucking p to China. LOL. Liberals and NDP had nothing to do with it. Harper was in power for a long tome before he sold us out. Why do you bother sputtering along with nonsense like this? Harper didn't have a sale. Harper didn't do a bloody thing, you lefty loon. Cabinet had to approve sales of companies to foreign companies. That's it. That's all. Chretien approved of many before him. As old as you are, you don't seem to remember much. Harper came into power wanting nothing to do with China. The Liberals, NDP and BQ went bananas, screeching about how we couldn't alienate a huge potential customer and how it was desperately important that we go to China and try to get our businesses through the door. Harper ignored them, despite the united media braying that Canada was missing a glorious opportunity. Then, after the attempted coup by the Lib/dem/bq alliance of socialists and the great recession hit he agreed to at least talk with China. But he didn't offer up anything for them. And he didn't sell his ass to them like Chretien had done before him. The anti-pipeline, anti-development laws were put in place by Chretien. Harper pruned some back, but in his usual timid way, and the Chretien supreme court kept putting up roadblocks. 47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: The Liberals took over, paid for and finished the construction of the pipeline out west. Trudeau greatly increased the legislative roadblocks to building pipelines, developing oil and gas, and other natural resources. The requirements, along with the heavier demands for native bribery due to Trudeau adopting the UNDRIP, and the fanatic opposition from BC meant that the private sector builders were going to walk away from the pipeline. Trudeau had already axed several before that, so for PR purposes, they bought the pipeline. Or maybe it wasn't just for PR purposes, because suddenly the costs exploded. I suspect that was due to jobs going to Liberal backers who pocketed huge profits and probably kicked some back to Trudeau under the table. 47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: What ships?? You mean the BC ferries that no Canadian company even asked for the request for proposals and would not bid on??? Nobody is going to bid on an open contract that allows China to bid and goes by the lowest bidder because no one in North America could match their prices. 47 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: If only your were more of a challenge. You just cannot grasp that I am baiting you and pull the lure out of your mouth post after post after post but you still keep biting thinking you will get it LOL I grasp that you're a guy with no life and no friends who acts like a bloody arsehole on here and then struts around like that's an accomplishment. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Aristides Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: Everyone in the east is fine with pipelines except Kabekers, who refuse to allow the sacred french soil of ancient Kabek to be polluted by evil anglo industry. Quebec is always a convenient excuse. We'll see how fine everyone in the east is if Quebec gets onside. There will have to be a business case for any pipeline or no one will want to build it. There is probably more case for a gas pipeline and LNG plant than for a bitumen line. Edited July 5, 2025 by Aristides Quote
CdnFox Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Frack...you seem to have as much, maybe even more, reading comprehension as confux and user LOL You are aware Harper was the government??? LOL The Chinese bought the oil businesses because Harper had a garage sale. He was sucking p to China. LOL. Liberals and NDP had nothing to do with it. Harper was in power for a long tome before he sold us out. The Liberals took over, paid for and finished the construction of the pipeline out west. What ships?? You mean the BC ferries that no Canadian company even asked for the request for proposals and would not bid on??? You have real problems with facts, especially when they don't coincide with your BS LOL Frack, you get dumber with every post just like user and confux Ha HA Ha...you have nothing to offer and cannot make any sense so you try to attack... and such a feeble attack too LOL You have nothing, ZERO, but then again, we cannot expect much from you the LOSER LOL If only your were more of a challenge. You just cannot grasp that I am baiting you and pull the lure out of your mouth post after post after post but you still keep biting thinking you will get it LOL Well I see that groot already pointed out why you're wrong and what she said was stupid. And the very fact that you have to beg and plead and whine and cry to desperately try and get me to pay attention to you also highlights your emotional instability. Kid. I'm not your father. I don't know who your father is your mother can't tell you then I'm afraid you're out of luck. But begging and whining for my attention while accusing me and others of your own failings is weird. Maybe you could get into one of those big brother programs or something? You're clearly need a little help. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 47 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well I see that gr You're clearly need a little help. I see that you are far to challenged to understand the facts but i am not surprised at all. You have always been mentally challenged LOL The one that needs professional help is you...I suspect that being. LOSER is affecting everything you try to do and say LOL You know you are being trolled and yet you still do not get it and keep biting at the lure...and failing to grasp it... a sure sign of a monumental LOSER LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Army Guy Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 On 7/4/2025 at 4:04 PM, ExFlyer said: There is NO pipeline plan in the works. If Alberta wants it so bad...let them initiate it but wait...that will cost Alberta money LOL No one dislikes Alberta...what is disliked is Smith making BS statements. She is Trumpified and we are surprised she has not dyed her hair Orange LOL Not according to smith, and the media...The first pipeline to be pout through will be to churchill falls, as Manitoba wants to be a team player and gets a port out of the deal. Going through BC makes more sense, just due to the distance...but having a northern port will be an asset to the nation... No it is oil and gas they dislike, they love the money it generates,the jobs, the infrastructure...besides BC is not in charge of anything, it is the native community that has to buy in...thats who runs BC...eby is just a white figure head... She wants to promote oil and gas it is what drives our dead economy...and feeds most of her province...and many others... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 (edited) On 7/4/2025 at 12:55 PM, TreeBeard said: He chose the shipbuilding contract winning bid? Did you check his donors list? It’s all online. What did you find? Have you seen the CSIS report, on foreign interference which was reported on by globe and mail... Quote CSIS to provide the investigation report to “prove” that the result of the 2022 Vancouver municipal election was “meddled” by the Chinese Communist Party. Quote Since Global News broke a story regarding alleged foreign interference networks involving MP Han Dong and Ontario MPP Vincent Ke, Ding has been attacking Canadian journalists and independent media by labeling them as “racist,” “unethical,” and/or “biased.” Quote but Premier David Eby’s friend and advisor Guo Ding (aka David Ding) is already trying to influence provincial politics on the Chinese social media platform, WeChat. https://thebreaker.news/opinion/david-eby-david-ding/ Edited July 5, 2025 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 11 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Not according to smith, and the media...The first pipeline to be pout through will be to churchill falls, as Manitoba wants to be a team player and gets a port out of the deal. Going through BC makes more sense, just due to the distance...but having a northern port will be an asset to the nation... No it is oil and gas they dislike, they love the money it generates,the jobs, the infrastructure...besides BC is not in charge of anything, it is the native community that has to buy in...thats who runs BC...eby is just a white figure head... She wants to promote oil and gas it is what drives our dead economy...and feeds most of her province...and many others... The Port of Churchill pipeline is still only a wet dream. No proposals yet let alone plans. The Port of Churchill in Manitoba has an existing oil-handling system and has been considered for oil exports, it is not currently a major oil port. The port primarily handles grain, other commodities, and general cargo. A proposed upgrade to the oil system, which would have allowed for the export of light-sweet crude, was scrapped in 2014. NOTE: the port services commodities needed by the town or Churchill and Kivalliq region of Nunavut. It is not a distribution point. Oil-Handling System: The Port of Churchill does have an oil-handling system, which was previously owned and operated by OmniTRAX. Past Proposals: In 2013, OmniTRAX proposed a $2 million upgrade to the system to facilitate the export of 330,000 barrels of light-sweet crude according to Wikipedia. NOTE: Alberta oil is not light-sweet crude. Scrapped Plan: However, the plan to export oil through Churchill was abandoned by 2014. For sure Manitoba want something but lets be real. Hudsons Bay in not navigable for 9 months of the year. And do you or anyone really think oil tankers along Hudson Bay shores and between Labrador and Baffin Island can be used regularly? While in SAR, I have flown over Hudsons Bay summer and winter. It is not hospitable. I had the pleasure (or displeasure) of having spent over a month in Churchill. The railway was down for over 2 years because of the muskeg etc that kept the track failing so the only way they got stuff in was by air. It is constantly being repaired because of the freeze, thaw, flooding etc. If, a pipeline were to be built as Smith wants, it would be decades away. Right now, it is a "pipe dream" Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 39 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I see that you are far to challenged to understand the facts but i am not surprised at all. Which is what you always say when you've lost the argument but can't actually cope with it. You have no facts, you just cry and pound your feet and declare that someone else is wrong while posting silly little pictures. Oh dear. It would seem I've emotionally damaged you yet again. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted July 5, 2025 Report Posted July 5, 2025 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: You have no facts, you just cry and pound your feet and declare that someone else is wrong while posting silly little pictures. What no cute Emojis this time? Your posts are usually full of them when you're puffing yourself up. Quote
August1991 Posted July 6, 2025 Author Report Posted July 6, 2025 On 6/29/2025 at 3:08 PM, Army Guy said: Sure they could ,but in the next Forests fire,earthquake, flood, when they are evacuating people one of the questions is going to be how many war bonds have to purchased....sorry sir you can't go, these services are only for paying members...we do however have some free bicycles over there you and your family can peddle our... AG: Better helicopters, agreed. But do we need 5 zillion helicopters? Quote
August1991 Posted July 6, 2025 Author Report Posted July 6, 2025 On 6/29/2025 at 3:15 PM, Army Guy said: Then stop electing wingnuts that sign onto these defensive agreements...protest to leave NATO and shut down our military...either way Canadians need to grow a pair and decide what direction we want to go in....instead of killing it slowly... Like you ever had a choice of where your tax dollars go.... Here, I strongly disagree. ===== We live in the post 1990s world. The Soviet Union no longer exists. Communism is no longer an ideological threat - except in western universities, parts of South America and American cities. Quote
Army Guy Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: The Port of Churchill pipeline is still only a wet dream. No proposals yet let alone plans. The Port of Churchill in Manitoba has an existing oil-handling system and has been considered for oil exports, it is not currently a major oil port. The port primarily handles grain, other commodities, and general cargo. A proposed upgrade to the oil system, which would have allowed for the export of light-sweet crude, was scrapped in 2014. NOTE: the port services commodities needed by the town or Churchill and Kivalliq region of Nunavut. It is not a distribution point. Oil-Handling System: The Port of Churchill does have an oil-handling system, which was previously owned and operated by OmniTRAX. Past Proposals: In 2013, OmniTRAX proposed a $2 million upgrade to the system to facilitate the export of 330,000 barrels of light-sweet crude according to Wikipedia. NOTE: Alberta oil is not light-sweet crude. Scrapped Plan: However, the plan to export oil through Churchill was abandoned by 2014. For sure Manitoba want something but lets be real. Hudsons Bay in not navigable for 9 months of the year. And do you or anyone really think oil tankers along Hudson Bay shores and between Labrador and Baffin Island can be used regularly? While in SAR, I have flown over Hudsons Bay summer and winter. It is not hospitable. I had the pleasure (or displeasure) of having spent over a month in Churchill. The railway was down for over 2 years because of the muskeg etc that kept the track failing so the only way they got stuff in was by air. It is constantly being repaired because of the freeze, thaw, flooding etc. If, a pipeline were to be built as Smith wants, it would be decades away. Right now, it is a "pipe dream" Sure it is the trans canada rail line was once a wet dream...and yet here we are....You make it sound like this is my dream, this is what the Manitoban premier and smith have been talking about, to carney about,he wanted projects this is one of them...So where talks are nobody is sure, of anything right now...certainly not you and me... Alberta and sask produce all grades of oil....including light crude...and i'm sure this facility could be expanded or upgrade to handle anything . Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 1 hour ago, August1991 said: Here, I strongly disagree. ===== We live in the post 1990s world. The Soviet Union no longer exists. Communism is no longer an ideological threat - except in western universities, parts of South America and American cities. Do you even own a TV....Mother Russia is currently invading Ukraine...Europe is current preparing for war with Russia in 5 years times,some nations have start conscription....most of NATO has started to invest in their militaries heavily...not sure what other red flags you need...Your world is gone....and a new more violent one is taking it's place....China has already told the US it is going to take Taiwan in 5 years time...China has the largest navy on the planet right now....surpassing the US navy.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 1 hour ago, August1991 said: AG: Better helicopters, agreed. But do we need 5 zillion helicopters? Don't worry about it August, they will have plenty of bikes there for you and your family...just remember stop drop and roll you'll be fine...and for the flood season buy a boat.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: What no cute Emojis this time? Your posts are usually full of them when you're puffing yourself up. Awww muffin Did you feel left out? Like i wasn't giving you the attention you need? Poor thing. Why are all of you on the left so needy? Now go and change your diaper and off to bed 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 9 hours ago, Army Guy said: Sure it is the trans canada rail line was once a wet dream...and yet here we are....You make it sound like this is my dream, this is what the Manitoban premier and smith have been talking about, to carney about,he wanted projects this is one of them...So where talks are nobody is sure, of anything right now...certainly not you and me... Alberta and sask produce all grades of oil....including light crude...and i'm sure this facility could be expanded or upgrade to handle anything . Please tell me you are not comparing a project from 1875 to 1885 with today?? In that time there was not even an Alberta or Saskatchewan. I never made it sound like it was your idea and if you took it that way, I apologize. OK, they extract light oil. Sorry. Manitoba's premier only said OK, if you want to do that, I accept. It was no involvement by his province, only use of Manitoba land. I think you miss my point about how viable a port in Hudsons Bay is when it is in ice most of the year and the proximity to land to actually get to the sea. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
I am Groot Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 22 hours ago, Aristides said: Quebec is always a convenient excuse. We'll see how fine everyone in the east is if Quebec gets onside. There will have to be a business case for any pipeline or no one will want to build it. There is probably more case for a gas pipeline and LNG plant than for a bitumen line. AFAIK everyone in the East has already agreed to pipelines, other than Kaybek Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Aristides Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 50 minutes ago, I am Groot said: AFAIK everyone in the East has already agreed to pipelines, other than Kaybek https://www.thecanadianpressnews.ca/quebec/norwegian-company-has-plans-for-lng-export-project-in-quebec/article_f89104f6-8708-5f31-bd18-e02bd55892e0.html As I said, there is more of a case for a gas pipeline and LNG plant than a bitumen line. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 1 hour ago, Aristides said: https://www.thecanadianpressnews.ca/quebec/norwegian-company-has-plans-for-lng-export-project-in-quebec/article_f89104f6-8708-5f31-bd18-e02bd55892e0.html As I said, there is more of a case for a gas pipeline and LNG plant than a bitumen line. Put them all in and then we don't have to worry about it. On some electrical lines while you're at it That was the whole premise of a cross Canada Energy Corridor. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
TreeBeard Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 22 hours ago, Army Guy said: Have you seen the CSIS report, on foreign interference which was reported on by globe and mail... It mentioned Eby was compromised and told BC Ferries to give the contract to a Chinese shipbuilder? 1 Quote
Legato Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 On 6/29/2025 at 5:51 PM, eyeball said: It's how we funded our military in the past. Yes.....just ask the Brits how that worked out.... In March 2015, the UK government repaid its final £1.9 billion of World War I debt, which had been outstanding since the war's conclusion in 1918. The WWII debt in 2006. Quote
Army Guy Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 8 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Please tell me you are not comparing a project from 1875 to 1885 with today?? In that time there was not even an Alberta or Saskatchewan. I never made it sound like it was your idea and if you took it that way, I apologize. OK, they extract light oil. Sorry. Manitoba's premier only said OK, if you want to do that, I accept. It was no involvement by his province, only use of Manitoba land. I think you miss my point about how viable a port in Hudsons Bay is when it is in ice most of the year and the proximity to land to actually get to the sea. Just saying if there is a will we as a nation can accomplish anything, like vimy ridge, Juno beach, telephone communications, it is easy to say it can't be done,things never get done that way... Manitoba is and wants to expand on that port ,climate change may or may not change that environment where the port can only be used a few months...but expanding the port will expand that city, bring more resources to it...and it gives our nation another port in which to export our products, not just oil and gas, but anything... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted July 6, 2025 Report Posted July 6, 2025 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Just saying if there is a will we as a nation can accomplish anything, like vimy ridge, Juno beach, telephone communications, it is easy to say it can't be done,things never get done that way... Well in that case just defend Canada with what we've got. I mean if we could accomplish anything like maybe ridge, Juno Beach, telephone communications then you should be able to defend Canada with the number of people that are in the military and the gear on hand. It's easy to say it can't be done, things never get done that way. Or you can be real. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted July 7, 2025 Report Posted July 7, 2025 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: Well in that case just defend Canada with what we've got. I mean if we could accomplish anything like maybe ridge, Juno Beach, telephone communications then you should be able to defend Canada with the number of people that are in the military and the gear on hand. It's easy to say it can't be done, things never get done that way. Or you can be real. Sure, it is much easier for Canadians to bury their sons and daughters than pay for them to have modern equipment...Not sure why that bothers you so much that finally we are taking our military seriously, i mean the men and women take defending this nation very seriously......I really don't understand your frustration with the idea of finally kitting our our military... The fact we have been doing the exact thing you suggest for over 40 years is really telling for me anyways...Members in the military have asked for generations support us properly or shut er down...this death by a thousand cuts is prolong torture... Being elected to office does not mean you now live the life of riley, get cater to at every turn....it means doing what is best for the country, be it popular or unpopular...they have the responsibility to ensure we regular Canadians are protected...not that hard of a task.... now after 40 years of neglect it is time to fix it...after 40 years it is going to have a huge cost behind that... not that he is an expert at anything, but he and many others seem to think this is possible. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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