eyeball Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 59 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Where do you get these ideas....Taxes, war bonds were a thing in time of war....along with many other things like rationing, of almost everything....if we can't somehow convince Canadians to pay for our military with taxes which they have NO control off...., just how much do you think bonds are going raise... It'll never be enough which means you warhacks will be looking for room at the same teat everyone else is. Get in line. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 57 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Who's going to let Canada build a nuclear weapon? Just don't tell anyone until we have it we only need one FFS. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: ...there are way to many in the world right now... So you reckon it's better to scrap our way of life and squander our resources and finances on the arsenal of conventional weapons it takes to deter a nuclear attack? What part of better dead than red didn't you get or did you just lose faith? 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: ..having one does not guarantee your safety...look at Israel, it has been attacked many times by non nuclear nations... Conventionally and disastrously in the end for anyone who did. Note how much Israel relies on handouts from taxpayers in the west to fund it's military. Did I say get in line? 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: MAD does not always work,If iran was to get a bomb do you think they would not use it.... Nuke the stupid fùckers then. The world can't afford to waste anymore goddamn time on dictators and their sponsors. We have far more serious issues to deal with. Meanwhile the only military threat to Canada is from the south in which case you've pretty much made it clear you'd capitulate. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 2 hours ago, eyeball said: So it's no better and likely worse than any other worthless fricking social program, just like I said. It's radically different. This should not be hard to understand. Social programs are paid for by the government. The government gets its money from the people whether they want to spend it or not. Charities however are a voluntary donation. You can decide whether or not you want to support it Nobody has ever claimed you were intelligent, but there are times when I just cannot believe you are this stupid. You didn't know the government paid for bonds, you couldn't figure out that a voluntary donation to a charity is not the same thing as forcible taxation to social programs. I guess it's the weekend and you do seem the type to be prone to drinking. Or sniffing glue, or huffing or whatever your particular pleasure is I don't know. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 8 hours ago, CdnFox said: The government gets its money from the people whether they want to spend it or not. Sure, go tell it to Google, Meta and Amazon. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Moonlight Graham Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 (edited) On 6/28/2025 at 11:58 PM, August1991 said: I do not want to give 5% of my efforts/savings to the military. My taxes? Please cut by 5%. ===== We Canadians get along. Only because we've let the US do most of our dirty work for us. Do we get along with the USA right now? With the US no longer a reliable ally including to defend us, steps need to be taken to increase our ability to stand on our own 2 feet. Edited June 30, 2025 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 16 hours ago, User said: Agree or disagree with this military funding, the 5% is of Canadian GDP and has no direct correlation to you having to give anything, let alone 5% of your efforts/savings. Sigh. Yeah fret not, this is mostly just paid for by increasing to the debt/deficit. No need to pay for anything! It's the Liberal Way. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
LinkSoul60 Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 With my kids no longer in school I'd like to get out of paying the school tax portion until my grandchildren are fully into the education system. I don't use the library either so don't want to pay that tax line. It doesn't work that way... Lot's of comments saying the military funding is a bad idea, but not one suggesting what it looks like if we had said 'no thanks' and chose to go alone in the world. Does anyone honestly believe that would have been the best route for Canada to take.... militarily or economically. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 16 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Lot's of comments saying the military funding is a bad idea, but not one suggesting what it looks like if we had said 'no thanks' and chose to go alone in the world. But we really did. Canada's army is 1/10th of what it would have to be to protect all of the real estate and natural resources we have. If not for the US, Canada would be a province of China, Russia, Iran, or some other lovely bunch. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
eyeball Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 49 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Does anyone honestly believe that would have been the best route for Canada to take.... militarily or economically. Yes, especially economically if all we need is a deterrent to make people think carefully before invading us. Like one big nuclear bomb salted with cobalt. Cheap compared to conventional militarization. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 On 6/28/2025 at 11:58 PM, August1991 said: I do not want to give 5% of my efforts/savings to the military. My taxes? Please cut by 5%. ===== We Canadians get along. And who would shovel the snow in downtown Toronto? Who would do the sandbagging every year in Winnipeg area? Who would help with flooding in Quebec every year? Who would evacuate all the indigenous villages every fire season? Who would do the 9000 SAR actions every year? Who wild do the almost 2000 medical evacuations the RCAF does every year? Who would do the aid to civil powers every year? Yeah, you get a lot more out to of the military than watching a parade every Canada Day. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: And who would shovel the snow in downtown Toronto? Who would do the sandbagging every year in Winnipeg area? Who would help with flooding in Quebec every year? Who would evacuate all the indigenous villages every fire season? Who would do the 9000 SAR actions every year? Who wild do the almost 2000 medical evacuations the RCAF does every year? Who would do the aid to civil powers every year? A dedicated federal works dept that can also form the basis for a civilian insurgency if we're invaded. We need to be more be like Switzerland. Besides which there's only one direction and invasion will every come from. The threat of a filthy dirty nuclear bomb should suffice to keep it at bay. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 Just now, eyeball said: A dedicated federal works dept that can also form the basis for a civilian insurgency if we're invaded. We need to be more be like Switzerland. Besides which there's only one direction and invasion will every come from. The threat of a filthy dirty nuclear bomb should suffice to keep it at bay. Never said anything about being invaded or nuclear bombs. Only mentioned a few things the Military does regularly to support and helps Canadians on home soil. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
LinkSoul60 Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 51 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: But we really did. Canada's army is 1/10th of what it would have to be to protect all of the real estate and natural resources we have. If not for the US, Canada would be a province of China, Russia, Iran, or some other lovely bunch. If we never spent another nickel on defence and could forever count on the US to protect us, that would be ideal. That's not reality though. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: If we never spent another nickel on defence and could forever count on the US to protect us, that would be ideal. That's not reality though. TBH, the US will protect us, even if it's just because they don't want someone else's army on the 49th. We just shouldn't take advantage of them like that though. It's like they're our daddy and we refuse to grow up. 2 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Army Guy Posted June 30, 2025 Report Posted June 30, 2025 12 hours ago, eyeball said: Just don't tell anyone until we have it we only need one FFS. So you reckon it's better to scrap our way of life and squander our resources and finances on the arsenal of conventional weapons it takes to deter a nuclear attack? What part of better dead than red didn't you get or did you just lose faith? Conventionally and disastrously in the end for anyone who did. Note how much Israel relies on handouts from taxpayers in the west to fund it's military. Did I say get in line? Nuke the stupid fùckers then. The world can't afford to waste anymore goddamn time on dictators and their sponsors. We have far more serious issues to deal with. Meanwhile the only military threat to Canada is from the south in which case you've pretty much made it clear you'd capitulate. Ya sure...you mean like Iran try to hide theirs.... Look Canadians have shown for decades they don't take their own security serious "read that again"save all the military people the time and effort they put into daily routine...don't act like your given up something when you really don't care Sure nuke them all....you should read more about nuclear weapons find out their effects, climate change will be the least of your worries... You don't know what threats our country faces on a daily basis...but thats because like most Canadians you have your head in a hole... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Edwin Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 Good Topic. I went to Alberta Canada 30 years ago, and the place felt like California in the 50's & early 60's. Stayed at a very nice and clean camp ground in Sterling Very clean, comfortable, showers and low priced. Houses in town were stuccoed.with a very durable stucco. Spending tons of the peoples' money on more stupid and vicious wars is worse than most anything else. Visited some Blood Tribe fellows who told me something important: Politicians get in Tribal councils and rob the tribe. Sounds just like the many ticks infesting Washington DC etc. They also told me about Mormons who leased land to build Cardston. When the lease ran out, The Mormons claimed they bought the land. On my way out of Canada and stopped at a library and found a copy of the lease between the Mormons and the Blood Indian Tribe. Sent a copy to the tribe, but never heard any thing about it to now. Quote
August1991 Posted July 1, 2025 Author Report Posted July 1, 2025 8 hours ago, ExFlyer said: And who would shovel the snow in downtown Toronto? Who would do the sandbagging every year in Winnipeg area? Who would help with flooding in Quebec every year? .... Local people who know far better. We do not need F-35s. Quote
Army Guy Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 8 hours ago, eyeball said: A dedicated federal works dept that can also form the basis for a civilian insurgency if we're invaded. We need to be more be like Switzerland. Besides which there's only one direction and invasion will every come from. The threat of a filthy dirty nuclear bomb should suffice to keep it at bay. Did you even read what you wrote....we have a dedicated federal department it is called the Canadian armed Forces.... ya sure, even the swiss have a military...almost equipped as well as ours... this has to be one of your crazier ideas...a dirty bomb....we can't even buy simple pistols within 15 years...and now you want a dirty bomb....well there is always e bay... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 18 minutes ago, August1991 said: Local people who know far better. We do not need F-35s. and if the local people ask for more help, who do they go to.... your right , i mean what does the air force know about flying....and aerial combat...nothing on the your level of experience or knowledge...i mean we all get along right, well except those crazy Russian, or them Chinese....or Iran, the list just gets bigger from there.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 20 hours ago, eyeball said: It'll never be enough which means you warhacks will be looking for room at the same teat everyone else is. Get in line. Like i said shut er all down, if you like it really does not matter to me...fire all of those people in the military....spend more on social programs or bonfires sing and dance kumbaya, spark up a few joints,i'm with ya man... that will go over pretty well with our friend trump...hbe6t ya he makes BC the 51 st state Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 29 minutes ago, Army Guy said: if you like it really does not matter to me. Me neither to be honest. We're fùcked no matter what we do, everyone is. 31 minutes ago, Army Guy said: .hbe6t ya he makes BC the 51 st state Meh... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
August1991 Posted July 1, 2025 Author Report Posted July 1, 2025 59 minutes ago, Army Guy said: and if the local people ask for more help, who do they go to.... your right , i mean what does the air force know about flying....and aerial combat...nothing on the your level of experience or knowledge...i mean we all get along right, well except those crazy Russian, or them Chinese....or Iran, the list just gets bigger from there.... On occasian, ordinary Canadians need help. But Russia is not about to invade us. Reagan won. Quote
August1991 Posted July 1, 2025 Author Report Posted July 1, 2025 In simple terms, we don't need NATO. Harper? I thought Poilievre could think outside the box. Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 11 hours ago, August1991 said: Local people who know far better. We do not need F-35s. The Military aid to civil power is for all local people, regardless of in Canada they live. They serve where they are needed. They need new fighters...if you own stock in someone other than Lockheed Martin then for sure you would not approve but, you know nothing about aviation, avionics, weapon technology, Military effectiveness and international support. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
User Posted July 1, 2025 Report Posted July 1, 2025 12 hours ago, August1991 said: In simple terms, we don't need NATO. Harper? I thought Poilievre could think outside the box. Never trust anyone who is cheering on Russia or spreading propaganda for them, as they are invading Ukraine, when they also advocate against NATO. August would be out in the square waving the Soviet flag, welcoming the Russian tanks if he could... 1 Quote
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