Trump has officially entered the psychotic emperor phase.

[BeaverFever]

On 5/7/2025 at 9:31 AM, Nationalist said:

@Libbies - Sooo...y'all don't like your own guns pointed back at your heads...huh?

Well fck all of you! You nasty little sh1ts warped the law and reality all for the sake of your hatred and need for power. Now the tables are turned and you don't like it...LOL...simps. Did you dumb little fcks really think Trump and the rest of us were going to play by Queensbury Rules? Just forgive and forget?

I hope Trump roasts every single one of the Democrats to a fcking crisp.

LMAO Once again you don’t argue that Trump’s a corrupt dictator but instead claim you’re justified because your turn and the other side did it first…which is exactly what every corrupt dictator in history did to justify their misdeeds.  Nobody who truly believes in justice or democracy would ever try to make that argument and clearly you don’t either. 
 

And of course all the supposed evil things you claim the Dems did that justify your own evil deeds are either fake, exaggerated or just the garden variety typical sleazy American politics that have been going on for generations in the US  

 

[Aristides]

This just means Qatar knows that Trump can be bought and is showing the world the evidence.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

You mooks would have been apoplectic if Biden or Obama had accepted something like thist. No one does that without a quid pro quo, it isn't like this is a f*cking charity.. Coming from a government it isn't even tax deductible. 

Remember when these same people had a mouth-foaming, eye-bulging category 10 meltdown conniption fit when Trudeau took ONE PLANE RIDE in a lifelong family friend’s plane? Holy hypocrisy, Batman!

Edited Wednesday at 02:09 AM by BeaverFever

[Aristides]

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO Once again you don’t argue that Trump’s [not] a corrupt dictator  

"executive branch employees are subject to an important set of ethics rules contained in the Standards of Ethical Conduct for Employees of the Executive Branch. Underlying these rules is a principle that employees must avoid even the appearance of impropriety. The impartiality rule breathes life into this principle."

US office of government ethics 

https://www.oge.gov/web/oge.nsf/Resources/A+Refresher+on+the+Impartiality+Rule

 

[Aristides]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I don't think he gets to keep the plane does he? I think he accepts it on behalf of America

He says it will go to his presidential library when he leaves office. He considers it his aircraft. He is as crooked as they come.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/05/12/trump-defends-plan-to-accept-luxury-plane-gift-from-qatar-heres-what-we-know/

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Trump told reporters in an unrelated press conference Monday he “wouldn’t be using” the plane after he leaves office and it “would go directly” to his presidential library.

 

[Legato]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

"executive branch employees are subject to an important set of ethics rules contained in the Standards of Ethical Conduct for Employees of the Executive Branch. Underlying these rules is a principle that employees must avoid even the appearance of impropriety. The impartiality rule breathes life into this principle."

US office of government ethics 

https://www.oge.gov/web/oge.nsf/Resources/A+Refresher+on+the+Impartiality+Rule

 

Tell that to Nancy Pelosi and all the other grifters in the US government. From both sides of the isle.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Wrong it is not. 

The name of the plane is Air Force One.

Why? Because it's an Air Force asset.

To bad...so sad.

[User]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Sure if that keeps him from taking bribes and selling access like to total scumbag 

What bribes? 

Everyone sells access. This is a common campaign thing. What is your point? 

[User]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Unfortunate you missed the rest of the conditions, lDIOT.

It's going to Trump's "Presidential Library" fund for HIS OWN USE. Like the 727 that's in Reagan's library, but unlike that jet, it will be flight ready and available which is why he wants it so bad.

IF you weren't MAGA CULT, you'd see the glee in his eyes.

Nope. This is where you ignore me or run away like you always do. 

Trump tried to tamp down some of the opposition by saying he wouldn’t fly around in the gifted Boeing 747 when his term ends. Instead, he said, the $400 million plane would be donated to a future presidential library, similar to how the Boeing 707 used by President Ronald Reagan was decommissioned and put on display as a museum piece.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-qatar-air-force-one-2ef13d87b71185bde547abe6840b098c

21 hours ago, Aristides said:

Anything that is worth $500,000,000 isn't a gift, it's a bribe.

The amount of anything has nothing to do with it being a bribe or not. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The deal is when he leaves it gets donated to “the Trump presidential library” which undoubtedly will just operate as another one of his sleazy scam businesses.

Well it will be under federal control, the presidential libraries are governed by federal law and are maintained by the feds. It's an old tradition. And many of them store gifts and other "three dimensional" records of the president's time.  And considering it'll be at the facility it's not like he'll be able to fly it  

I mean i kind of get it, but i don't think this is really a 'bribe' or the like other than he'll get an insanely luxurious jet to bum around in while he's president. And it'll probably be a pretty popular exhibit later which is bound to stroke his ego. 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Tell that to Nancy Pelosi and all the other grifters in the US government. From both sides of the isle.

Remind me how many airplanes Nancy Pelosi got

57 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The name of the plane is Air Force One.

Why? Because it's an Air Force asset.

To bad...so sad.

Trump is taking it with him when he leaves office. Pay attention. 

[Aristides]

46 minutes ago, User said:

Nope. This is where you ignore me or run away like you always do. 

Trump tried to tamp down some of the opposition by saying he wouldn’t fly around in the gifted Boeing 747 when his term ends. Instead, he said, the $400 million plane would be donated to a future presidential library, similar to how the Boeing 707 used by President Ronald Reagan was decommissioned and put on display as a museum piece.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-qatar-air-force-one-2ef13d87b71185bde547abe6840b098c

The amount of anything has nothing to do with it being a bribe or not. 

The B707 that was sent to the Reagan Library was introduced under Nixon in 1972. SAM27000 It had been in service 29 years and used by very president from Nixon to GW Bush. It was not a gift from a foreign government to be used by one president and then sent to his library.  

[BeaverFever]

55 minutes ago, User said:

What bribes? 

Everyone sells access. This is a common campaign thing. What is your point? 

No. Don’t even try to normalize this.
 

Even though USA’s campaign finance and political donation regime is extremely corrupt (thanks largely to Republican reforms) this is completely different. This scam is not political donation during election this is a TRUMP-OWNED BUSINESS selling access for PERSONAL PROFIT with a recurring fee of half million a year

[BeaverFever]

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well it will be under federal control, the presidential libraries are governed by federal law and are maintained by the feds. It's an old tradition. And many of them store gifts and other "three dimensional" records of the president's time.  And considering it'll be at the facility it's not like he'll be able to fly it  

I mean i kind of get it, but i don't think this is really a 'bribe' or the like other than he'll get an insanely luxurious jet to bum around in while he's president. And it'll probably be a pretty popular exhibit later which is bound to stroke his ego. 

The Qataris aren’t giving it to him because they’re super nice guys. And with Trump the luxury and ego are indeed bribes. 

[User]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The B707 that was sent to the Reagan Library was introduced under Nixon in 1972. SAM27000 It had been in service 29 years and used by very president from Nixon to GW Bush. It was not a gift from a foreign government to be used by one president and then sent to his library.  

OK... and? The point I was refuting was that Trump was somehow planning to go on flying around in this after his term. 

5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The Qataris aren’t giving it to him because they’re super nice guys. And with Trump the luxury and ego are indeed bribes. 

No, they are not bribes. You guys continue to abuse the definition of this word. 

[User]

12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

No. Don’t even try to normalize this.
 

Even though USA’s campaign finance and political donation regime is extremely corrupt (thanks largely to Republican reforms) this is completely different. This scam is not political donation during election this is a TRUMP-OWNED BUSINESS selling access for PERSONAL PROFIT with a recurring fee of half million a year

I am not trying to do anything. It is just a fact. I know you have a lot of problems with those from our past discussions. 

So what "him" are you talking about selling access? Not the President here. So what is your point? Like I said, I guess he should have taken up finger painting instead. 

 

[User]

27 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Trump is taking it with him when he leaves office. Pay attention. 

Like I said, you have a problem with facts...

[CdnFox]

43 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The Qataris aren’t giving it to him because they’re super nice guys. And with Trump the luxury and ego are indeed bribes. 

There is a difference between influence and a bribe. 

A bribe has to have direct and permanent value to the person, not the institution. 

Lets say he visits there and they throw a lavish dinner for him with the best foods and the best wine and the nicest setting.  Is that a bribe? Because that happens all the time with world leaders. He got something for free that he really likes didn't he? A world class meal? Maybe the fanciest accommodations during his stay? etc etc

So it's really not a 'bribe', and as i understand it this was already cleared by the powers that be as being legit provided he donates it.   Ronald regan apparently did the same thing. 

A bribe always has to involve quid pro quo, and permanent benefit to the recipient. While it's obvious that they're attempting to buy favor and influence him positively towards their country I don't think it could be called a bribe. Heads of state including the president get expensive gifts given to them all the time and while this may be a bit of an extreme example it's hardly unique in that respect.

 

[Aristides]

46 minutes ago, User said:

OK... and? The point I was refuting was that Trump was somehow planning to go on flying around in this after his term. 

No, they are not bribes. You guys continue to abuse the definition of this word. 

You guys really don't have any ethical standards. Not a one.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You guys really don't have any ethical standards. Not a one.

Once again, just pointing out a fact here and refuting something not true said buy Robo.

If you cared about "ethical standards" here, then you would do more to show that with your own posting standards. 

[Aristides]

9 minutes ago, User said:

Once again, just pointing out a fact here and refuting something not true said buy Robo.

If you cared about "ethical standards" here, then you would do more to show that with your own posting standards. 

SAM 27000 served 7 presidents 3 of them after Reagan left office. It wasn’t a gift to his presidency from a foreign country to be taken with him when he left. It was donated to the library 12 years after he left office. 
 

My posting standard are based on facts, not bullshit.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

In other words you have no defence for Trump’s shameless grift 

In other words, you're a total f-t4rd and you forgot how badly you get dummied every time you run your mouth here... 😂

Did you miss the part about "sitting around scoffing at ethics breaches" Beavey boy?

Are you really so f'ing ignorant that you don't see how that describes the PMO to a T? 

And what evidence do you even have that there was anything inappropriate about people staying at the Trump Hotel? That's just a snotty comment. It's no different than "the unvaxed are very often racists and misogynists", dummy. It's just a random sentence from a dude with no concern for the truth, much like yourself. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

 

Trump is taking it with him when he leaves office. Pay attention. 

No he isn't, it has to be Donated to his presidential library

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Trump is taking it with him when he leaves office. Pay attention. 

No he is not. It's destined for his Presidetial library. The people own the library and National Archives administrators it.