Should someone unelected lead a political party?

[CdnFox]

38 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

And all the cons whined and cried and went berserk that he was PM.

Now, the shoe is on the other foot and it is OK for a party leader to be un-elected.

Talk about hypocrites!  LOL

There is a huge difference between becoming party leader and pm

There is no problem with an unelected person being the leader of a party. Their constitution allows for it, only the MPS still get to vote so it's still 100% representative. And in most cases the leader was elected by the party so the fact that they are in charge of the party even though they may not have a seat is still democratic

Becoming prime minister on the other hand is a whole different ball of wax. You have real authority, you can enter into agreements and deals on behalf of Canadians who have never had a chance to vote for you

It is not surprising you need the difference explain to you

[ExFlyer]

15 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

The question came from Mytra, Should someone unelected lead a political party?

I replied that Carney was not elected....Nobody is crying just stating a fact...

          

My post and comment stands...like it or not.

[Army Guy]

6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

My post and comment stands...like it or not.

Not even sure what you going on about....or why you would bring up the things you did....a lefty asked a question i gave him  the answer....nobody is crying, or getting upset except for you that is...

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

My post and comment stands...like it or not.

I'm perfectly fine with your stupidity being on display for all to see   

[ExFlyer]

6 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Not even sure what you going on about....or why you would bring up the things you did....a lefty asked a question i gave him  the answer....nobody is crying, or getting upset except for you that is...

Stand by my post. You don't have to like it.

And you are wrong the conservatives whined and cried and had tantrums when Carney was selected as Liberal Party leader and PM.

Edited Wednesday at 10:28 PM by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm perfectly fine with your stupidity being on display for all to see   

I don't give a phuck what you think or say.

You  are a LOSER HA HA HA

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I don't give a phuck what you think or say.

You  are a LOSER HA HA HA

ROTFLMAO! Holy shit kid,  THAT was enough to send you into a melt down? 

29 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

And you are wrong the conservatives whined and cried and had tantrums when Carney was selected as Liberal Party leader and PM.

And PM   

LOLOL well at least you admit you were wrong. 

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Stand by my post. You don't have to like it.

And you are wrong the conservatives whined and cried and had tantrums when Carney was selected as Liberal Party leader and PM.

I'm sure there are many disappointed Conservatives,me included, but that's not what my post was about...nor was i crying or whining...

[betsy]

21 hours ago, myata said:

This is not the first time it happened in Canada and neither the second. So why some Conservatives made such a fuss of it? We can probably find such posts even if I bothered to look. So what's the problem with the Conservatives (today) and the objective reality, facts? What's the cause of that tension or even a conflict?

 

Indeed, that happens in every party!

How can we forget the tension within the Liberal Party?  As far as I can remember to the days of Raybould?

 

Why shouldn't we make a "fuss" over it?   Meaning, to openly question the purpose or motive of the  Provincial PC in criticizing the Federal Conservative campaign in the middle of a heated election? 

Lol - should we make something out of what would be a normal thing to do in a forum? Bring out notable issues? Like as if it's irrelevant - since we're doing an autopsy of the past election?

Edited yesterday at 09:20 AM by betsy

[betsy]

10 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

I don't give a phuck what you think or say.

You  are a LOSER HA HA HA

 

 

How.....................childish.

Edited yesterday at 09:28 AM by betsy

[myata]

11 hours ago, Army Guy said:

no mytra was complaining about PP now being a party leader with no seat...

No fk these are the superhuman kind, no less. Seriously, it's not there but they see it!

[myata]

21 minutes ago, betsy said:

How can we forget the tension within the Liberal Party?

In a moment let's just answer the question first:

-> It was wrong for Carney: who else should it be wrong for?

-> It was fine and OK for Carney: what was the st#pidest cat show about?

Unless you're living in a three-dimensional logic world, this exhausts the logical possibilities in this one.

[betsy]

Just now, myata said:

In a moment let's just answer the question first:

-> It was wrong for Carney: who else should it be wrong for?

-> It was fine and OK for Carney: what was the st#pidest cat show about?

Unless you're living in a three-dimensional logic world, this exhausts the logical possibilities in this one.

 

Eh?

 

What are you on about?

[blackbird]

12 hours ago, herbie said:

Be amazed how suddenly it is when the circle turns.

He got voted out of his seat. It is now up to the Conservative Party to decide if a leader refusing a security clearance, blowing a 25 pt lead in the polls, and voted out of his seat, should remain leader.

Knowing the double-down on wrong because it's "right" attitude of the people here they may or may not like the Party's decision.

PP is the greatest.  He brought the party to 20 pts ahead of the Liberals.  Then they brought in the banker World Economic Forum globalist and climate change U.N. guy and Trump scared a lot of the people into falling for the banker.  

Even after that PP brought the number of seats of the Cons up by a significant number.  He deserves credit for that.  PP lost his own seat because his opponent spent the last couple years door knocking while PP was busy doing all the hard work leading the party and the Cons campaign and didn't have all the time in the world to spend knocking on doors.  He sacrificed his own seat for the good of the party.

[betsy]

Here is the thing for me:


I would cease to be a Conservative member if Poilievre is kicked out as  leader.

Imho - you don't kick on someone who's worked so hard, done and achieve something being called as unprecendented for the party, for losing his own seat, in a kind of unnatural election we just had.

 

In a way -  it was really a battle between Poilievre and TRUMP! 

And yet..............Poilievre still performed well!

 

Kicking Poilievre out - how can I be with a party that treats his own like that?

Edited yesterday at 10:56 AM by betsy

[betsy]

Don't forget what he was able to do in Toronto!

 

Liberals face disappointment in Ontario as Conservatives surge in GTA ridings

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-reap-benefits-of-quebec-surge-despite-conservative-gains-in/

 

[betsy]

Had we had an extra week of campaigning - I believe the Conservatives would've won. 

At the eve of the election, he was able to close the gap between the Cons and the Libs - and it's reflected in those tight races we see in various ridings.

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROTFLMAO! Holy shit kid,  THAT was enough to send you into a melt down? 

And PM   

LOLOL well at least you admit you were wrong. 

Geez, your addiction to me needs some professional help.

"love addicts, people with relationship addiction seek feelings of euphoria and gain intense chemical reactions and releases while in pursuitof others"

Find an addiction service in your area to help you get over me LOL

 

Edited yesterday at 03:24 PM by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

10 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I'm sure there are many disappointed Conservatives,me included, but that's not what my post was about...nor was i crying or whining...

I do not recall accusing you specifically of anything.

Don't be paranoid because you are a devout conservative.

 

I normally am conservative (except on this forum because it 

pi$$es off so many and it is fun to get under their skin). 

I saw the attitude swing and chose to vote for the candidate in my riding that would be able to do things and get things done for my riding. I suspect the blue ridings achievements are going to stagnate with this government.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:20 PM by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, betsy said:

Don't forget what he was able to do in Toronto!

 

Liberals face disappointment in Ontario as Conservatives surge in GTA ridings

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-reap-benefits-of-quebec-surge-despite-conservative-gains-in/

 

 

1 hour ago, betsy said:

Had we had an extra week of campaigning - I believe the Conservatives would've won. 

At the eve of the election, he was able to close the gap between the Cons and the Libs - and it's reflected in those tight races we see in various ridings.

 

1 hour ago, betsy said:

Don't forget what he was able to do in Toronto!

 

Liberals face disappointment in Ontario as Conservatives surge in GTA ridings

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberals-reap-benefits-of-quebec-surge-despite-conservative-gains-in/

 

 

1 hour ago, betsy said:

Had we had an extra week of campaigning - I believe the Conservatives would've won. 

At the eve of the election, he was able to close the gap between the Cons and the Libs - and it's reflected in those tight races we see in various ridings.

But, but, but ...the Liberals won and Carney is the PM.

I love the excuses that keep coming

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ford and Poilievre's Campaign manager absolutely hate each other with a passion that only can be described as legendary or epic. Long before the election it was creating Bad Blood between the two groups, but ford decided to take it next level and screw with an election. That's not okay

BS. Ford never said anything about the election. He was completely silent.

As PP was for the Ontario election except PP told his people not to help Ford.

From a former conservative campaign manager "“This campaign is going to be studied for decades as the biggest *ucking disaster in terms of having lost a massive lead in ways that were so obvious, with so much information,” he said on the “Curse of Politics” podcast."

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm perfectly fine with stupidity being on display for all to see   

Then keep on keeping on  LOL

[herbie]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

PP is the greatest.  He brought the party to 20 pts ahead of the Liberals. 

Then he managed to LOSE.
So much for your definition of "great".

Stick with your loser. Double down, call to move further to the right. Bang your head against the stone wall some more, it hasn't crumbled because you didn't smash your head against it hard enough !

[taxme]

22 hours ago, betsy said:

That might be the biggest motivation for Trump to really set his sights on taking Canada.  Imagine having a Socialist regime right on his doorstep! 🤣

I do not give a crap as to what happens to this country anymore. I did what i could to try and save Canada from communism for decades now and look where it has got me. All pizzed off. Canada needs to end as a country. It serves no real purpose at all anymore. All it does is make the french communists in Quebec keep gloating about how they have been phkn up this once great English speaking country for decades now, and driving it into the ground. It will just become more Marxist woke and bloody well broke every day. Canada is finished. Live with it. The WEF globalist lieberals have won. Your freedom and money will continue to be stolen from you. 

If Trump sends in the military today or tomorrow, it will work for me. And i am not alone on that. Or if Alberta should separate from Canada, then that will work fine for me also. It is for sure that whatever happens to Canada, i could careless, i just want to see it dissolve.

Canada is not worth fighting for anymore. The lieberal mongrels have won. It is theirs to destroy Canada even more. We can thank it all to the imbeciles who put in Corney. They are going to pay the price also. The bloody buffoons. 🤮 

[CouchPotato]

8 hours ago, betsy said:

Here is the thing for me:

I would cease to be a Conservative member if Poilievre is kicked out as  leader.

Pierre has a real movement at this point. There is no reason to kick him out. And it has only been a few days since the election. I wouldn't be in any hurry to make drastic decisions.

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

I do not give a crap as to what happens to this country anymore. I did what i could to try and save Canada from communism for decades now and look where it has got me.

I don't think it's communism.