PM Carney says after 11 people were killed there is no danger to Canadians

[blackbird]

The day after 11 people were killed by a 30 year old guy with mental problems there is no danger to Canadians, according to Carney anyway.

He appears to be downplaying the widespread problem in Canada with the countless number of people who have mental problems but are out on the streets and attack other people every day.

The problem is in the last half of the 20th century Canadian society started to change it's attitude toward mental institutions for involuntary care and shifted more toward giving rights to individuals with mental problems to be free if they so wish.  Then in 1982, Pierre Trudeau, the champion of liberal ideology brought in his Charter of Rights and this was used by courts and politicians to champion everyone's right to not be forced into a mental institution and also to not be held in bail or prisons if they could possibly be released, even on conditions and a blind belief that they could be trusted to follow certain rules.  These ideas became entrenched in liberal ideology as being progressive.  Judges were appointed with this ideology to uphold it as a proper interpretation of the Charter of Rights.  

When mental institutions were closed over the last 50 years, it was believed the communities would be better suited to take care of the mentally ill.  It never happened.  Towns or cities are not equipped at all to deal with the mentally ill.  Now the mentally ill are camped on the streets, taking drugs, dying of overdoses and committing crimes and assaults daily.  When they are arrested, they are almost always immediately released by judges.  The serious offenders that harm people may be referred to a provincial mental health department but they are not put in an institution and not jailed.  They are free to carry on.

It should be noted the police are announcing this is not an act of "terrorism".   What?  What definition of terrorism are they going by?  Obviously the police are going by a definition of terrorism that is used in the application of a law for laying terrorism charges.  But by the normal definition, it is clearly a form of terrorism.

The Merriam Webster dictionary online gives this definition of terror:

1: a state of intense or overwhelming fear

2: violence or the threat of violence used as a weapon of intimidation or coercion

 

Edited Sunday at 06:05 PM by blackbird

[herbie]

AAGGGHHH the streets are full of zombie psycho killers - don't open your front door! Use that crystal ball to lock up anyone with mental problems before anything happens so that we're safe! AAIIIIEEEE!

 

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, herbie said:

AAGGGHHH the streets are full of zombie psycho killers - don't open your front door! Use that crystal ball to lock up anyone with mental problems before anything happens so that we're safe! AAIIIIEEEE!

 

But if a conservative gets into office, people will stop reporting individual incidents and blaming the PM for everything that happens. So we'll be safe at that point.

[herbie]

Yes, they have some weird beliefs as to what the govt does and can do.
Or how they get news instantly from all over the world and think that Vancouver incident proves it's not safe to walk the streets in Cornerbrook anymore.

Got a stepdaughter like that. Claimed there were 6 registered sex offenders in her complex in Terrace BC so she had to walk her 12 yr old daughter to school one block away to be safe. Doubt there's 6 'registered sex offenders' in that whole town or even in all N Central BC.

 

[User]

58 minutes ago, herbie said:

AAGGGHHH the streets are full of zombie psycho killers - don't open your front door! Use that crystal ball to lock up anyone with mental problems before anything happens so that we're safe! AAIIIIEEEE!

 

So... your big plan is to flippantly not give a shit that some crazy person just killed a bunch of people. 

 

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, herbie said:

Yes, they have some weird beliefs as to what the govt does and can do.
Or how they get news instantly from all over the world and think that Vancouver incident proves it's not safe to walk the streets in Cornerbrook anymore.

Got a stepdaughter like that. Claimed there were 6 registered sex offenders in her complex in Terrace BC so she had to walk her 12 yr old daughter to school one block away to be safe. Doubt there's 6 'registered sex offenders' in that whole town or even in all N Central BC.

And yet you believe that everyone that worked in residential schools was a pedophile and a child abuser, there were mass-murders there which were kept secret, and that the schools were actually conceived and created for the exact purpose of doing such things. 

Try not to take this personally, but you just shut up and make people guess how stupid you are. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But if a conservative gets into office, people will stop reporting individual incidents and blaming the PM for everything that happens. So we'll be safe at that point.

If a conservative gets in there won't be these kinds of incidents nearly as often. Which is why you'll be safe

Edited Monday at 12:40 AM by CdnFox

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But if a conservative gets into office, people will stop reporting individual incidents and blaming the PM for everything that happens. So we'll be safe at that point.

Translation: "DAMMIT! Why didn't he use guns instead of a car???? This would have been the PERFECT time for a terrorist attack by a white supremacist Mexican like Zimmerman, or imaginary MAGAs outside of a Subway restaurant, or an imaginary Chinese-Canadian white supremacist hijab attack in Toronto. Where's that Trudeau photographer who wore the confederate flag jacket? Save us confederate boy!!!!!"

Edited Monday at 01:20 AM by WestCanMan

[herbie]

Notice how the 3 stooges can't reply to the subject so they post things imagined and not said and reply to argue to that instead....

Edited Monday at 01:51 AM by herbie

[Boges]

When an incel shoots up a school, in the US, is that an act of terrorism? 

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But if a conservative gets into office, people will stop reporting individual incidents and blaming the PM for everything that happens. So we'll be safe at that point.

Oh no they won't. And yes, we WILL lock them all up in either jails, or institutions for addiction.

[User]

30 minutes ago, Boges said:

When an incel shoots up a school, in the US, is that an act of terrorism? 

Is this your attitude when that happens?

"AAGGGHHH the streets are full of zombie psycho killers - don't open your front door! Use that crystal ball to lock up anyone with mental problems before anything happens so that we're safe! AAIIIIEEEE!"

[herbie]

6 hours ago, Boges said:

When an incel shoots up a school, in the US, is that an act of terrorism? 

Maybe they need to elect law and order politicians that believe you should be involuntarily locked up on the suspicion of being an incel.
That's what some are demanding, that the guy should have been locked away because he was known to have mental issues, and they with their crystal balls and layman knowledge of laws and psychology know better. That and a prayer are what they think 'sympathy for the victims' should consist of.

 I just made a snide post and instantly someone replies exactly as I mentioned in that post, doubling down as if it disproved the 'sarcastic generality' I used.
Grab that brain, you really need it.

 

[User]

13 minutes ago, herbie said:

Maybe they need to elect law and order politicians that believe you should be involuntarily locked up on the suspicion of being an incel.
That's what some are demanding, that the guy should have been locked away because he was known to have mental issues, and they with their crystal balls and layman knowledge of laws and psychology know better. That and a prayer are what they think 'sympathy for the victims' should consist of.

 I just made a snide post and instantly someone replies exactly as I mentioned in that post, doubling down as if it disproved the 'sarcastic generality' I used.
Grab that brain, you really need it.

 

It is amazing how you always have to frame everything so dishonestly and then you probably think you are making some kind of point. 

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Should the PM have said there was more danger? 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Should the PM have said there was more danger? 

I think the danger message was fading by the end. He was dropping in the polls and losing ground for the last week at least.  There are usually four major parties and one minor party in Canadian politics and he managed to get the other two major and one minors voters all to side with him. The whole trump thing gave him the perfect storm. He could not have done better than he did. It is absolutely ridiculous that he did as well as he did do

And it puts him in a tough spot. The NDP will not have a enough seats to support him. He will have to deal with the block exclusively and keep them happy and that is going to present some problems considering his platform.

[User]

8 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Should the PM have said there was more danger? 

One would hope leaders would be more honest about these things.