Nationalist Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 4 hours ago, Hodad said: Yeah, just memory hole everything he's been saying for the past month and pretend this is intentional. Like what? He said he was gonna use tariffs...and he used tariffs. Maybe he'll use them again too. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 17 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Like what? He said he was gonna use tariffs...and he used tariffs. He just used them to make himself and his cronies a tidy bundle. "Tariffs will make us rich" Now we know who he means by us. 20 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Maybe he'll use them again too. Missed out on the first flip-flop did you? It's not like he didn't warn you. "THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT." He gave some 4 hours notice that something was up. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
gatomontes99 Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 (edited) 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: Every single country that is currently prepared to negotiate was absolutely prepared to negotiate before the tariffs and in fact before trump. You can't prove a single one was willing to negotiate. 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: Can you show me where England said they wouldn't negotiate with trump? They had multiple opportunities under Trump and Biden. They gave a little under Trp's first term, but they tried to get it back under Biden. They didn't want to deal. They wanted to steal. 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: Can you show me where Canada said that especially considering they'd already had talk scheduled? You can't show me any where we're they said they wanted a new trade deal before Trump said he would impose tariffs. Because they didn't want to. 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: How about France, when did he ask France to come to the negotiating table and they said no? They are the only ones to make that proclamation: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/france-and-its-partners-will-not-yield-to-us-threats-says-french-trade-minister/ But the proof in all of these is in reality. None of them negotiated new trade deals. Canada/Trudeau kept saying they were team Canada, Mexico refused to deal with cartels and no one really truly negotiated until tariffs became reality. Edited April 11 by gatomontes99 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 5 hours ago, Hodad said: That's pure crap. Any of those countries would have negotiated tariffs--and tried to. And the Trump tariff formulas were not based on tariffs, so clearly that was not the sticking point. You're trying to fanboy retcon maybe the biggest economic blunder in history as 4D chess. It's nonsense. Except Canada did nothing until the first tariffs. Then, all of a sudden, they were willing to work with us on the border. You are full of it. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CdnFox Posted April 11 Author Report Posted April 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Ya he gave the stock markets a wake-up call. If good deals come of this, I'm not sure it can be condemned. Especially with the manufacturing returning. If good deals come of this it will because of his actions from this point forward rather than some of the steps he's taken to date. Which is entirely possible and there is nothing wrong with a leader that trips up and recovers and turns his situation into a positive for his country. It is ridiculous of course to expect that our leaders will never make a mistake or that something that they try will not go wrong from time to time, It's all about how you recover and turn it into a positive. It's quite possible he will make lemonade out of this yet. The country is not in a recession yet. But I do believe he really has to knock it off with the 3-month thing, he has got to give the market some stability instead of signaling that things may still blow up. He's got enough on his plate dealing with china right now and he has to be aware that his economy is driven largely by his stock market which is currently in the crapper Edited April 11 by CdnFox Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: It's quite possible he will make lemonade out of this yet. He's managed to make himself some $415 million out of it so far. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
August1991 Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 (edited) On 4/9/2025 at 3:54 PM, robosmith said: Well, it looks like I made 20% on my investments in 5 days. Wonder if I should bail now and take the money and run. Never know what mess Trump will create. Robosmith! Even AI can't time the market. I suspect that Rand Paul's speech in the Senate changed things. Unlike Joe Clark, Trump can count. Edited April 11 by August1991 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 9 hours ago, eyeball said: He just used them to make himself and his cronies a tidy bundle. "Tariffs will make us rich" Now we know who he means by us. Missed out on the first flip-flop did you? It's not like he didn't warn you. "THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT." He gave some 4 hours notice that something was up. Nice assumption. But it's all just assumption. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 9 hours ago, August1991 said: Robosmith! Even AI can't time the market. How do you know ^this? I was able to time the market for major highs and major lows for 40 years. I sold all my investments just a month before the 1987 crash, and called every major shift for the next 40 years. Only quit after the 2nd half of Trump 45 when I sold everything because the market was too chaotic. Major shifts are relatively easy; I call it the "too good to be true" trading strategy. This last week was the first time I re-entered the market. TBD. Quote
August1991 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 On 4/11/2025 at 1:42 PM, robosmith said: .... I was able to time the market for major highs and major lows for 40 years. .... You started trading in 1985? (Let's say you started trading at 10. You were born in 1975?) Jeff Bezos was born in 1964. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 13 Author Report Posted April 13 On 4/11/2025 at 10:42 AM, robosmith said: How do you know ^this? I was able to time the market for major highs and major lows for 40 years. I sold all my investments just a month before the 1987 crash, and called every major shift for the next 40 years. Only quit after the 2nd half of Trump 45 when I sold everything because the market was too chaotic. Major shifts are relatively easy; I call it the "too good to be true" trading strategy. This last week was the first time I re-entered the market. TBD. Sure. That's every bit as believable as you being a computer genius You were the one who invented the internet right? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 3 hours ago, August1991 said: You started trading in 1985? (Let's say you started trading at 10. You were born in 1975?) Jeff Bezos was born in 1964. What does Jeff Bezos have to do with when I started trading stocks? Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 (edited) In normal times there’d be a call for an investigation into the potential for massive insider trading here but it’s not the main story. In the 1956 Suez Crisis, Eisenhower threatened to sell sterling bonds, forcing the British to abandon the canal. It was the end of Britain as a great power. Incredibly, Trump may have initiated a loss of trust in the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. He feels it’s overvalued and he may get his wish. What an agent of chaos and ruin he has always been. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/bond-market-moves-raise-fears-growing-bets-america-rcna200936 Edited April 13 by SpankyMcFarland 2 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted April 13 Author Report Posted April 13 11 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: In normal times there’d be a call for an investigation into the potential for massive insider trading here but it’s not the main story. In the 1956 Suez Crisis, Eisenhower threatened to sell sterling bonds, forcing the British to abandon the canal. It was the end of Britain as a great power. Incredibly, Trump may have initiated a loss of trust in the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. He feels it’s overvalued and he may get his wish. What an agent of chaos and ruin he has always been. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/bond-market-moves-raise-fears-growing-bets-america-rcna200936 I think we're probably a little ways away from the abandonment of America and the dollar as an anchor currency. But there's no doubt it has shaken people's confidence in it a little and that does have ramifications Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 (edited) 24 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I think we're probably a little ways away from the abandonment of America and the dollar as an anchor currency. But there's no doubt it has shaken people's confidence in it a little and that does have ramifications We are, of course, which is why I said ‘may have initiated’, but there is no question he has damaged that credibility. Edited April 13 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 (edited) Here’s the good news: tariffs will make a man of ya. Quote In a bizarre Hail Mary to convince MAGA supporters that tariffs are a good thing, Fox News hosts and pundits flooded the network with claims that Trump’s tariffs will turn men into real men again. On Fox News’ The Five, Greg Gutfeld asked, "Could Trump's tariffs be the ultimate testosterone boost?” Fox News host Jesse Watters, who has called everything from grocery shopping to eating soup in public feminine and that a man who votes Democrat “transitions into a woman,” told viewers that men who work in factories are real men because “when you sit behind a screen all day, it makes you a woman. Studies have shown this,” Salon reports. https://www.yahoo.com/news/tariffs-put-hair-chest-fox-233236384.html Edited April 13 by SpankyMcFarland 3 Quote
Aristides Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 Like those dipsticks would know anything about manual labour. 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 Can you imagine being this stupid? Quote The Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene invested in tech shares before the White House paused tariffs and triggered a rebound in the stock market. Ms Greene, who is a staunch ally of Donald Trump, is facing calls for an investigation after she bought into various plummeting stocks, including Lululemon, Dell Computer, Apple Inc, Amazon, and the parent of Restoration Hardware. https://apple.news/A3Hn_3MF8SAqJl52XZPjmxQ Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Here’s the good news: tariffs will make a man of ya. https://www.yahoo.com/news/tariffs-put-hair-chest-fox-233236384.html This from a man who wears makeup all day. 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Hodad Posted April 14 Report Posted April 14 8 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Here’s the good news: tariffs will make a man of ya. https://www.yahoo.com/news/tariffs-put-hair-chest-fox-233236384.html Jeebus, these MAGA guys are wildly insecure. Can you imagine being such a loser that you sit around all day wondering whether your every activity is "manly" enough? 2 Quote
CdnFox Posted April 14 Author Report Posted April 14 13 hours ago, Hodad said: Jeebus, these MAGA guys are wildly insecure. Can you imagine being such a loser that you sit around all day wondering whether your every activity is "manly" enough? From the crew that spends their entire day wondering if a man is a woman Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted April 15 Report Posted April 15 Well Well Well...most global markets are stabilizing. I'n't that speciaaalll? US is a mixed bag and China as well. "AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!" pfft... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 Who here is ready and willing to work in one of these allegedly returning factories? The whole story is nonsense. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 On 4/15/2025 at 12:08 PM, Nationalist said: Well Well Well...most global markets are stabilizing. I'n't that speciaaalll? US is a mixed bag and China as well. "AHHH!!! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!!!" pfft... Do you even know the history of Smoot-Hawley? LMAO 1 Quote
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