Conservatives Have Taken the Lead in Federal Polls

Dave L · April 12

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It takes half the effort to Tell the truth as it does to lie. Course Connie needs to give more answers

Half as many as Carney and 2/3 fewer than Blanchette or Singh.

Your inherent fear of telling the truth, and the crap you constantly lie about.

Pierre has been letting Canadians get to know him for well over a year and change. Even after Justin left he was doing interviews and talking to the media while the only media that carney talked to was the American and British. Kearney wouldn't even sit down with the media during his so-called leadership race.

Everybody knows Poilievre. It's carney that's the unknown

All elections expose the same things. The person you least want to get elected doesn't.

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Immature enough to talk like a little child, clueless enough to support a compulsive liar who prefers to live abroad than in Canada and locks people out of rallies in their own neighbourhoods.

I can't say what your actual age is, but we both know that you're not smart.

Please tell me the best legislation a Conservative Government has ever passed. Go back as far as you want. I'm waiting.

Dave L · April 12

On 4/8/2025 at 7:03 AM, Goddess said:

The polls aren't so much "lying" as misleading.

There was one I saw that they polled almost 3X as many boomers as anyone else, thus the result that Libs were in the lead by far.

I trust the rallies. Conservatives are having massive rally turnouts. I trust what I see on social media - Lib propaganda is dominating, but the comments under the posts are not favourable.

If the polls this time around are as accurate as the last election they are pretty much saying the Cons have failed again to present a suitable leader. That is key. A leader who the people like. It has nothing to do with how much money they are saying they will give you. I live in the west and I am sick and tired of hearing the whining because they didn't elect a Con. If you want to be properly and fully represented in Parliament you have to vote differently from time to time as they do in the rest of Canada. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is the definition of madness.

WestCanMan · April 12

1 hour ago, Dave L said:

He might not be smart and he might be, but your comments are just like your ilk. Mean nasty and rude.

He's dragging the forum down with his juvenile drivel. I have no problem with being rude to a guy like that.

WestCanMan · April 12

58 minutes ago, Dave L said:

I really want to see the machine hooked up to your brain because it has not dealt with reality. Pollieivre has done nothing since he took over as leader, absolutely nothing other than get rid of his glasses. You are one vote and I am one vote. The polls are not on your side my friend. I don't need to check and see why.

You know that Poilievre is just the leader of the opposition, right?

What did you expect him to do, end the wars in Russia and Israel?

PP has been and excellent leader of the opposition. His critiques have been accurate & poignant and he has handled questions from hostile reporters like a champion.

I get that it's upsetting for cultists to see someone hold Trudeau's feet to the fire, but the CBC has been given hundreds of millions of dollars to look the other way. That's why they're basically ignoring Carney's lies, his conflicts of interest, and his close ties to China, while trying to make a big deal of the fact that some random dude donated money to the conservatives.

CBC: "Oh my God, why doesn't PP vet every single one of the 37,000 people who donated money to him? This is outrageous! If he needed money, why didn't he just get a loan from the Communist Bank of China?"

1 hour ago, Dave L said:

Our real hope it to prevent Pollieivre from doing just that and so far we are on track.

Que est-ce que fork?

CdnFox · April 12

1 hour ago, Dave L said:

So you are of the belief that everyone or the majority of those who work at CBC are Liberals and not Conservatives.

More accurately that they're not conservatives. They may support the liberals or the NDP or the greens but the vast majority of them want to see Conservative governments fail and there are plenty of examples

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You and the Cons are picking on the wrong network. The CBC is not paid or owned by anyone but the citizens of Canada.

That is false. They are paid primarily by the government. The government makes its money from the people of Canada but the people of Canada do not pay the CBC. However the bias doesn't need ownership. It doesn't even required a lot of organization. It requires like-minded people in the organization to allow it to happen and to want it to happen and as I say the examples are numerous. It's not even a debate at this point

So what you did is take something that was not relevant even if it was true which also wasn't true and tried to base your argument on that. Not off to a good start

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If you want to know why the polls are as they are, look at the people the west has running our provincial Governments. Smith and Moe. People see what they re doing and really don't like it. Regressive both of them. In both Provinces they had to change the parties names to get elected.

Nothing to do with it. Smith and moe are running the provinces when the conservatives had a 20-point lead. So that blew your theory out of the water

The poles are the way they are because and as the technical prime minister that puts carney at a severe advantage. He was hyped up by the media and became an instant Golden Boy celebrity. Now that he's opened his mouth and people are getting a look at him the poles are starting to dip and he's gone from strong liberal majority projected to liberal minority projected with 50 seats assigned which could put him into liberal minority position because they're too close to call.

I know why the poles are the way they are. And frankly at this point I kind of like where they're going. If Connie has a bad debate it's going to be very very hard for him. As always trump remains the wild card, whenever he messes with Canada Carney's numbers go up a bit.

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.Carney did the job they paid him to do and did a great job for them. I have no doubt he will do the same for us as Canadians.

They're still paying him. And they'll be paying him when he leaves the office. As prime minister he might make as much as $300,000 a year. As soon as he steps out of being prime minister he will stand to make more like 3 to 30 million a year and a lot of that will depend on what he does as prime minister.

Did you know Justin is currently making about 3 million a year from various companies that put him on his board and he does nothing and they made money from him while he was prime minister?

You are literally putting the Fox in charge of the hen house. Notice how he's suggesting we should go to modular homes? His company owns massive modular home businesses. Same with heat pumps. He literally gave him an interview going point by point how he made a living talking governments into policies that his company was in position to capitalize on whether it was good for that country or not and he did that in England. I mean they're his words it's not someone else saying that.

I have no doubt Connie will do a good job. But you don't understand what his job is going to be. His job is going to be screwing Canada over by setting policies the benefit his businesses but not Canada and siphoning money off into companies and organizations and Charities that will pay him huge amounts when he gets out and back into the private sector. That's how these things work

Conservatives warned you about Justin Trudeau 10 years ago. You didn't listen and now our standard of living is nosediving in Canada is in real trouble. Now we're telling you again, don't be stupid carney is bad news. You need to pay attention

WestCanMan · April 12

58 minutes ago, Dave L said:

I get it, you are angry the polls turned on the Cons. That is democracy. Denying everything does not make it so. You are angry because Carney removed PPs biggest promise. He was going to ax the carbon tax. You have to be in power to do that and Carney is.

You're a babe in the woods, Dave. I don't even have the heart to talk to you about these things.

WestCanMan · April 12

1 hour ago, Dave L said:

Please tell me the best legislation a Conservative Government has ever passed. Go back as far as you want. I'm waiting.

Here's 2014, genius:

https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2014/12/prime-minister-stephen-harper-highlights-government-2014-achievements.html

You'll notice that he didn't give billions of dollars to the CBC, give billions of dollars for transgender BS in foreign countries, give billions of dollars for global warming crap to foreign countries, or let half a million immigrants in that year.

How many homeless people did you see when Harper was PM? Were they sleeping right beside the hwys where you live?

Legato · April 12

8 hours ago, Dave L said:

Doug Ford endorsed Carney your Carney side is another lie that the right is so good at doing. There was Trump but he only said he endorsed Carney to attempt to fool voters, a fact that hasn't occured to you.

Whose Doug Ford, does he drive a Chevy to the carnival for some Peking duck.

PIK · April 12

12 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Poilievre is going to have to considerably exceed current expectations in Southern Ontario to have any chance of a majority win.

Unions , police forces are backing him. Will carneys carbon taxes on steel, is only going to make matters worse,with the tariffs. So why any steel worker would vote carney is hard to grasp. Its suicide for their industry.

Barquentine · April 12

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You'll notice that he didn't give billions of dollars to the CBC

Look it up. He funded the CBC every year in office. A lie doesn't become the truth just because you keep repeating it.

Legato · April 12

16 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Look it up. He funded the CBC every year in office. A lie doesn't become the truth just because you keep repeating it.

Yes he did but reduced by $115m.

This is what pisses people off.....

The number of Canadian Broadcasting Corporation staff taking home a six-figure annual salary has soared by 231 per cent under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Last year, 1,450 CBC staff took home more than $100,000 in base salary, according to access-to-information records obtained by the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

That’s a 231 per cent increase over 2015, when just 438 CBC employees took home a six-figure annual salary.

Six-figure salaries at the state broadcaster cost taxpayers more than $181 million last year, for an average of $125,000 for those employees.

“The CBC has been raking in big paycheques and bonuses while the taxpayers footing the bills have been struggling,” said Franco Terrazzano, CTF Federal Director. “Is anyone in government going to step in, stick up for taxpayers and put an end to the CBC gravy train?”

The CBC also dished out more than $11.5 million in pay raises last year to 87 per cent of its workforce, according to separate access-to-information records.

No CBC employee received a pay cut in 2023.

All told, raises at the CBC total $97 million since 2015."

https://www.taxpayer.com/newsroom/cbc-staff-with-six-figure-salaries-balloons-under-trudeau-government

WestCanMan · April 12

41 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Look it up. He funded the CBC every year in office. A lie doesn't become the truth just because you keep repeating it.

Of course the CBC was funded by the federal gov't, because they're a huge money-loser and I notice that they're still around, but what Harper didn't do was give them over $1B right before an election, like the LPOC just did.

WestCanMan · April 12

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

PP has been and excellent leader of the opposition. His critiques have been accurate & poignant and he has handled questions from hostile reporters like a champion.

@Dave L... Further to the above, watch this video of Poilievre taking questions from hostile reporters:

SpankyMcFarland · April 12

Although Trump and Carney arrived like meteors into our political world, Poilievre should still have been better prepared in both style and content.

His likeability was an obvious weakness from the day he became leader but was only a potential problem as Trudeau sank in the polls. With the benefit of hindsight, he should have been working constantly to improve that.

Committed Tories are a little more than a third of the electorate. In the absence of a big NDP/BQ vote they have to make inroads into the right flank of Liberal support and there hasn’t been enough of that. The clear statement on abortion was one example of what is needed.

If Poilievre wins he will have done so despite making it harder for himself.

4 hours ago, PIK said:

Unions , police forces are backing him. Will carneys carbon taxes on steel, is only going to make matters worse,with the tariffs. So why any steel worker would vote carney is hard to grasp. Its suicide for their industry.

How many seats do you think they are going to win in Ontario? It needs to be a big number.

Edited April 12 by SpankyMcFarland

WestCanMan · April 12

48 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Although Trump and Carney arrived like meteors into our political world, Poilievre should still have been better prepared in both style and content.

His likeability was an obvious weakness from the day he became leader but was only a potential problem as Trudeau sank in the polls. With the benefit of hindsight, he should have been working constantly to improve that.

C'mon Spanky.

Do you see Carney as being more charismatic than Poilievre? Is that supposed to be some kind of joke?

FYI no one likes a guy who's lying to them (aside from maybe Justin), and that's all that Carney has been doing lately.

His only edge in charisma is the fact that the CBC tells you that you shouldn't like Poilievre and that Carney is a-ok:

Carney lies like a sidewalk, bungles around between conflicts of interest and foreign interference fiascos, makes diplomatic blunders like "acknowledging the Israeli genocide against Gaza", sending Canadian jobs to the US, etc, and then CBC says: "The polls show us that everyone LOVES Mark Carney, and look over here!!!! Some random dude just donated to Poilievre's campaign!!!!! That is a big deal!!!!"

Do you think I'm wrong?

What evidence do you have that people even like Carney, aside from the polling from LPOC cronies like Nanos?

There's a thread about the relative character of Carney and Poilievre in this forum and there's not a single leftist here that will even try to make the case that Carney has more integrity than Poilievre. Not one.

If even the most hardcore, propaganda-pushing leftists here can't come up with a single defence of Carney's character, what makes you think that undecided voters really like Carney more? What makes you think that the polling is accurate?

Do you really think that undecideds are saying: "Look! Carney is ditching failed LPOC policies and putting Poilievre's policies in place! What a great leader he is!!!!" Of course not.

If it wasn't for the polling, what evidence do you actually have that people like Carney more than Poilievre? Why should they? Why do you trust the polls that favour the Libs more than the polls that favour the CPC? Just remember, the legacy pollsters were all wrong in all of the recent elections....

Edited April 12 by WestCanMan

SpankyMcFarland · April 12

25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

C'mon Spanky.

Do you see Carney as being more charismatic than Poilievre? Is that supposed to be some kind of joke?

FYI no one likes a guy who's lying to them (aside from maybe Justin), and that's all that Carney has been doing lately.

His only edge in charisma is the fact that the CBC tells you that you shouldn't like Poilievre and that Carney is a-ok:

Carney lies like a sidewalk, bungles around between conflicts of interest and foreign interference fiascos, makes diplomatic blunders like "acknowledging the Israeli genocide against Gaza", sending Canadian jobs to the US, etc, and then CBC says: "The polls show us that everyone LOVES Mark Carney, and look over here!!!! Some random dude just donated to Poilievre's campaign!!!!! That is a big deal!!!!"

Do you think I'm wrong?

What evidence do you have that people even like Carney, aside from the polling from LPOC cronies like Nanos?

There's a thread about the relative character of Carney and Poilievre in this forum and there's not a single leftist here that will even try to make the case that Carney has more integrity than Poilievre. Not one.

If even the most hardcore, propaganda-pushing leftists here can't come up with a single defence of Carney's character, what makes you think that undecided voters really like Carney more? What makes you think that the polling is accurate?

Do you really think that undecideds are saying: "Look! Carney is ditching failed LPOC policies and putting Poilievre's policies in place! What a great leader he is!!!!" Of course not.

If it wasn't for the polling, what evidence do you actually have that people like Carney more than Poilievre? Why should they? Why do you trust the polls that favour the Libs more than the polls that favour the CPC? Just remember, the legacy pollsters were all wrong in all of the recent elections....

If what you say is true why isn’t Poilievre winning easily? Or maybe you believe he is?

We are not talking about the same thing here. I’m talking about likeability in particular and you are talking about perceived integrity. They are not the same. Every candidate needs to work on their weaknesses to maximize their appeal. Obviously Carney has many such vulnerabilities but Poilievre has had years to improve his appeal to female voters. I’m assuming you are male and older. Do you really think you are in the best position to judge how Poilievre comes across to female voters?

Polls have had some problems in recent years but to claim there’s a deliberate bias in them is paranoid. Poilievre does not claim that himself. How am I to judge these matters without polls? I can also rely on what I see. What you like about Poilievre - for example, his ability to to come out with sharp rejoinders - may not appeal to everybody. Are you even open to seeing these things in your candidate?

Edited April 12 by SpankyMcFarland

Army Guy · April 12

15 hours ago, Dave L said:

If the polls this time around are as accurate as the last election they are pretty much saying the Cons have failed again to present a suitable leader. That is key. A leader who the people like. It has nothing to do with how much money they are saying they will give you. I live in the west and I am sick and tired of hearing the whining because they didn't elect a Con. If you want to be properly and fully represented in Parliament you have to vote differently from time to time as they do in the rest of Canada. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is the definition of madness.

That could be possible, that PP is not the man everyone thought him to be,there is always next time.... but we are still only half way through this campaign, and no one is certain who will be elected...

The only option for you is to move.....

Your right if you want change you need to start with your voting habits, we have already seen 3 liberal terms and frankly nobody is impressed, and Carney is not going to change that, he has been advising the liberals for 4 years now, his MP's are the same MP's that have brought us this mess we have today....you somehow think that carney is going to change our countries fortune, you keep banging your head on the same rock, expecting a different result, your right it is madness, ....Conservatives are not the problem here it's liberals and gullible liberal voters....

Army Guy · April 12

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Look it up. He funded the CBC every year in office. A lie doesn't become the truth just because you keep repeating it.

That's not true, remember what the drunken liberal mp "Climate barbie" said, if you repeat it loud enough, often enough it will become true...

Goddess · April 13

13 hours ago, PIK said:

Unions , police forces are backing him. Will carneys carbon taxes on steel, is only going to make matters worse,with the tariffs. So why any steel worker would vote carney is hard to grasp. Its suicide for their industry.

More than 30 major business leaders are endorsing the Conservatives and urging Canadians to vote for real change on April 28. I can't recall another election where so many Canadian business representatives publicly endorsed a party.

All of these people have witnessed the economic devastation firsthand over the past 10 years.

CdnFox · April 13

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

More than 30 major business leaders are endorsing the Conservatives and urging Canadians to vote for real change on April 28. I can't recall another election where so many Canadian business representatives publicly endorsed a party.

All of these people have witnessed the economic devastation firsthand over the past 10 years.

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