Conservatives Have Taken the Lead in Federal Polls

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

If what you say is true why isn’t Poilievre winning easily? Or maybe you believe he is? 

I think that we would both agree that CBC and CTV have a dog in this fight, it's clear who that is, and the only weapon in their arsenal is "polling data". 

Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood for, he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media, he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his, all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of, the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008), his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis", he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with...  "But a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign". 

CBC has to start and end every story about the election with "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

When you look at the news on CBC, it's an awful lot like this:

1.  Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood" ❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

2.  he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

3.  he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his"... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

4.  all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

5.  the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008)" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

6. his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

7. he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

8. he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

 

They have one other story: "but a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign", and that also ends with ""❤️Thank God ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

 

 

If you take "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️" out of the CBC's repertoire, you get a completely different picture of what's going on in this election cycle. It's 100% bleak from the Carney camp aside from the "polling data".

Scan through your memory banks and piece together all of the pro-Carney evidence that's real... what have you got? Can you write it all down here? What has Carney done well aside from help companies scam the system? He worked from the inside of the system and helped outsiders scam us. He's literally been the inside guy on bank-job for the past ten years. If he has a claim to fame, that's it. 

Edited April 13, 2025 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I think that we would both agree that CBC and CTV have a dog in this fight, it's clear who that is, and the only weapon in their arsenal is "polling data". 

Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood for, he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media, he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his, all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of, the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008), his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis", he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with...  "But a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign". 

CBC has to start and end every story about the election with "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

When you look at the news on CBC, it's an awful lot like this:

1.  Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood" ❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

2.  he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

3.  he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his"... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

4.  all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

5.  the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008)" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

6. his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

7. he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

8. he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

 

They have one other story: "but a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign", and that also ends with ""❤️Thank God ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

 

 

If you take "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️" out of the CBC's repertoire, you get a completely different picture of what's going on in this election cycle. It's 100% bleak from the Carney camp aside from the "polling data".

Scan through your memory banks and piece together all of the pro-Carney evidence that's real... what have you got? Can you write it all down here? What has Carney done well aside from help companies scam the system? He worked from the inside of the system and helped outsiders scam us. He's literally been the inside guy on bank-job for the past ten years. If he has a claim to fame, that's it. 

Did you see the take the CBC had on Carney taking time off to hide right now?  They basically blamed Polievre and said "well his time of doesn't seem to be hurting him so your critisism is invalid because  "❤️❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

[WestCanMan]

CBC: "Carney was caught having sex with a 4 yr old chimpanzee ❤️BUT HE IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

All the Liberal sycophants: "All chimps want it! YAY CARNEY!"

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

CBC: "Carney was caught having sex with a 4 yr old chimpanzee ❤️BUT HE IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

All the Liberal sycophants: "All chimps want it! YAY CARNEY!"

Once you accept the concept that your feelings are facts, as the liberals do, it is extremely easy to convince yourself of virtually anything and then stand in righteous indignation pounding your fist and pointing your finger at those who don't agree.

I truly hope that the Eastern provinces will set aside their love of self delusion and corruption long enough to make the right choice here. It really is depressing to watch

[Dave L]

On 4/10/2025 at 3:20 PM, taxme said:

Hye MH, i am pretty sure that you would never vote for the conservative party. Why? Because they make a lot more common sense then one of your Marxist party's. It's those Marxist party's that have virtually destroyed this once great nation we call Canada. 

Let me ask you a question. What have the liberals ever done to try and make Canada great again, besides them trying to destroy Canada? No lefty liberal here can or won't tell me. Can you, MH? just asking. 

Canada has always been great and still is.  The Liberals are partially responsible for that by passing legislation for Health Care, CPP, UI, OAS, Pharmacare, Dental Care and the list just goes on and on.  Tell us the best legislation the Conservatives ever passed. When Mulroney was PM they did such a poor job they only got 3 seats when he was defeated.  I was one of the fools who voted for him, twice.  I await your response.

 

[Dave L]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

CBC: "Carney was caught having sex with a 4 yr old chimpanzee ❤️BUT HE IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

All the Liberal sycophants: "All chimps want it! YAY CARNEY!"

Something is seriously wrong with you.  You are doing the Conservative cause much harm with your rhetoric.  Freedom is the right to be wrong, not the right to do wrong.  That is a quote from a Conservative PM. If you do some homework, you may find out which one, and learn something.

 

Edited April 14, 2025 by Dave L

[Dave L]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Did you see the take the CBC had on Carney taking time off to hide right now?  They basically blamed Polievre and said "well his time of doesn't seem to be hurting him so your critisism is invalid because  "❤️❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

Carney is still the PM and has more important things to do on occasion,  the country didn't stop operating when the election was called.  PP wouldn't know how that feels, because he lacks any experience other than when he was a kid and had a paper route, his only job, outside of Politics.

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I think that we would both agree that CBC and CTV have a dog in this fight, it's clear who that is, and the only weapon in their arsenal is "polling data". 

Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood for, he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media, he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his, all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of, the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008), his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis", he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with...  "But a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign". 

CBC has to start and end every story about the election with "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

When you look at the news on CBC, it's an awful lot like this:

1.  Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood" ❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

2.  he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

3.  he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his"... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

4.  all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

5.  the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008)" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

6. his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

7. he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

8. he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

 

They have one other story: "but a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign", and that also ends with ""❤️Thank God ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

 

 

If you take "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️" out of the CBC's repertoire, you get a completely different picture of what's going on in this election cycle. It's 100% bleak from the Carney camp aside from the "polling data".

Scan through your memory banks and piece together all of the pro-Carney evidence that's real... what have you got? Can you write it all down here? What has Carney done well aside from help companies scam the system? He worked from the inside of the system and helped outsiders scam us. He's literally been the inside guy on bank-job for the past ten years. If he has a claim to fame, that's it. 

We will all know on the 28th of April.  Bye the way Westcanman what is PPs claim to fame that should make us vote for him and his minions.

 

Edited April 14, 2025 by Dave L
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[Dave L]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I think that we would both agree that CBC and CTV have a dog in this fight, it's clear who that is, and the only weapon in their arsenal is "polling data". 

Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood for, he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media, he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his, all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of, the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008), his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis", he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with...  "But a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign". 

CBC has to start and end every story about the election with "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

When you look at the news on CBC, it's an awful lot like this:

1.  Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood" ❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

2.  he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

3.  he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his"... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

4.  all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

5.  the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008)" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

6. his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

7. he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

8. he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

 

They have one other story: "but a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign", and that also ends with ""❤️Thank God ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

 

 

If you take "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️" out of the CBC's repertoire, you get a completely different picture of what's going on in this election cycle. It's 100% bleak from the Carney camp aside from the "polling data".

Scan through your memory banks and piece together all of the pro-Carney evidence that's real... what have you got? Can you write it all down here? What has Carney done well aside from help companies scam the system? He worked from the inside of the system and helped outsiders scam us. He's literally been the inside guy on bank-job for the past ten years. If he has a claim to fame, that's it. 

Blaming the CBC is just to justify the cutting of funds to the network.  Nothing more nothing less.

 

On 4/11/2025 at 9:44 PM, WestCanMan said:

He's dragging the forum down with his juvenile drivel. I have no problem with being rude to a guy like that.

Apparently you have the same moral compass as PP.

[Dave L]

On 4/12/2025 at 5:50 AM, Legato said:

Whose Doug Ford, does he drive a Chevy to the carnival for some Peking duck.

You can't be that ill informed.  What I want to know is who does PP think he is.

 

[Dave L]

On 4/12/2025 at 1:23 PM, Army Guy said:

That could be possible, that PP is not the man everyone thought him to be,there is always next time....  but we are still only half way through this campaign, and no one is certain who will be elected...

The only option for you is to move..... 

Your right if you want change you need to start with your voting habits, we have already seen 3 liberal terms and frankly nobody is impressed, and Carney is not going to change that, he has been advising the liberals for 4 years now, his MP's are the same MP's that have brought us this mess we have today....you somehow think that carney is going to change our countries fortune, you keep banging your head on the same rock, expecting a different result, your right it is madness, ....Conservatives are not the problem here it's liberals and gullible liberal voters....

The one thing Western Conservatives have in common, is the reluctance to take responsibility for their decisions.  When will they realize, that the vote is, as it is, because their pick for leaders, has been dismal.  The electorate from Ontario and Quebec, is not the reason the Conservatives are failing, to form a Government, it's the policies of the Conservatives.  Some how the majority of those in the west, think everyone else in the country is stupid if they don't vote as the west does.  Ontario and Quebec have voted differently in many elections,  You can not say that for the brainwashed in Alberta and Saskatchewan.  Without representation it means, you have little or no say in what goes on, that is realism in action.  Before you go yakking off, I live in Saskatchewan.  I have voted for different parties in previous elections.  I don't have blinders on.  Make a decision for yourself, rather than being part a western herd mentality.  That this needs to be explained is sad in it's self.

Edited April 14, 2025 by Dave L

[Legato]

9 hours ago, Dave L said:

You can't be that ill informed.  What I want to know is who does PP think he is.

 

Woooosh!

[Legato]

10 hours ago, Dave L said:

Carney is still the PM and has more important things to do on occasion,  the country didn't stop operating when the election was called. 

 

Who was running Canada between Jan and March, some character out of Spitting Image?

Carney failed at banking, so now he wants to be a Prime Minister which he's already failed at.

Edited April 14, 2025 by Legato

[Legato]

9 hours ago, Dave L said:

That this needs to be explained is sad in it's self.

You should sack the guy who explained it to you.

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, Dave L said:

Something is seriously wrong with you.  

Something is seriously wrong with you. Our MSM is destroying our democracy and you give it two thumbs up. 

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You are doing the Conservative cause much harm with your rhetoric. 

It might be too harsh for a cultist patsy like you to accept, but what I wrote there is a perfect example of how the MSM uses fake polling to give you your opinion. 

They have no choice but briefly mention Carney's lies and scandals, but they just add that one little sentence at the end of every story to make their sheeple think it's not a big deal.

Consider the following stories:

1. After The Globe and Mail wrote a story about a meeting between Mark Carney and the Jiangsu Commerce Council of Canada, Carney accused them of lying, saying "You can't believe everything you read in the Globe and Mail". Then pictures of him posing with their entire board came out, apparently catching Carney in a major lie. This came just days after his lie to all Canadians about his involvement in Brookfield's move to NYC. 
2. After the Globe and Mail wrote about an alleged meeting between Mark Carney and the Jiangsu Commerce Council of Canada, Carney questioned the authenticity of their story, but he was surprised to find out that he had in fact met with them - "I just didn't know who they were", he said. Canadians seem to have believed him, as his lead in the polls widened overnight. 

In 1 they follow a factual story with another pertinent fact, to tell the whole story. In 2 they follow a factual story with fake polling data, to make the story go away.

 

Google "CTV News Carney JCCC", "CTV news Mark Carney met with the Jiangsu Commerce Council of Canada", "CBC News Carney JCCC", and "CBC news Mark Carney Jiangsu Commerce Council of Canada" and see what you find... 

How does this search - "CTV news Mark Carney met with the Jiangsu Commerce Council of Canada" - generate these results:

Doing a google search for a story about Mark Carney's meeting with basic Chinese agents and then lying about it generates THREE FLUFF PIECES about Carney from CTV, ZERO articles from CTV about the actual topic at hand, and 3 on-point links from Reddit, "national Observer" and The Globe and Mail. 

The next time someone asks you why Canadians are abandoning legacy media in favour of podcasters and other online sources, just remember what you found in this google search. FYI CTV's goal is not to inform you. Nor is CBC's. Their goal is to control what information you get and present it all to you in order to mould your opinions. Their version of "control" includes key omissions and the over-representation of liars (like Fauci) that they want you to believe.

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, Dave L said:

Carney is still the PM and has more important things to do on occasion,  the country didn't stop operating when the election was called. 

Stop making excuses for him, Dave.

He's only in hiding because he's getting caught in serious lies and casual misstatements at a calamitous pace right now.

This is the part where his handlers took him aside to say "for God's sake man, when you're on the stand and they ask you about these things, just start the next sentence with "I was raised in a middle-class neighbourhood where people cared about their lawns...", your sheeple love that sh1t. Ramble on for ten minutes so that the fake media can edit your bloviation to make the answer sound ok. NEVER give succinct answers that they can't manipulate for you. Just take some Gravol to calm your gag reflex and then watch an hour of Trudeau replies... He never answers any of the questions that he is given, he just uses every question as an opportunity to unload one of his elevator speeches, regardless of how off-topic they are."

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PP wouldn't know how that feels, because he lacks any experience other than when he was a kid and had a paper route, his only job, outside of Politics.

He has been the leader of the opposition for years. He has been in government for years.

You must have hated having a substitute drama teacher as PM....

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We will all know on the 28th of April.  Bye the way Westcanman what is PPs claim to fame that should make us vote for him and his minions.

Watch him speak, Dave. Listen to him. Listen to his ideas. Look at what 9 years of LPOC gov't got us.

You're too young to remember a time when the homeless weren't flooding the downtown core, and spilling out into the outlying communities. 

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, Dave L said:

Blaming the CBC is just to justify the cutting of funds to the network.  Nothing more nothing less.

When I tell you things like that, it's not just for your benefit, Dave. It's just to help people understand what's actually going on. 

Of course that type information will just bounce off of the iron-dome-confirmation-bias of diehard cultists like yourself, but reasonable people will consider it, and see the truth in it.  

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Apparently you have the same moral compass as PP.

Thank you.

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, Dave L said:

Carney is still the PM and has more important things to do on occasion, 

 

Absolute unmitigated bullshit. He's not doing anything of any value right now, when was the last time you saw or even heard of a prime minister pausing a campaign to go deal with emergencies? Never mind twice. There's absolutely nothing going on right now that requires any special attention that hasn't already been addressed.

If you have to lie that badly to try and cover for your guy then you need to think about whether or not you're backing the right guy.

And I love that you think that there's more important things for our leader to do then democracy. Tells us about everything we need to know about liberals

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the country didn't stop operating when the election was called.  PP wouldn't know how that feels, because he lacks any experience other than when he was a kid and had a paper route, his only job, outside of Politics.

Oh absolutely, 30 years of actual work doing the actual job of running the government would never give him any indication as to what was involved with running the government 🙄🙄

Just like you would never want your surgeon to have 30 years of experience, you'd have wanted him to be a plumber before he took up medicine 5 minutes ago.

The Americans chose someone with lots of business experience and limited political experience, how's that working out?

 

Hey. Kid. This is the 45th time canada has done an election. They have all kinds of systems in place to keep the gov't running while this is going on. We never have to 'pause" to "run" the gov't.  

What a dishonest liar you are. 

 

[WestCanMan]

29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He's not doing anything of any value right now,

Be honest: who axed the tax? 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Be honest: who axed the tax? 

Nobody. All carney did was a shell game to move it out of sight so it wouldn't upset Canadians as much  

[CdnFox]

WOAH!  New mainstreet polling

And they're not alone, abacus has the cpc taking the lead and they've been tracking a steady  upward trend, so they're not exactly outlier polls. 

 

 

[PIK]

Ford just list my vote in the next election. Nothing but a liberal lover now.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, PIK said:

Ford just list my vote in the next election. Nothing but a liberal lover now.

What's he doing now?

 

[Army Guy]

14 hours ago, Dave L said:

The one thing Western Conservatives have in common, is the reluctance to take responsibility for their decisions.  When will they realize, that the vote is, as it is, because their pick for leaders, has been dismal.  The electorate from Ontario and Quebec, is not the reason the Conservatives are failing, to form a Government, it's the policies of the Conservatives.  Some how the majority of those in the west, think everyone else in the country is stupid if they don't vote as the west does.  Ontario and Quebec have voted differently in many elections,  You can not say that for the brainwashed in Alberta and Saskatchewan.  Without representation it means, you have little or no say in what goes on, that is realism in action.  Before you go yakking off, I live in Saskatchewan.  I have voted for different parties in previous elections.  I don't have blinders on.  Make a decision for yourself, rather than being part a western herd mentality.  That this needs to be explained is sad in it's self.

I don't think i've heard of any conservative thats complaining that PP is not the man to get the job done, granted some have questioned the way the campaign is being run, but not that the conservatives have the wrong man for the job...i guess what i'm trying to say is your whole bit about conservatives need  to take responsibility for their decision is all but a moot point..Conservatives are not even talking about that point....except perhaps centrists like Michael and the left side of the house.

Not sure what policies your referring to, as the liberals have stolen more than half of them, and the other half are just more dreams that do not fit in to our reality...but do fit into brookefields wheelhouse...but that has become the liberals stick, using government to enrich themselves, a screw the country....

All conservatives not just the ones out west do question why anyone would vote Liberal after living through the last 9 years of their rien, which produced the worst PM in Canada's history, that ran pretty much ran every governmental department into the ground, it was their policies that have put us in this very place in history, broke,describes most of the liberal rien...now the part conservatives do not understand is why "they" meaning guys like you would continue to support them after all they have failed to get done in 9 years....Carney who has been coaching Justin for the last 4 years , and most of the MP are left over from Justins disappointing terms...How many times do you need to try broken parties before you change your direction ?  

Good for you, using your vote as you want, not sure what your looking for here,  Perhaps the forum can use a good for you department or something to show the rest of the forum your that guy..... but good for you.....Before your head explodes i did not vote in the last election because i did not like the choices...that were available.... But what i was sure of is the liberal government has not done this nation any good,and it has set it up for failure....and WHY anyone would expect them to get it right on the fourth term is a sucker for punishment...SO like you i have made my choice, now you can climb down for your white horse and stop educating anyone that thinks trying a fourth term is or will be the answer , because a average banker is at the helm... I'd rather take my chances on a new guy with new ideas that make sense...

[Dave L]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop making excuses for him, Dave.

He's only in hiding because he's getting caught in serious lies and casual misstatements at a calamitous pace right now.

This is the part where his handlers took him aside to say "for God's sake man, when you're on the stand and they ask you about these things, just start the next sentence with "I was raised in a middle-class neighbourhood where people cared about their lawns...", your sheeple love that sh1t. Ramble on for ten minutes so that the fake media can edit your bloviation to make the answer sound ok. NEVER give succinct answers that they can't manipulate for you. Just take some Gravol to calm your gag reflex and then watch an hour of Trudeau replies... He never answers any of the questions that he is given, he just uses every question as an opportunity to unload one of his elevator speeches, regardless of how off-topic they are."

He has been the leader of the opposition for years. He has been in government for years.

You must have hated having a substitute drama teacher as PM....

Watch him speak, Dave. Listen to him. Listen to his ideas. Look at what 9 years of LPOC gov't got us.

You're too young to remember a time when the homeless weren't flooding the downtown core, and spilling out into the outlying communities. 

I am 69 years old.  I first voted legally in a federal election in 1972 at the age of 17.  You don't know what you don't know.  Stop thinking you know everything, your last comment, proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you don't.  I have listened.  I have voted for every major party in the past and the last straw for me with Conservatives was the debacle known as Brian Mulroney who I voted for twice.  Every country in the world is having problems with homeless people.  It is not a left or right problem.  PP has nothing to address those concerns.  He doesn't care if another 16000 people in BC die as a result of closing down, safe drug sites.  They are the people who realize that they have a problem so PPs big plan is to make them fend for themselves.  If you lack empathy you should not run for the job of PM of Canada.  Again I ask you to tell us the best legislation the Conservatives have ever passed. If you can't, you have no credibility and people can see that by your senseless rhetoric..

Edited April 14, 2025 by Dave L
Correcting a grammar mistake.

[Dave L]

In a news conference in Vaughan, Ontario, Poilievre said he refuses to undergo the security clearance process because he views it as an “oath of secrecy” put forth by the Liberal Party.

How ridiculous is that.  The only truth is he must be hiding something.  Why would we elect someone who refuses this requirement.  Oh I almost forgot, he is hoping we don't notice and would try to use the notwithstanding clause.

Edited April 14, 2025 by Dave L
grammar