Thief, call the police! Media Bias & Election Fraud? Carney’s Rise Under Scrutiny

[Gaétan]

Mark Carney had more visibility than the other candidates, journalists and political commentators only talked about Marc Carney to the point that I only heard about Frank Bailis during the leaders' debate and I didn't know he was a candidate, but it is certain that when a candidate has more visibility than another or others he will automatically have more popular support, so he fraudulently usurped the Liberal throne and the position of Prime Minister because the media manipulated the leadership race, the police must investigate and put those responsible for the fraud in prison and remove him from his position.

Edited March 11 by Greg
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[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Mark Carney had more visibility than the other candidates, journalists and political commentators only talked about Marc Carney to the point that I only heard about Frank Bailis during the leaders' debate and I didn't know he was a candidate, but it is certain that when a candidate has more visibility than another or others he will automatically have more popular support, so he fraudulently usurped the Liberal throne and the position of Prime Minister because the media manipulated the leadership race, the police must investigate and put those responsible for the fraud in prison and remove him from his position.

Yes, it was a coronation rather than a leadership race. And? It was the same with Trudeau I'll remind you

[Gaétan]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yes, it was a coronation rather than a leadership race. And? 

And it wasn't fair and a fraud.

[500channelsurfer]

These leadership races are not like a general election, they are only open to party members. 

I would hope the Liberal members were aware of the candidates, as they should be following what is going on with the party they are a member of.

Nevertheless, these are often won by which candidate can sell the most party memberships leading up to the vote. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

And it wasn't fair and a fraud.

I don't think that"Fair "is the most important thing to the liberal party in general.

14 minutes ago, 500channelsurfer said:

These leadership races are not like a general election, they are only open to party members. 

I would hope the Liberal members were aware of the candidates, as they should be following what is going on with the party they are a member of.

Nevertheless, these are often won by which candidate can sell the most party memberships leading up to the vote. 

Yeah but with the liberals anybody can be a member. You don't have to be old enough to vote, you don't have to pay any money, you don't even have to be a Canadian or a Canadian citizen. So it's pretty much anybody

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I don't think that"Fair "is the most important thing to the liberal party in general.

Yeah but with the liberals anybody can be a member. You don't have to be old enough to vote, you don't have to pay any money, you don't even have to be a Canadian or a Canadian citizen. So it's pretty much anybody

You had to be a citizen or permanent resident who lived in Canada for 183 days in the last year and became a party member before Jan 27. Just looked it up.

[Aristides]

The Conservatives had the same rules and PP also won on a first ballot with 68% of the vote-

[ExFlyer]

8 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Mark Carney had more visibility than the other candidates, journalists and political commentators only talked about Marc Carney to the point that I only heard about Frank Bailis during the leaders' debate and I didn't know he was a candidate, but it is certain that when a candidate has more visibility than another or others he will automatically have more popular support, so he fraudulently usurped the Liberal throne and the position of Prime Minister because the media manipulated the leadership race, the police must investigate and put those responsible for the fraud in prison and remove him from his position.

I think that is your personal problem.

The 4 candidates have been in the news and in the public debate. Bailis was the only one that was not a sitting MP.

150,000 liberal members voted.

Who were PP's opposition? Nobody remembers them and probably never heard of them either. PP won by a large majority too.

[Gaétan]

6 hours ago, 500channelsurfer said:

These leadership races are not like a general election, they are only open to party members. 

I would hope the Liberal members were aware of the candidates, as they should be following what is going on with the party they are a member of.

Nevertheless, these are often won by which candidate can sell the most party memberships leading up to the vote. 

What you say is not what happens in practice, when the visibility of a candidate is disproportionate compared to the other candidates and favorable he will de facto win the election, so there has been fraud, these hypocrites denounce the elections in Russia while they have the same practices

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

What you say is not what happens in practice, when the visibility of a candidate is disproportionate compared to the other candidates and favorable he will de facto win the election, so there has been fraud, these hypocrites denounce the elections in Russia while they have the same practices

Some parties have more money than others going into an election and can advertise more. Supposedly the Conservatives have the most money right now so will it be fraud if they win the next election? The SCOTUS ruled that money equals speech and corporations are people in US election campaign financing. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

You had to be a citizen or permanent resident who lived in Canada for 183 days in the last year and became a party member before Jan 27. Just looked it up.

So in other words you don't have to even be a citizen and you just have to be over 14 years. So what I said was actually 100% correct.

And we both know nobody is going back to check how many days they've been in country.

You don't even have to pay a nickel. For that matter someone could sign you up for the party and just tell you to vote.  

There's no legitimacy to it at all. It is a million percent open for fraud or abuse. Carney wasn't chosen as the liberal leader, he was installed

 

 

[Gaétan]

15 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Some parties have more money than others going into an election and can advertise more. Supposedly the Conservatives have the most money right now so will it be fraud if they win the next election? The SCOTUS ruled that money equals speech and corporations are people in US election campaign financing. 

Mark Carney had more visibility in the media then there was fraud and his election unvalid. Are you saying that when the media talk about him all the time compared to others doesn't do nothing?

[ironstone]

Isn't is rather curious that 2/3 of Liberal members were disqualified from voting?

The mainstream media doesn't seem interested in this....oh right, it's the mainstream media.🙄

Edited March 12 by ironstone

[PIK]

On 3/11/2025 at 7:56 AM, Aristides said:

The Conservatives had the same rules and PP also won on a first ballot with 68% of the vote-

And more than twice the votes carney had. 

[Nefarious Banana]

Perhaps the CBC and other media recognized that Carney had the best chance of defeating the man that would de-fund them.  Thus, the anointment of Carney by the media.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, PIK said:

And more than twice the votes carney had. 

And the rules were not the same. You had to buy a membership to be a conservative. You couldn't just sign up a bunch of people, you would have had to pay for them all as well. Four times as many people were willing to put cold hard cash down to be a member and vote as they were to sign up for the liberals for free.

I know what the polls are saying right now, but I also know that twice as many people turned up for Poilievre's rallies than The coronation of Carney,  i know a lot of people had been sold on PP  for over a year now, and i know that  leadership bumps are flashes in the pan. 

If carney had gone literally from the convention into an election he might have been able to ride that and I honestly believed he was going to do that and have justin call an election before he'd even been installed. The fact that he wasn't smart enough to do that shows precisely that he's not a great campaigner.

It sounds like he's going to try and form government and have a cabinet and actually try to run the country a little bit before he calls an election and that is just going to make him look horrible.

[Gaétan]

The Canadian election is a fraud too, the media never talk about the Green Party or rarely the NDP so as not to have candidates from these parties elected but just the Conservatives and the Liberals and a particularity of these parties is that they are friends of tax havens

[taxme]

On 3/10/2025 at 8:47 PM, Gaétan said:

Mark Carney had more visibility than the other candidates, journalists and political commentators only talked about Marc Carney to the point that I only heard about Frank Bailis during the leaders' debate and I didn't know he was a candidate, but it is certain that when a candidate has more visibility than another or others he will automatically have more popular support, so he fraudulently usurped the Liberal throne and the position of Prime Minister because the media manipulated the leadership race, the police must investigate and put those responsible for the fraud in prison and remove him from his position.

Canadians have a lot to fear from this WEF globalist shill. Carney is an environ'mental' wacko, and a more pro carbon tax thief. Corney wants to flood Canada with millions of third world immigrants that Canadians cannot afford to absorb. Our medical and social services are going bankrupt thanks to the liberals wanting to bring in millions and millions of useless people who will do nothing to help make Canada great. 

Corney even moved his own business to the States after all this tariff nonsense started. Corney is not Canadian, he is a WEF globalist that believes in slavery and tyranny for Canadians. Just my opinion. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

The Canadian election is a fraud too, the media never talk about the Green Party or rarely the NDP so as not to have candidates from these parties elected but just the Conservatives and the Liberals and a particularity of these parties is that they are friends of tax havens

The NDP gets massive coverage. And a seat guaranteed at every debate. The green party might get ignored a little bit because there's really nothing to them but you can't possibly make that argument about the NDP

[Gaétan]

43 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The NDP gets massive coverage. And a seat guaranteed at every debate. The green party might get ignored a little bit because there's really nothing to them but you can't possibly make that argument about the NDP

The NDP coverage by medias is rare compared with the conservative and the liberal and this favor the friends of tax haven. Then the elections are a fraud and the prime minister must be put in prison.

Edited March 14 by Gaétan

[500channelsurfer]

The media tend to gravitate to the most likely winners when deciding who to cover the most. This is how the media operate, this gives them the better ratings. Naturally, this can be a self fulfilling prophecy in the extreme. Democracy is not perfect.

If a media firm decided to cover all the registered political parties equally, they would not be in business for long. See list of currently registered political parties, which usually increases close to elections: https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=pol&dir=par&document=index&lang=e

A leadership race and an election are two different things. A leadership race requires the additional step of registering with the party before voting, which at least makes for some push toward limiting voters to those who are supposedly vested with the party.

Is there some alternative way parties pick leaders that should be implemented?

[Gaétan]

28 minutes ago, 500channelsurfer said:

The media tend to gravitate to the most likely winners when deciding who to cover the most. This is how the media operate, this gives them the better ratings. Naturally, this can be a self fulfilling prophecy in the extreme. Democracy is not perfect.

If a media firm decided to cover all the registered political parties equally, they would not be in business for long. See list of currently registered political parties, which usually increases close to elections: https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=pol&dir=par&document=index&lang=e

A leadership race and an election are two different things. A leadership race requires the additional step of registering with the party before voting, which at least makes for some push toward limiting voters to those who are supposedly vested with the party.

Is there some alternative way parties pick leaders that should be implemented?

If the media covered all parties, they would be more popular, and the reason they don't is because they favour parties that help companies put their money in tax havens, like the Conservatives and the Liberals. It is a fraud.

Edited March 15 by Gaétan

[500channelsurfer]

Have you read the list of political parties? Animal Protection Party of Canada, Communist Party of Canada, Marijuana Party, Parti Rhinocéros Party. They should all get the same amount of coverage as the Liberals and the Conservatives?

Does Mark Carney favour movement of funds to tax havens more than the other Liberal contenders did?

Is there some alternative way parties pick leaders that should be implemented?

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, 500channelsurfer said:

Have you read the list of political parties? Animal Protection Party of Canada, Communist Party of Canada, Marijuana Party, Parti Rhinocéros Party. They should all get the same amount of coverage as the Liberals and the Conservatives?

Does Mark Carney favour movement of funds to tax havens more than the other Liberal contenders did?

Is there some alternative way parties pick leaders that should be implemented?

Well I think the obvious choice would be to switch from a first pass to post model to a "roll up the rim" model where everybody has to buy at least one tim Hortons coffee and when you roll up the rim it tells you if you are a member of parliament or the leader of a party at random

Lets see, whoooo it says "not in politics"!  I'm safe! How about you?  

Crap, mine says leader of the greens and prime minister.  Kill me now.