Moonbox Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: As long as "fit for office" is an issue. Okay. Does a world exist where both are unfit? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 1 hour ago, robosmith said: ^Right on cue, I KNEW you would defend Trump's DISASTROUS economic performance. I'll take Biden's best in the West economy any day. Enjoy your tariffs. LMAO If I'm not mistaken, the US tariffs on Canada are being rolled back and re-negotiated. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 15 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Okay. Does a world exist where both are unfit? A world certainly exists in which amateurs pretend to be experts on the capabilities of the POTUS and requirements of excelling at the job. Quote
robosmith Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 Just now, Nationalist said: If I'm not mistaken, the US tariffs on Canada are being rolled back and re-negotiated. And you don't see anything incompetent about such "leadership" LMAO I believe any CEO of a major US corporation would be put on leave and required to clear a psychological evaluation before reinstatement for such erratic behaviors. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 1 hour ago, robosmith said: And you don't see anything incompetent about such "leadership" LMAO I believe any CEO of a major US corporation would be put on leave and required to clear a psychological evaluation before reinstatement for such erratic behaviors. Do I care what you believe? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 33 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Do I care what you believe? You cared enough to ask ^this question, cause YOU DON'T KNOW. LMAO You obviously have no idea whether a CEO of a major US corporation would be subject to psychological evaluation for such erratic behavior. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 3 hours ago, robosmith said: You cared enough to ask ^this question, cause YOU DON'T KNOW. LMAO You obviously have no idea whether a CEO of a major US corporation would be subject to psychological evaluation for such erratic behavior. Ya bearly care...at least I don't block people... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 57 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya bearly care...at least I don't block people... "bearly" LMAO At least I can spell. And no one cares about your ignore list; cause you do plenty of blocking with your NONSENSE and BANKRUPT responses. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 18 hours ago, Boges said: We're entering into Mad King territory. Canada is standing up to Trump and he can't handle it. Nothing he's saying makes any sense. The billionaires that bankrolled his re-election couldn't have signed up for this. I'm confused as to why Trump's comments on recession would cause a market drop? Maybe because it signals he's willing to take on more short term pain to correct the trade situation? And is it true that Trump's chorus are quietening down now with the current situation? That puts me in an odd position: whether Trump is right or wrong, he believes that sacrifice is sometimes necessary for reform and I agree with that. But the "cut taxes constantly and regulations without thought because it always is beneficial" cult may actually be stronger than Trump? We're through the looking glass, Milton... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 On 3/10/2025 at 4:52 PM, robosmith said: AKA totally unfit for the office of POTUS. 🤮 No, THAT is unfit for the office of POTUS, and it's not even a discussion: Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 The Dow was up to 44.9 and now it's down to 41.2, a 9% loss. I'm really surprised to see Trump hang onto his war on Canadian manufacturing in the face of these losses. When this NA trade war ends the Dow will make all that ground back quickly. Investors respond sharply to strength when it's applied properly, like is happening with DOGE. 2 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 18 hours ago, Moonbox said: Okay. Does a world exist where both are unfit? Of course. I guess the question becomes, 'can anyone prove Trump is unfit for office?' Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonbox Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Of course. I guess the question becomes, 'can anyone prove Trump is unfit for office?' About as well as anyone could "prove" Biden was. The evidence, I would argue, is pretty compelling for both. Biden looked lost and barely aware of his surroundings. Trump looks deranged and unaware of his reality. One is senile. The other is batshit. That's the best that America could come up with over the last 12 years. Edited March 12 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 31 minutes ago, Moonbox said: About as well as anyone could "prove" Biden was. The evidence, I would argue, is pretty compelling for both. Biden looked lost and barely aware of his surroundings. Trump looks deranged and unaware of his reality. One is senile. The other is batshit. That's the best that America could come up with over the last 12 years. So on Brandon we agree. He is senile. On Trump I'm not so sure. Why are reciprocal tariffs batshit? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 22 hours ago, Hodad said: Biden inherited a broken economy from Trump. The damage was reversed and Biden handed Trump a robust economy--which Trump seems dead set on breaking in obvious ways. Trump did promise to reverse Biden's accomplishments. The MAGA cultists probably didn't realize that meant aggressively reversing the economic prosperity as well. You will never stop pushing this lie. Biden inherited an economy during a pandemic. Biden did not reverse any damage from Trump, he oversaw the slow recovery from a pandemic that he continued to pile trillions of spending on top of leading to prolonged inflation. Quote
robosmith Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: So on Brandon we agree. He is senile. On Trump I'm not so sure. Why are reciprocal tariffs batshit? Do you KNOW ANYTHING about the Great Depression or Smoot-Hawley, IGNORAMUS? Business hates uncertainty and Trump reeks of it with on again, off again tariffs which no one else running a business likes. Quote
Moonbox Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: On Trump I'm not so sure. Why are reciprocal tariffs batshit? Because they aren't? The first step in recognizing Trump's batshittery is that most of what comes out of his mouth is absolute balogna. Whether it's because he believes everything that comes into his muddled head, or he's just a compulsive liar is up to you, but he's full of shit 99% of the time. Much has been made by the Orange Blob about Canadian dairy tariffs, but are you aware that there is a zero-tariff maximum that the US is allowed to export to Canada under the USMCA (the best trade deal ever written in history...the one Trump negotiated), and that the this maximum is never reached? Those tariffs aren't paid by anyone. Reciprocal? Nonsense. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 On 3/11/2025 at 7:41 AM, Moonbox said: How long is this old rag of an argument going to last? Why don't you blame Obama while you're at it? Dude that was 3 months ago. Trump has been in since January 20th, that's it Quote
Moonbox Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Dude that was 3 months ago. Trump has been in since January 20th, that's it True enough, but the markets spooking, manufacturing outlooks plummeting and inflation going up since Trump took office are all messes of his own making, and have little to do with Biden. It'll be interesting to see how many Kool-Aid drinkers continue to blame Biden for torpedoing US federal finances with tax cuts for the wealthy (that never pay off) and trade-war recessions that don't bring the jobs back they pretend they will. Don't take my word for it though. Just wait and see. Short of an about-face and a reversal of policy on Trump's part, bad days are ahead for the USA. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 27 minutes ago, Moonbox said: True enough, but the markets spooking, manufacturing outlooks plummeting and inflation going up since Trump took office are all messes of his own making, and have little to do with Biden. It'll be interesting to see how many Kool-Aid drinkers continue to blame Biden for torpedoing US federal finances with tax cuts for the wealthy (that never pay off) and trade-war recessions that don't bring the jobs back they pretend they will. Don't take my word for it though. Just wait and see. Short of an about-face and a reversal of policy on Trump's part, bad days are ahead for the USA. Except... inflation isn't going up since Trump took office. It is down .2% in February from January. Seriously, do you even bother to care about the facts before you post the things you do? Also, the tax cuts and jobs act tax cuts were not for the wealthy, they were across the board rate decreases that impacted the vast majority of people with tax reductions... I mean, if they were paying any taxes before. I am not taking your word for these things, they are just not true and you have been called out before on the tax cuts for the wealthy line, so at this point it is just you being dishonest. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 5 hours ago, Moonbox said: About as well as anyone could "prove" Biden was. The evidence, I would argue, is pretty compelling for both. Biden looked lost and barely aware of his surroundings. Trump looks deranged and unaware of his reality. One is senile. The other is batshit. That's the best that America could come up with over the last 12 years. the senility one was obvious for all to see I think we can all agree to that. It was even obvious to the people at the time who were caring for him. The trump one is a lot harder to prove. You may disagree with the number of his decisions and actions, I certainly do disagree with how he's going about things in a number of his decisions as well. We can even point to a number of those decisions and say that they do not On the face of things appear to be part of an organized plan other than in the most general sense. That would make them bad decisions but not necessarily bat crap crazy or even unstable. He may genuinely believe that if he threatens instability for companies that are outside of America that they will move their organizations back to America. He would be wrong, but wrong is not the same as mentally deficient. At this point in time he appears lucid, he appears to be in command of his faculties, he doesn't seem overly forgetful or disoriented. I don't think you would have a hard time making a case that trump is behaving stupidly right now but I think you would have a very hard time saying that there's strong evidence of cognitive failure such that it would be disabling. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, User said: Except... inflation isn't going up since Trump took office. It is down .2% in February from January. In fairness it's more reasonable to compare inflation vs last year february rather than month to month like that as a general rule. You compare the rate to the same month the previous year, inflation is going to fluctuate during times of year anyway. And in that respect it's up 2.8 percent from last year i believe? So it's not unreasonable to say it went up. Having said that, it was expected to go higher than that so it's below expectations and it's a lower year over year increase than January was, and anyone claiming that trump is responsible for the february increase which started like 10 days after he showed up is not being reasonable. That's still a 'biden's economy' figure. So you're right but your're wrong but you're also right Realistically we're going to have to wait for a 3 months trend. What we don't want to see is monthly increases as well as a year over year increase for the first 3 months for example. It's kind of silly to be talking about february, you were right about that Edited March 12 by CdnFox Quote
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 2 hours ago, Moonbox said: Because they aren't? The first step in recognizing Trump's batshittery is that most of what comes out of his mouth is absolute balogna. Whether it's because he believes everything that comes into his muddled head, or he's just a compulsive liar is up to you, but he's full of shit 99% of the time. Much has been made by the Orange Blob about Canadian dairy tariffs, but are you aware that there is a zero-tariff maximum that the US is allowed to export to Canada under the USMCA (the best trade deal ever written in history...the one Trump negotiated), and that the this maximum is never reached? Those tariffs aren't paid by anyone. Reciprocal? Nonsense. Trump's fitness for office is debatable but only without preconceived biases on either side. I know the USMCA is there and Canada has previously won court cases concerning it and changes the US wanted to make. We will probably see the same in this instance I would think. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: In fairness it's more reasonable to compare inflation vs last year february rather than month to month like that as a general rule. You compare the rate to the same month the previous year, inflation is going to fluctuate during times of year anyway. And in that respect it's up 2.8 percent from last year i believe? So it's not unreasonable to say it went up. Having said that, it was expected to go higher than that so it's below expectations and it's a lower year over year increase than January was, and anyone claiming that trump is responsible for the february increase which started like 10 days after he showed up is not being reasonable. That's still a 'biden's economy' figure. So you're right but your're wrong but you're also right Realistically we're going to have to wait for a 3 months trend. What we don't want to see is monthly increases as well as a year over year increase for the first 3 months for example. It's kind of silly to be talking about february, you were right about that Its the rate of inflation... that is down .2 percent as a measurement of this time last year. I was not literally saying it was only down from January. Why would I? That is not how inflation is measured. That is the whole point of saying it is trending down. There is no February increase. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 4 hours ago, User said: Its the rate of inflation... that is down .2 percent as a measurement of this time last year. I was not literally saying it was only down from January. Why would I? That is not how inflation is measured. That is the whole point of saying it is trending down. There is no February increase. Yeah, looking back I misread the stats. I read year over year when it was actually yearly adjusted which is different. So you're right and I'm wrong. Enjoy, i don't make very many mistakes 1 Quote
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