August1991 Posted March 7 Report Posted March 7 1. Stop Fentanyl. 2. Stop illegal immigrants. If so, let's do this. ====== But maybe Trump has different ideas: 1. Why can't American airlines fly between Toronto and Calgary? 2. Why do RBC and TD have special position in Canada? (Why can't I bank with Schwabs, here or abroad.) 3. Why can't I use Verizon in Montreal? 4. Why does the SAQ have exclusive rights to wine? Heck, why the SAQ/LCBO state monopoly? 5. Why is good European cheese so costly in Canada? Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 (edited) On 3/7/2025 at 1:48 AM, August1991 said: 1. Stop Fentanyl. 2. Stop illegal immigrants. If so, let's do this. ====== But maybe Trump has different ideas: 1. Why can't American airlines fly between Toronto and Calgary? 2. Why do RBC and TD have special position in Canada? (Why can't I bank with Schwabs, here or abroad.) 3. Why can't I use Verizon in Montreal? 4. Why does the SAQ have exclusive rights to wine? Heck, why the SAQ/LCBO state monopoly? 5. Why is good European cheese so costly in Canada? I don't really picture Trump being all that concerned with no. 5. Edited March 8 by CouchPotato Quote
herbie Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 He is concerned about fentanyl & illegal immigrants. Concerned they'll discover he's lying though his teeth and they're coming from the USA into Canada. i wish they were smart enough to understand decimals and metric, and we could say ZERO POINT TWO percent of what came from Mexico instead of less than one percent. Reminds me of a lady in her thirties pulled an item off the shelf in my store and asked how much it cost. I pointed to the price sticker on it and told her ten dollars. She then asked hoe much that was with tax so I told her twelve percent more and walked away, ... thinking of the 7 year olds in the Chinese corner stores I grew up with that could figure that our, plus count you out correct change for your money in their head in three tenths of a second..... 2 Quote
August1991 Posted March 9 Author Report Posted March 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, CouchPotato said: I don't really picture Trump being all that concerned with no. 5. Trust me. Trump knows about this. He knows about Canadian import tariffs on American butter/cheese. Edited March 9 by August1991 Quote
Barquentine Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 Trump doesn't care about any of those things, apart from how they advance his personal power. Money, power, and glory are what he wants and he is incapable of caring about any damage he does to get them. If he can, he will try to remain in power (and there are ways of doing that). Better hope the Democrats can take back the house and senate in 2026. Quote
CouchPotato Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 14 hours ago, August1991 said: Trust me. Trump knows about this. He knows about Canadian import tariffs on American butter/cheese. Well, yeah, I could see that. But I don't see him ever thinking about good European cheese. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 10 Report Posted March 10 (edited) On 3/7/2025 at 2:18 AM, August1991 said: 1. Stop Fentanyl. 2. Stop illegal immigrants. If so, let's do this. ====== But maybe Trump has different ideas: 1. Why can't American airlines fly between Toronto and Calgary? 2. Why do RBC and TD have special position in Canada? (Why can't I bank with Schwabs, here or abroad.) 3. Why can't I use Verizon in Montreal? 4. Why does the SAQ have exclusive rights to wine? Heck, why the SAQ/LCBO state monopoly? 5. Why is good European cheese so costly in Canada? Our fentanyl ‘exports’ to the US are absolutely negligible as I’m sure Trump’s minions know full well if he doesn't. We couldn’t make them smaller in a democracy. The US simply doesn’t want an EU-style arrangement with a common market for goods, political integration and shared sovereignty. I’d like to see more competition in some areas, eg airlines and telecom, but we don’t need the added risk of US retail banks up here and we shouldn’t allow ours to go down there either. Remember what happened in 2008? Donald Trump could put that risk on steroids. On dairy products, as far as I know doesn’t the US already run a large trade surplus with us? Their industry is heavily subsidized and staffed by the same illegal workers Trump claims he wants to send home. Quote The US Department of Agriculture notes on its website that under the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, which preceded Trump’s USMCA, “almost all” US agricultural exports to Canada, and vice versa, faced no tariffs or quotas. The USMCA kept in place that zero-tariff, zero-quota trade while securing greater US access to the smattering of Canadian markets that are governed by supply management. And while Trump claimed in February that “they don’t take our agricultural product for the most part,” Canada is actually the world’s second-largest export market for US agricultural products as a whole, according to the US Department of Agriculture, purchasing about $28.4 billion worth in 2024. Canada is also the second-largest US export market for dairy, purchasing about $1.1 billion worth in 2024. That figure has grown steadily over the past decade, from about $625.5 million in 2015. https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/10/politics/trump-canada-dairy-tariffs-fact-check/index.html As for what Trump wants? Being on TV today seems to be the driving need. Beyond that he has some half-digested bonkers notions about economics and resource management he picked up somewhere along the line. Edited March 10 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
August1991 Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 On 3/9/2025 at 9:32 AM, Barquentine said: Trump doesn't care about any of those things .... Frankly, I think that Trump does. Why can't United fly from YUL to YYZ? And why can't I buy awful Vermont cheese in Provigo? Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 On 3/6/2025 at 9:48 PM, August1991 said: Stop Fentanyl. If you believe this, you’ll believe anything. 3 Quote
Aristides Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 2 hours ago, August1991 said: Frankly, I think that Trump does. Why can't United fly from YUL to YYZ? And why can't I buy awful Vermont cheese in Provigo? You can't fly Air Canada from JFK to MIA either. It's called cabotage. American cheese is shit. Their extra sharp cheddar barely qualifies as medium in Canada. Quote
August1991 Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 20 minutes ago, Aristides said: You can't fly Air Canada from JFK to MIA either. It's called cabotage. American cheese is shit. Their extra sharp cheddar barely qualifies as medium in Canada. Cabotage. Exactly. If I were a Cdn PM, I would negotiate. Quote
August1991 Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 1 minute ago, August1991 said: Cabotage. Exactly. If I were a Cdn PM, I would negotiate. === Cheese? I tend to agree. Vermont cheese is awful. I once bought 200 gr where one of their Pres died. Unedible. Quote
Aristides Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 22 minutes ago, August1991 said: Negotiate what? US carriers don't want foreign airlines flying their domestic routes. Quote
August1991 Posted March 13 Author Report Posted March 13 24 minutes ago, Aristides said: Negotiate what? US carriers don't want foreign airlines flying their domestic routes. Disagree. Air Canada and West Jet do not want anyone flying YUL YYZ. Landing rights, times? === Junkyard dogs. Quote
Aristides Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, August1991 said: Disagree. Air Canada and West Jet do not want anyone flying YUL YYZ. Landing rights, times? === Junkyard dogs. And American carriers don’t want foreign carriers flying their domestic routes. Except within the EU, no country allows foreign carriers to fly their domestic routes. A big reason Western Canada has a cruise industry is because of cabotage. Almost all cruise ships are not registered in the US so aren’t allowed to go directly between US ports and have to originate or stop in Canada on their way to Alaska. Edited March 13 by Aristides 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 On 3/8/2025 at 6:35 PM, herbie said: He is concerned about fentanyl & illegal immigrants. Not from canada he isn't. That's just an excuse to declare an 'emergency' so he doesn't need approval of the house or senate for his tariffs. 2 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 Dreadful businessman, skilled salesman, brilliant criminal. This is whom we have to deal with. He heard some nonsense about tariffs decades ago and has been given the opportunity to try out these absurd ideas on the world. What a gift for China. 2 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 Lutnick actually compared Canada to Ukraine. Which would make his country what? Quote Lutnick compared Canada to Ukraine Lutnick: Think about it. The biggest trading partner in the whole world that is vital to Canada’s existence says, “I’m unhappy,” and they respond negatively, you know why? Because for 20 years, 30 years, they’ve gotten away with it. It’s like Ukraine. They came in. You imagine coming into this country, sitting in the Oval Office, having received $300 billion in aid from U.S. and military and NATO and all the rest, and the first words out of your mouth aren’t thank you. Just say thank you. God knows, just say thank you. When the biggest client, the biggest trading partner, the most important counter-party you have, who really, really matters to you, the first thing you do is showing immeasurable respect. Say, “Thank you. I want to work it out with you. I want you to be happy.” https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/doug-ford-donald-trump-howard-lutnick-united-states-tariffs 2 Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 On 3/8/2025 at 9:58 PM, August1991 said: Trust me. Trump knows about this. He knows about Canadian import tariffs on American butter/cheese. US protects amd subsidies its dairy industry also. And it’s all permitted under USMCA. If he wants to renegotiate that agreement there’s a mechanism for doing so without launching a trade war. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: US protects amd subsidies its dairy industry also. And it’s all permitted under USMCA. If he wants to renegotiate that agreement there’s a mechanism for doing so without launching a trade war. He’s denouncing his own deal and he isn’t questioned on it. I’m often reminded these days of lines from Nothing But Flowers by Talking Heads: And as things fell apart Nobody paid much attention Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 Trump doesn’t seem so worried about illegal guns from the US pouring into Canada. Quote
August1991 Posted March 15 Author Report Posted March 15 10 hours ago, BeaverFever said: US protects amd subsidies its dairy industry also. And it’s all permitted under USMCA. If he wants to renegotiate that agreement there’s a mechanism for doing so without launching a trade war. Strongly disagree Quebec dairy guys are like Brooklyn mafia. Trump knows this; he wants a better world. Quote
August1991 Posted Friday at 05:47 AM Author Report Posted Friday at 05:47 AM (edited) Trump is not stupid. He wants a better world for Americans. What's his game? Edited Friday at 05:50 AM by August1991 Quote
herbie Posted Friday at 07:27 PM Report Posted Friday at 07:27 PM 13 hours ago, August1991 said: Trump is not stupid. He wants a better world for Americans. Your opinion has quickly become a minority one. 1 Quote
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