Now is the time to throw your support to help save Canada from the Liberals

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, PIK said:

That's the worse decision we can do. Carney is all about CC, and he expects us to pay for it all. I'm tired of these left wing grand ideas to save the world. Time to save Canada, only PP can do that. Carney doesn't have what it takes to play in the blood sport of politics.  He needs to sit as a MP and actually learn what's going on.

Canada is on a war footing against America seeking an alliance with Europe therein,

Stephen Harper would be perfect for that,

Pierre Poilievre, not so much,

if Canada is reaching out to Europe to jointly confront America; Marc Carney is the man for that job

Poilievre has no juice with the Americans nor the Europeans,

in a shuttle diplomacy engagement such as this, Carney has the juice,

Edited March 7 by Dougie93

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, PIK said:

 

And what is wrong with moving backwards from huge mistakes that has cost us alot. Good policy.

The liberals specifically and the left in general are one of the only groups of people on the planet that genuinely and heartfeltly believe that the failure of a policy or idea that they like is absolute proof that what we really need is more of it

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is on a war footing against America seeking an alliance with Europe therein,

Stephen Harper would be perfect for that,

Pierre Poilievre, not so much,

if Canada is reaching out to Europe to jointly confront America; Marc Carney is the man for that job

^^^^

There's no good "war stance" against the US. 

[PIK]

If Trump gave the order to invade, I think the military may feel different about that.

[taxme]

23 hours ago, herbie said:

We have a reason to get out and vote next time. And to make sure it's not for the Tories.

Why? What fears do you have if the conservative party wins the election? Are you afraid that all of your Marxist woke and broke liberal nonsense will be eliminated, and once again, common sense and logic will prevail and become the normal for a change? You have to be one big dumb arse hole to want to see the liberals back in power. Haven't you loser lefty ;liberals done enough damage to Canada already? 

I would like you to answer this question? What has the liberals done for Canada and Canadians in the past 9 years? Are you able to give me something? Hello. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

You have to be one big dumb arse hole to want to see the liberals back in power. 

They're actually cultists, 100%.

No matter how serious Trudeau's scandals are, how consequential his f-ups are, how badly he embarrasses Canada on the international stage, how many superpowers he starts fights with, or how blatant his hatemongering is, the cultists only see glorious perfection. 

Giving WE a sole-source contract for $900M, after they shower money on his mom as if she's working the pole again...? Ahhhh, so what. 

Creating the DPA law for SNC-Lavalin - the guys who got caught bribing a Liberal bureaucrat for the Jacques Cartier Bridge contract - and then firing JWR for not improperly using it for them...? Ahhh, she's just a disobedient little girl and she should be fired.

Calling Japan "China", twice, while talking to the Japanese PM...? Leftards just say: "They all kinda look the same, right?".

Inviting a Khalsitani terrorist to dinner with the Indian gov't? Ahhh, who cares? People make mistakes like that all the time. 

Calls out the Indian gov't for not meeting with peaceful protesters, then goes into hiding when a peaceful protest comes to Ottawa... The leftards say "Hey, hypocrisy is cool, bruh, chill out." 

They invite a Nazi to the HoC, give him a standing ovation...? "Anyone could do that." But they find out that a white supremacist donated $15 to a conservative candidate and it means that the guy is a racist 🤣

Trudeau runs a show called "OH LOOK! 215 CHILDREN IN A MASS-GRAVE!  CANADIANS ARE GENOCIDAL MONSTERS!" for over a year, and then it turns out to be tree roots. They forgive him, and think nothing of it. Ironically his own dad funded those schools as PM, but somehow Trudeau is Holy and regular Canadians who never went within 1 mile of a Rez school are somehow guilty as sin...

He ignores anti-Semitic hate rallies that happen out in the open, on Ottawa streets, and then when a muslim girl pretends that a Chinese man cut her hijab he instantly flies off the handle with a diatribe about white nationalists, then finds out she made it all up as a hate crime of her own, so he doubles down on his anti-cracker screed. Leftards think it's awesome that he took advantage of that opportunity to denigrate white people. 

I could go on and on, I think everyone here knows that by now 😂, but the point is that leftards are actually f'ing cultists, because they only see what CBC tells them to see, regardless what their own eyes and ears are picking up. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, PIK said:

If Trump gave the order to invade, I think the military may feel different about that.

I think congress would feel different about it. He's not going to get away with going to war on his own.

People are already sitting up and starting to think this is getting out of hand. Admittedly I wish they were saying that because they felt it was wrong to mistreat their neighbor that way but for whatever reason they're starting to realize that this instability is not to their advantage and they're pushing back. Imagining what going to war with someone you share a border would be like.

It's one thing for Americans to support a war that's an ocean away but when anybody from Canada could slip into America past their forces and start sniping civilians and they look exactly the same as any American that's got to get them worried and I don't think they'd support it

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But it is a threat none the less. And a very serious one. It is a major backstab to Canada and a massive wake up call....  we can't screw around anymore it's time to grow up into a strong independent nation again and cut our ties and dependency with the threat to the south. 

Well you seem spot on message ever since Poilievre piped up about it.

Up until now it's just been a source of shits and giggles for you.

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well you seem spot on message ever since Poilievre piped up about it.

 

In what way. And what was my message before he piped up?

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Up until now it's just been a source of shits and giggles for you.

The tariffs? I've been serious about them since he first brought them up.

So to recap I was right again , Poilievre was right about his policies and then fact that we need to diversify and secure our own energy etc, poilievre is right that trump is behaving like a threat and you are..... bitter and resentful as a result?

Well that's pretty much how virtually all of these things go with you  

[Dougie93]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

There's no good "war stance" against the US. 

Canada is already there,

Trump has invoked the fear of American annexation deeply ingrained in the culture,

the Liberals are ahead of that curve, the Conservatives are still in denial,

but Canada is not Europe's problem, so it won't be easy for Canada to drag them into the fight,

it's going to require shuttle diplomacy by a Prime Minister who has clout with the Europeans,

other than Trudeau, Carney is the only guy running who has that,

the Europeans view Poilievre as being Trump-lite, so he is not the one to send to London, Paris, nor Brussels

I wouldn't call an election right away if I was Carney, because Singh is not going to bring the Liberals down now,

Carney should just takeover from Trudeau and commence the recruiting of the Europeans right away,

starting with the UK, Canada needs to drag Keir Starmer into the fight,

the war is already in progress, and that is the will of the Canadian public writ large

might as well just lean into it,

[PIK]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is already there,

Trump has invoked the fear of American annexation deeply ingrained in the culture,

the Liberals are ahead of that curve, the Conservatives are still in denial,

but Canada is not Europe's problem, so it won't be easy for Canada to drag them into the fight,

it's going to require shuttle diplomacy by a Prime Minister who has clout with the Europeans,

other than Trudeau, Carney is the only guy running who has that,

the Europeans view Poilievre as being Trump-lite, so he is not the one to send to London, Paris, nor Brussels

I wouldn't call an election right away if I was Carney, because Singh is not going to bring the Liberals down now,

Carney should just takeover from Trudeau and commence the recruiting of the Europeans right away,

starting with the UK, Canada needs to drag Keir Starmer into the fight,

the war is already in progress, and that is the will of the Canadian public writ large

might as well just lean into it,

Who cares what the Europeans think of PP. Once they realize he is not what the MSM says, we can all get to work.  We need a Canadian at the helm, not a European wannabe. And i don't think the British were to happy with the mess Carney left behind. 

Edited March 8 by PIK

[Dougie93]

Just now, PIK said:

Who cares what the Europeans think of PP. Once they realize he is not what the MSM says, we can all get to work.  We need a Canadian at the helm, not a European wannabe.

well I am European, a Scots German to be exact,

Loyalist & Royalist,

I only fight for the British Crown,

thus whichever Prime Minister is most likely to enlist His Majesty The King, is who I will side with

so far, that's Carney, also a British Loyalist himself,

if the Conservatives could bring Stephen Harper back, then I would reconsider

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well I am European, a Scots German to be exact,

Loyalist & Royalist,

I only fight for the British Crown,

thus whichever Prime Minister is most likely to enlist His Majesty The King, is who I will side with

so far, that's Carney, also a British Loyalist himself,

if the Conservatives could bring Stephen Harper back, then I would reconsider

You're a loser who trades on stolen valor while mocking is better and not a single thing you have said so far in this entire forum since the day I got here has turned out to be accurate in the real world.

At least you're not trying to pass yourself off as a Canadian

[Dougie93]

14 hours ago, PIK said:

If Trump gave the order to invade, I think the military may feel different about that.

there is no need for America to invade,

since Canada is totally dependant upon the Sea Lines Of Communication,

thus all America would have to do is blockade the Canadian maritime approaches with the US Navy,

the Ship Submersible Nuclear Fast Attack Submarine is the arm of decision,

he who rules the waves rules the world

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

At least you're not trying to pass yourself off as a Canadian

Canada is the Post National State with no core identity, rendering "Canadian" a meaningless distinction,

those are the terms which Canada has imposed, I simply carry on being what I always was ; British North American

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is the Post National State with no core identity, rendering "Canadian" a meaningless distinction,

those are the terms which Canada has imposed, I simply carry on being what I always was ; British North American

Blah blah blah -  you could just type "i'm a loser" over and over and you'd still come across as smarter than you do now. 

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Blah blah blah -  you could just type "i'm a loser" over and over and you'd still come across as smarter than you do now. 

I'm not Canadian anymore;  thus the condemnation of Canadians is irrelevant to me,

I will simply adhere to my oath to the monarch and await orders from the British Crown as to what to do next

[PIK]

33 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is the Post National State with no core identity, rendering "Canadian" a meaningless distinction,

those are the terms which Canada has imposed, I simply carry on being what I always was ; British North American

You fell for the BS? 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, PIK said:

You fell for the BS? 

i simply took Canada at its word

[PIK]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

i simply took Canada at its word

No, you took Trudeau at his word.

[Barquentine]

15 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I will simply adhere to my oath to the monarch and await orders from the British Crown as to what to do next

Sound like a line from a 1942 British propaganda war film.

[Dougie93]

Just now, PIK said:

No, you took Trudeau at his word.

you can't get more Canadian than the Trudeau dynasty,

I've been hearing this from Canadians since the 1970's

while they were dismantling HM Canadian Armed Forces deliberately,

somewhere in that half century of Canada going ever further to the left,

I simply ceased to have anymore fealty to the public which voted for it,

I am only bound to my solemn oath to Elizabeth Windsor heirs & successors,

the House of Windsor is my fatherland, Canadian Confederation is a sub national jurisdiction therein

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Barquentine said:

Sound like a line from a 1942 British propaganda war film.

that's my kind of propaganda,

I was born under the British North America Act 1867

my Canada was British to the bone,

I've always been a Royal Canadian, never a Canadian Nationalist

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada is already there,

Trump has invoked the fear of American annexation deeply ingrained in the culture,

TBH, the countries are so economically and socially intertwined that becoming one single country makes sense.

We're not India and Pakistan, where crossing the border takes you from a civil society to a totalitarian, religiously violent sh1thole. We're culturally conjoined. The difference between Canada and America is less than the difference between Alabama and California.

We share our highest baseball league, basketball league, hockey league, the minor leagues of those sports... We even have leagues at the college level, high school level, and little league teams play against each other. The only thing we don't have is the NFL.

Our comedians, actors, singers, etc are indistinguishable from Americans, really. If no one told you that Jim Carrey, Ryan Reynolds, Eugene Levy, Bryan Adams, etc, etc weren't American you'd never know. 

At some point our border is just a nuisance and makes no sense. It's just Trump's approach that is wrong. It's a conversation that should start like: "Does this border really make economic and military sense when we're dealing with BRICS, etc?" It should start out as an idea that gets kicked around until parties on both sides of the border start bringing it up in their election platform, and citizens start voting along those lines.  Not: "I just decided to make your country our b1tch, you might wanna lube up."

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the Liberals are ahead of that curve,

The Liberals are stupid people, in general.

Even basic economic principles seem beyond their grasp, and they get so sucked in by the Greta Thunbergs and Anthony Faucis of the world that they tax, insult and restrict the freedoms of Canadians based on quackery and teen-dropout drama. 

I wouldn't trust a liberal to direct me to the washroom in a restaurant, let alone lead the country through trying times. Their covid fiasco was so utterly misinformed, stupid, chaotic, and authoritarian that it forever changed the way we think about our democracy and medical health system. We were a joke. Advanced civilizations will look back on covid in Canada and say: "OMG, I can't believe they were that stupid. Is it possible that we'd be that stupid too? 🤣😂. No, our elected leaders have to have a minimum grade-6 education."

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but Canada is not Europe's problem, so it won't be easy for Canada to drag them into the fight,

MY POINT EXACTLY!

No one in Europe or anywhere else is going to help us fight a war against America, and especially not with f'ing nukes.

Honestly, the only people we could recruit to help us fight against the US would be a bunch of f'ing terrorists, but the fact that Trudeau already brought so many of those guys in is probably why we're in this predicament in the first place. I can promise you that the LPOC's "We think that brining in 10,000 Palestinians will be great" is the kind of thing that makes Trump think "Those guys are so ret4rded that they make the bayous look like MIT". 

The fact that one of the top 4 Libs in our country even mouthed the words "Nukes to fight off America" is ENTIRELY DISQUALIFYING. If she wins the Liberal leadership race, we are absolutely, royally f'ed.

Trump can say "Now Canada is talking about using nukes against us." And he'd be correct. It's f'ing lunacy. The CBC should have laughed her off the stage, but they're so f'ing biased that they act like she's an adult, saying sensible things.

 

If PP said that I'd honestly switch and vote against them in less than a heartbeat, that's how dumb that was. 

I will even vote for the "Let's be America's b1tch party" if Freeland wins the LPOC leadership. 

Are members of the LPOC dumb enough to choose her as their leader? Of course. They'd vote for Peewee Herman if the CBC told them to. 

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it's going to require shuttle diplomacy by a Prime Minister who has clout with the Europeans,

other than Trudeau, Carney is the only guy running who has that,

 THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "EUROPE WILL HELP US IN A WAR AGAINST THE US."

OMFG JUST STOP. 

There's no such thing as "Europe will step up to the table with sanctions against the US just to help Canada in a trade war."  

If there's a war, the only smart thing to do is roll over. The US can drop more infantry in Ottawa in one day than we have MEMBERS of the Canadian armed forces. I'm including cooks and every other support trade. 

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the Europeans view Poilievre as being Trump-lite,

I don't give a F what anyone in Europe thinks about PP or Carney.  The LPOC is a bunch of Trudeau sheeple, period. Their only redeeming quality is that they're so stupid that they'd make our demise quicker. "NYAH, NYAH, Trump! We confiscated everyone's guns and gave them to the Palestinian refugees we just brought here. Now we have an army!"

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Carney should just takeover from Trudeau and commence the recruiting of the Europeans right away,

starting with the UK, Canada needs to drag Keir Starmer into the fight,

the war is already in progress, and that is the will of the Canadian public writ large

might as well just lean into it,

My head is about to explode. For the love of God, please put down the crack-pipe. 

Edited March 8 by WestCanMan

[Dougie93]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

TBH, the countries are so economically and socially intertwined that becoming one single country makes sense.

I already have American citizenship, so I can come & go as I please,

but Americans don't actually owe any fealty to their government, quite the opposite in fact,

it's entirely my prerogative as an American to choose to fight for the British Crown,

it's a grand old tradition actually, dating back to the First World War

my American grandfather served with the RCAF in the Second World War,

my American father chose to come to Canada because he was outraged by the Vietnam War,

I've always lived on both sides of the border, in Toronto & Los Angeles