User Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: But you see the problem, right? If we had our own exclusive monarch or head of state we would a) see an awful lot more of them and b) avoid having them welcome a current enemy of our state who wants to destroy Canada. It helps if you start with a valid premise. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: At the same time we wouldn't have anybody who could reach out and be a bridge. It would be no different than having our own prime minister which we already do. There is value in having an intermediary who is friendly with both sides and to whom both sides will listen. But I have to admit I am somewhat underwhelmed at Britain's apparent lack of support. Of course for all we know there may be furious activity in the background It’s embarrassing for everybody involved except Trump. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It’s embarrassing for everybody involved except Trump. Oh it's embarrassing for trump. He just doesn't understand that Edited March 14 by CdnFox Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
taxme Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 On 3/6/2025 at 6:10 AM, Radiorum said: Actor Jeff Douglas has re-envisioned hic iconic video "I am Canadian" (released in 2000) as "We are Canadian" with current politics in mind. here's the original from 2000 I once heard way back in 2000 that this Douglas guy was an American and he did the video in Canada or America. Hey, we never know, eh? 🤔 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted March 14 Author Report Posted March 14 14 hours ago, User said: You don't get to talk about being attacked or arrogance when you and others are constantly down in the American side of the forum doing the same. That is exactly why I am up here. You deserve every bit of the criticism I am dishing out here. I have no problem with the American people, and I believe I speak for many Canadians. The problem is Trumpism, and how it is changing the US from a nation that cares to a threatening bully that has a grip on the consciousness of many American people, gained by false and harmful stories. The mass delusion currently gripping the US is a grave matter of concern not only for the US but for the entire world. 1 Quote
User Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 7 hours ago, Radiorum said: I have no problem with the American people, and I believe I speak for many Canadians. The problem is Trumpism, and how it is changing the US from a nation that cares to a threatening bully that has a grip on the consciousness of many American people, gained by false and harmful stories. The mass delusion currently gripping the US is a grave matter of concern not only for the US but for the entire world. Nah. Many of you were just itching for a fight as your leaders vindictively retaliate above and beyond any matching tariffs and with their vile rhetoric. Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 (edited) 17 minutes ago, User said: Nah. Many of you were just itching for a fight . . . exactly, Trump has simply given Canadians licence to rail against America orgiastically meanwhile, just weeks ago, Canadians were burning the Canadian flag while condemning Canada as being "Genocidal White Supremacy" fear, loathing & resentment of America is what passes for "patriotism" in Canada, Edited March 14 by Dougie93 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 8 hours ago, User said: Nah. Many of you were just itching for a fight as your leaders vindictively retaliate above and beyond any matching tariffs and with their vile rhetoric. Don't be a child. Trump pick this fight and he's picking it around the world at any retaliation is entirely justified. Trump has chosen to break the very trade agreement that he himself negotiated and called the greatest agreement ever in his last term with us. I didn't say a lot of good things about trump but not this. He picked a fight and we are never going back to the relationship we used to have with America, and America will suffer and be less as a result. This was one thing he got completely wrong and it's going to have repercussions around the entire world. Every market in the world is going to be looking at how to cut us out and cut each other in. This will affect America militarily as well as economically. I don't know where he got the idea for a trade war, he certainly didn't run his election campaign on a trade war, and he's got some bad advice from somewhere but fortunately at this point in time the damage is relatively controllable. If he drives the states into a significant recession though I suspect he'll be gone Before the end of his term Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 9 hours ago, User said: Nah. Many of you were just itching for a fight as your leaders vindictively retaliate above and beyond any matching tariffs and with their vile rhetoric. Well you really can't blame them, your President has said he is going to take over canada via economic means...he said it enough times that people now believe that is his main objective....That and the rhetoric used for these tariffs has everyone confused, is it for poor border security, drugs etc, or is it because of Canadian tariffs on US goods....I mean he did sign off on that trade deal on his first term, at the time he said it was the best deal of the century... Lets also remember US has the same amount of tariffs on Canadian goods written into that trade agreement... People here feel threatened to the point you can smell the fear...and uncertainty...i mean what would you do if the largest military power in the world threaten to annex you economically...A good majority of Canadians don't want to be annexed, and a good number of Americans don't want to annex Canada, way to many liberals ( extreme lefties)here, that in itself would make it infeasible...Now if you agreed to ship them off to some island nation like greenland, i'd help load them up, but we both know that's not going to happen... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Don't be a child. Trump pick this fight and he's picking it around the world at any retaliation is entirely justified. Trump has chosen to break the very trade agreement that he himself negotiated and called the greatest agreement ever in his last term with us. I didn't say a lot of good things about trump but not this. He picked a fight and we are never going back to the relationship we used to have with America, and America will suffer and be less as a result. This was one thing he got completely wrong and it's going to have repercussions around the entire world. Every market in the world is going to be looking at how to cut us out and cut each other in. This will affect America militarily as well as economically. I don't know where he got the idea for a trade war, he certainly didn't run his election campaign on a trade war, and he's got some bad advice from somewhere but fortunately at this point in time the damage is relatively controllable. If he drives the states into a significant recession though I suspect he'll be gone Before the end of his term Do you think a deep recession could reset prices, like lumber, food, housing, etc etc.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 14 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Do you think a deep recession could reset prices, like lumber, food, housing, etc etc.... It can vary but the tariff situation complicates that a great deal. tariffs are by their very nature inflationary for several reasons. So what we may see is stagflation where people's income and earning power drops while prices still have slight upwards inflation. The hope would be that in the end all the tariffs are removed and then prices would remain stable while incomes increased again, so eventually buying power would be restored. But if you look at the stagflation of the 80's you never really saw prices correct from inflation (a little up and down mostly over fuel). This kind of recession can destroy a lot of wealth, but in the end the hope is that people can weather it and wealth is preserved and when the end comes the tariffs are removed and new trade agreements are in place and the money that's been sitting on the sideline afraid to invest comes back with a bit of a Vengeance and we get a strong bounce but not so strong that it drives inflation again. That's the hope anyway Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 On 3/14/2025 at 2:41 AM, Radiorum said: I have no problem with the American people, and I believe I speak for many Canadians. The problem is Trumpism, and how it is changing the US from a nation that cares to a threatening bully that has a grip on the consciousness of many American people, gained by false and harmful stories. The mass delusion currently gripping the US is a grave matter of concern not only for the US but for the entire world. I think we as a nation have provided all the ammunition that trump needed to make his points, weak border, really our whole security apparatus is weak, take a look at all our issues, out of control immigration, refugees, students, housing prices, inflation, weak dollar, weak economy, over all we are weak in the eyes of trump and we as a nation did that....all trump did was take advantage of that...That's what everyone is pissed at....what we as a nation should be doing is writing down all these faults that have come to light and work to fix them should be priority , not jetting off to see europe...but sitting down with trump and fixing all this, if he does fix that even i will vote for him...but some how i doubt that will ever happen... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I think we as a nation have provided all the ammunition that trump needed to make his points, weak border, really our whole security apparatus is weak, take a look at all our issues, out of control immigration, refugees, students, housing prices, inflation, weak dollar, weak economy, over all we are weak in the eyes of trump and we as a nation did that....all trump did was take advantage of that...That's what everyone is pissed at....what we as a nation should be doing is writing down all these faults that have come to light and work to fix them should be priority , not jetting off to see europe...but sitting down with trump and fixing all this, if he does fix that even i will vote for him...but some how i doubt that will ever happen... realistically, Canada is not going to do anything different, Canada will just hunker down and try to wait Trump out, it's easier just to weather a brutal recession, than it is to try to fix Canada's structural problems Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 On 3/6/2025 at 1:52 PM, CDN1 said: Yeah, whatever that's supposed to mean today. No one will recognize this country in 20 years. Immigration without assimilation is an invasion. Import the third world, become it. Diversity inevitably breeds conflict. The future of Canada is a low trust society, arranged child marriages, violent crime infested cities, regular Islamist attacks, Sharia law, and women in face coverings everywhere you look. You are new to the forum but you did speak of things I am very concerned too. Unfortunately most people here are not aware of the danger certain cultures pose to Western democracy and specifically Canada/ Lessons not learned from events in Europe, If you speak out then there are plenty of leftists who will call you a Nazi. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: I think we as a nation have provided all the ammunition that trump needed to make his points, weak border, really our whole security apparatus is weak, take a look at all our issues, out of control immigration, refugees, students, housing prices, inflation, weak dollar, weak economy, over all we are weak in the eyes of trump and we as a nation did that....all trump did was take advantage of that...That's what everyone is pissed at....what we as a nation should be doing is writing down all these faults that have come to light and work to fix them should be priority , not jetting off to see europe...but sitting down with trump and fixing all this, if he does fix that even i will vote for him...but some how i doubt that will ever happen... There's a lot of truth to that, but to be honest with you I think what really pisses people off is the whole Annex in Canada thing and is rudeness and disrespect. He could have taken advantage of everything else and he could have gotten the change he wanted without any of that. And the problem is the American people are supporting his behavior. He's going so far as to say that we are stealing from them based on a deal that he himself signed While it's quite true that we sowed the element of our own sorrow by our lacks and bad behavior especially over the last 10 years it still doesn't excuse how he's handled this. And if there is a lesson to take away from this it is Never Trust an American, their word is absolutely dirt 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Scott75 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 On 3/6/2025 at 8:10 AM, Radiorum said: Actor Jeff Douglas has re-envisioned hic iconic video "I am Canadian" (released in 2000) as "We are Canadian" with current politics in mind. here's the original from 2000 Funny post, good too 🙂 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) On 3/13/2025 at 9:01 PM, CdnFox said: At the same time we wouldn't have anybody who could reach out and be a bridge. It would be no different than having our own prime minister which we already do. It would be different. Imagine being in a national crisis where your country’s head of state is forbidden to say anything by a foreign government. That’s the humiliating predicament we find ourselves in. In many countries a ceremonial head of state is supposed to be above politics, speaking for the entire nation and not just one party or constituency. It turns out we don’t have that. On 3/13/2025 at 9:01 PM, CdnFox said: There is value in having an intermediary who is friendly with both sides and to whom both sides will listen. But I have to admit I am somewhat underwhelmed at Britain's apparent lack of support. Of course for all we know there may be furious activity in the background Somewhat underwhelmed does not describe my feelings of betrayal when I listen to Starmer’s flattery of Trump. We have been abandoned by Britain. On 3/13/2025 at 9:03 PM, User said: It helps if you start with a valid premise. Could you explain that a little further. Edited March 16 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) 19 hours ago, Army Guy said: I think we as a nation have provided all the ammunition that trump needed to make his points, weak border, really our whole security apparatus is weak, take a look at all our issues, out of control immigration, refugees, students, housing prices, inflation, weak dollar, weak economy, over all we are weak in the eyes of trump and we as a nation did that....all trump did was take advantage of that...That's what everyone is pissed at....what we as a nation should be doing is writing down all these faults that have come to light and work to fix them should be priority , not jetting off to see europe...but sitting down with trump and fixing all this, if he does fix that even i will vote for him...but some how i doubt that will ever happen... I think that post illustrates a key Poilievre problem in this election. Some on the right are sympathetic to Trump. Edited March 16 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
ironstone Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 On 3/6/2025 at 9:10 AM, Radiorum said: Actor Jeff Douglas has re-envisioned hic iconic video "I am Canadian" (released in 2000) as "We are Canadian" with current politics in mind. here's the original from 2000 What does it even mean to be Canadian these days? Since 2015, Canada had a Prime Minister who publicly stated that we have no core values. Late last year, Justin Trudeau told the New York Times that Canada is becoming a new kind of country, not defined by our history or European national origins, but by a “pan-cultural heritage”. “There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,” Trudeau said, concluding that he sees Canada as “the first post-national state.” Even the New York Times called the suggestion “radical.” Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 On 3/13/2025 at 8:09 PM, taxme said: I once heard way back in 2000 that this Douglas guy was an American and he did the video in Canada or America. Hey, we never know, eh? 🤔 It was Jeff Daniels from the show "the Newsroom" that had the best speech ever...and he was a Republican in the tv show. He blows a lot of Trumps claims out of the water way back in 2015. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Dougie93 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 39 minutes ago, ironstone said: What does it even mean to be Canadian these days? Canadians are united by their fear, loathing & resentment of America, and by being priggish ; holier than thou Quote
User Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Could you explain that a little further. Yeah, you have your head of state and Trump is not your enemy of your state who wants to destroy Canada. Quote
herbie Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 27 minutes ago, User said: Trump is not your enemy of your state No he's #1 Enemy of Canada. The country, the one bigger and better than the USA. 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 28 minutes ago, User said: Yeah, you have your head of state and Trump is not your enemy of your state who wants to destroy Canada. 1. Our head of state has been silenced on this vital matter by a foreign head of government, a disgraceful situation that I predicted would occur one day - didn’t expect it so soon. 2. President Trump has repeatedly threatened our sovereignty. No reasonable person can deny that any more or pass it off as a joke. 1 1 Quote
User Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 8 minutes ago, herbie said: No he's #1 Enemy of Canada. The country, the one bigger and better than the USA. The #1 Enemy?! *GASP* Of course you would think that. Quote
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