CdnFox Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 2 hours ago, eyeball said: North Korea's contribution to Putin's efforts is like America's. Timely and appreciated. Ahhh yes, the old woke game of "i'm losing, change the topic!" 1 Quote
Popular Post Moonbox Posted March 4 Popular Post Report Posted March 4 16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. If not evidence, then what happened to convince you things had changed? I first started noticing the politicization of the CBC in the mid 2000's. At some point leading up to the Harper days, I remember it getting scolded by the Ombudsman for left-leaning bias. I can't find articles for it that far back, but it's been a slow-burn. It's not just leadership either. Over time, the leadership influences hiring and that culture ends up taking root top-down and bottom-up. You end up with a lack of diversity of viewpoints. In today's age, despite its bias, I'd still consider the CBC "moderate" compared to corporate shills like the Toronto Star or the National Post, but I'm not paying taxes to support the other two. I can just ignore them. When you see the former CEO battling it out in public with Pierre Poilievre, you get a clear perspective of its priorities. It's tough to maintain objectivity when you're being attacked, but as a publicly-funded broadcaster, your job is to show Canadians your value, not attack political opponents. 16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't watch CBC News. I find all TV news superficial anyway. Almost nobody does anymore. 4 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
eyeball Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 27 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Almost nobody does anymore. If almost nobody is watching where's the basis for all the moral panic over political propagandizing and the capacity to influence voters? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 15 hours ago, eyeball said: Being neutral about social justice is why the right wing is morally bankrupt. That is perhaps one of the stupidest statements ever said. And given your past post history that's quite an accomplishment Conservatives are the only moral people. They focus on results and giving opportunity. The left such as you focuses on virtue signaling and fake solutions that only appease your echo chamber. On top of that what we were talking about is the job of the CBC. And it is quite telling that you somehow believe that the CBC is a political entity and not a public broadcaster. When I say the CBC should be politically neutral you immediately think no, it should be political and that's why the CPC is wrong The CBC is not supposed to be a political organization. The CBC is supposed to be neutral and serve all Canadians regardless of their political stripe. it was never intended to be an activist agency And your failure to understand that is why it needs to be destroyed 2 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 37 minutes ago, eyeball said: If almost nobody is watching where's the basis for all the moral panic over political propagandizing and the capacity to influence voters? A few things: 1) Fewer people are watching, despite the budget increasing. 2) Traditional network TV news is in deep decline, substituted for online media. 3) This doesn't have much to do with taxpayers subsidizing a politicized public broadcaster. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Michael Hardner Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: I first started noticing the politicization of the CBC in the mid 2000's. At some point leading up to the Harper days, I remember it getting scolded by the Ombudsman for left-leaning bias. I can't find articles for it that far back, but it's been a slow-burn. It's not just leadership either. Over time, the leadership influences hiring and that culture ends up taking root top-down and bottom-up. You end up with a lack of diversity of viewpoints. In today's age, despite its bias, I'd still consider the CBC "moderate" compared to corporate shills like the Toronto Star or the National Post, but I'm not paying taxes to support the other two. I can just ignore them. When you see the former CEO battling it out in public with Pierre Poilievre, you get a clear perspective of its priorities. It's tough to maintain objectivity when you're being attacked, but as a publicly-funded broadcaster, your job is to show Canadians your value, not attack political opponents. Good answer. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WestCanMan Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: On top of that what we were talking about is the job of the CBC. And it is quite telling that you somehow believe that the CBC is a political entity and not a public broadcaster. When I say the CBC should be politically neutral you immediately think no, it should be political and that's why the CPC is wrong The CBC is not supposed to be a political organization. The CBC is supposed to be neutral and serve all Canadians regardless of their political stripe. it was never intended to be an activist agency I could get over various CBC news and political discussion programs all having somewhat of a slant. As long as humans are taking part in relaying information or providing coverage of important events, it's impossible for there to be 0.00% bias. CBC's bias has become overwhelming though, and all leaning way left. It's at the point of omitting information that hurts the liberal brand, downplaying their scandals, exaggerating or fabricating conservative scandals, hostility towards conservative politicians, glowing reviews of Liberals regardless of what happens, etc. Even if the Liberals were really good people, and the conservatives were really bad, the CBC would still be guilty of creating an atmosphere where Liberals can get away with too much and they have no real opposition. No one can be trusted with that much power. Liberals and Conservatives should all have a healthy fear of the media, and that is gone now for the LPOC. If PP wins, and has a massive success against Trump, and Canada comes out of this fiasco with a booming economy while Trump is apologizing profusely for months on end (obviously none of that is really possible, this trade war is going to hurt), I still want PP being held accountable every day, as long as he's PM. We will need him held in check, just like every other politician. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
herbie Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 Pages of nonsense from someone who doesn't even listen to or watch CBC, just repeats what his cronies have told him. Even now... get rid of CBC and let Fox tell us about trade wars, world news etc. he tells us. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 4 Author Report Posted March 4 (edited) 40 minutes ago, herbie said: Pages of nonsense from someone who doesn't even listen to or watch CBC, just repeats what his cronies have told him. Even now... get rid of CBC and let Fox tell us about trade wars, world news etc. he tells us. Unfortunately for us, Fox has a wide-open lane at telling the truth while CNN and CBC are off in the reeds. Did you really believe in "Mostly peaceful protests" herbie? Did you just kinda miss all the assaults, the cops that were ambushed and killed, the looting, the burning... the $2 billion in damages? Do you still feel like Joe Biden didn't know his kid was working at Burisma, or that Joe was just surprised to find out that his unilateral firing and subsequent appointing of Ukrainian prosecutors helped his son's boss get reacquainted with his millions in ill-gotten gains? Do you really think you don't have to worry about getting covid if you have a couple of jabs, and that they're safe? Do you really think it's no big deal that Fauci aided in the creation of a bat coronavirus that was transmissible among humans in the Wuhan lab, and then told the world that it came from the Wuhan wetmarket, a couple blocks away? Do you really still think that Trump colluded with Russians, despite the fact that the FBI couldn't find any evidence after 3+ years? Can you even admit that the FBI got caught, and criminally convicted, for committing at least one felony? Do you ever get sick of the fact that I can make fun of you for all the specific crap that you regurgitated from CNN and CBC, and all that you can do is make generic insults about Fox? "Ooh, they were wrong about the Dominion voting machines" 😂 CNN pretended that a teenager, still in high school, was a racist and showed a heavily edited video to all of America to slander him. Why the F would a nationally syndicated news network punch down on a teenager like that, herbie? Your sources are sh1t, herbie. And I don't just mean that they're liars: they're amoral. That's not to be mistaken for immoral either, where they have the brains to know how sh1tty they are. They actually think that they're doing the right thing while they're lying and slandering. I have more respect for snakes. Edited March 4 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 4 hours ago, Moonbox said: 1) Fewer people are watching, despite the budget increasing. That's a different issue related to transparency and lack thereof. That's a universal problem throughout the entire government. If that's the excuse for throwing babies out with their bathwater then I support dismantling things to a degree that would make Elon blush. 4 hours ago, Moonbox said: 2) Traditional network TV news is in deep decline, substituted for online media. Again I say, all the more reason to keep funding a public broadcaster. As the others die off CBC viewers should increase. 4 hours ago, Moonbox said: 3) This doesn't have much to do with taxpayers subsidizing a politicized public broadcaster. Every single penny the government spends is politicized. Are you seriously suggesting the news about the government or the information it puts out will be less politicized and more transparent and trustworthy when it's online? And again I ask what about the event of a national emergency? There's no utility at all in having a public broadcaster - your grievances towards it are just to strong to overcome with any rationale? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted March 5 Author Report Posted March 5 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Again I say, all the more reason to keep funding a public broadcaster. As the others die off CBC viewers should increase. OMG. Just like a spreading disease. SAVE ME FAUCI WAN! 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Moonbox Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 15 hours ago, eyeball said: Every single penny the government spends is politicized. Yes, but a publicly funded broadcaster delivers information. When the service itself is politicized, it's a different kind of argument. Cancer treatment, for example, doesn't care what your political leanings are and has no comment for it. 15 hours ago, eyeball said: Are you seriously suggesting the news about the government or the information it puts out will be less politicized and more transparent and trustworthy when it's online? No? I'm saying that cable/broadcast TV is dying, and quickly, so efforts are better spent focusing on where the audience has gone. 15 hours ago, eyeball said: And again I ask what about the event of a national emergency? There's no utility at all in having a public broadcaster - your grievances towards it are just to strong to overcome with any rationale? First, I don't think I've joined the calls to dismantle the CBC, have I? Second, lots of places don't have public broadcasters and they handle emergencies just fine. 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CDN1 Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 (edited) On 3/3/2025 at 11:56 AM, eyeball said: Drop social justice? Like I said the CBC made the relative merits of the concept of being Canadian obvious, and AFAIC social justice is very near the top of a list of these merits. Liberals are socially engineering the genocide of White Canadians and calling them Nazis for noticing while they do it. Radical demographic change is a far greater existential threat to the stability of the country than climate change. CBC has no interest in platforming an honest examination or debate on these issues. Where is the data on interracial violence and rape and those trends? I have no reason to believe this government & media wouldn't cover up racialized grooming/rape gangs like with what happened in the UK and across Europe now. Edited March 6 by CDN1 1 Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 CBC . . . top heavy/expensive, Liberal/left biased, and programming that's mostly uninteresting. It needs a major restructuring and a major cut-back in funding and personnel. Quote
Barquentine Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 1 hour ago, CDN1 said: AFAIC Damn, I need a GIA (Glossary of Initialisms and Acronyms). Quote
Barquentine Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 1 hour ago, CDN1 said: Liberals are socially engineering the genocide of White Canadians and calling them Nazis for noticing while they do it. Any proof? Quote
CDN1 Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Any proof? Just follow the census data, population & demographic projections over the next 25 years & beyond. Anti-White scapegoating and discrimination has been largely normalized throughout most of Canada's liberal institutions as they've radically accelerated mass immigration from third world incompatible cultures with reckless disregard for the downstream societal impacts. Edited March 6 by CDN1 Quote
PIK Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 On 3/4/2025 at 4:39 PM, herbie said: Pages of nonsense from someone who doesn't even listen to or watch CBC, just repeats what his cronies have told him. Even now... get rid of CBC and let Fox tell us about trade wars, world news etc. he tells us. How about the CBC just do it's job as a state broadcaster. Maybe get back into the NHL and CFL. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Barquentine Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 2 hours ago, CDN1 said: Anti-White scapegoating and discrimination has been largely normalized throughout most of Canada's liberal institutions as they've radically accelerated mass immigration from third world incompatible cultures with reckless disregard for the downstream societal impacts. You poor down-trodden white boy... Quote
CDN1 Posted March 6 Report Posted March 6 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Barquentine said: You poor down-trodden white boy... Exactly what I'm talking about. A typical response, and very short-sighted of your ilk. Denialism & gaslighting isn't going to accomplish much here. These issues will only grow worse moving forward. Ignore them at your own peril. Edited March 6 by CDN1 Quote
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